DevonianCruiser Posted February 24, 2020 #26 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Possibly a foolish move but I bought another 100 shares today after the price had dropped by about 6%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemorton Posted February 24, 2020 #27 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I was looking too, but thought I would wait a little longer. Also norwegian cruise might be a good 'bet'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted February 24, 2020 #28 Share Posted February 24, 2020 33 minutes ago, DevonianCruiser said: Possibly a foolish move but I bought another 100 shares today after the price had dropped by about 6%. You do realise that you can only receive OBC against one lot of 100 shares per cruise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonianCruiser Posted February 24, 2020 #29 Share Posted February 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: You do realise that you can only receive OBC against one lot of 100 shares per cruise? I do yes. Bought for the dividend and share bounce back potential but who knows eh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowTheScore Posted February 24, 2020 #30 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 1/31/2020 at 6:51 AM, Harry Peterson said: The outbreak of Coronavirus has hit an already weak Carnival share price: https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/c/carnival-plc-ordinary-usd1.66 For anyone considering buying, this could be an opportunity, though there's room obviously for further downward movement, depending on events. I sold all the shares I held at the recent high of £37 I would consider myself an idiot to buy any at this point. The COVID-19 situation is just going to get worse imho and the impact to ALL cruise lines not just Carnival will be nothing short of devastating imho. Both RCI and Carnival have already put out profit/earnings warnings. I personally believe the Carnival share will go a great deal lower as the year progresses. A great opportunity to invest again is sure to present itself later on provided the authorities change the restrictive and unattractive quarantining measures that are currently enforced for COVID-19. Until they do people will likely cancel their cruises in significant numbers (I'm sure they already are doing) and will give cruising a wide berth for the foreseeable. I will keep an eye on the situation but honestly I think the next 6 months to 12 months is going to be a huge indicator for the share price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted February 25, 2020 #31 Share Posted February 25, 2020 11 hours ago, DevonianCruiser said: I do yes. Bought for the dividend and share bounce back potential but who knows eh. I imagine they will bounce back eventually, unfortunately as Covid19 progresses, there is potential for further falls still to come. I might dust off my check book if they get below £20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monorail Orange Posted February 25, 2020 #32 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I've probably asked this before (so apologies for repeating myself), but what benefits do you get? I've seen OBC mentioned, is that awatrded on a percentage scale related to the number of shares or just a flat fee ? And... that question.. what's the entry level for this? Are we talking 1,00 shares or does it have to be more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted February 25, 2020 #33 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Monorail Orange said: I've probably asked this before (so apologies for repeating myself), but what benefits do you get? I've seen OBC mentioned, is that awatrded on a percentage scale related to the number of shares or just a flat fee ? And... that question.. what's the entry level for this? Are we talking 1,00 shares or does it have to be more? You need to buy 100 shares and you receive £150 for a min 13nt cruise, and £75 for I think a min 5nt cruise. You also get similar OBC for all other Carnival lines including Princess, HAL, Costa etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted February 25, 2020 #34 Share Posted February 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: You need to buy 100 shares and you receive £150 for a min 13nt cruise, and £75 for I think a min 5nt cruise. You also get similar OBC for all other Carnival lines including Princess, HAL, Costa etc. 7+ is £60.00 and below 7 is £30.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted February 25, 2020 #35 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, daiB said: 7+ is £60.00 and below 7 is £30.00. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monorail Orange Posted February 25, 2020 #36 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Thanks for the replies. You've all got me thinking now, those OBC figures aren better then I had though. I guess getting that cancels out any OBC you wold normally get (as a non-shareholder)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie11 Posted February 25, 2020 #37 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Link to full details from the P&O website https://ask.pocruises.com/help/PO/before-you-sail/more-info-share-holder You get shareholder OBC on top of any/everything else. Apply after you have paid the balance. It’s simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monorail Orange Posted February 25, 2020 #38 Share Posted February 25, 2020 That's great, thanks Eddie. I'll have to give it some consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianI Posted February 25, 2020 #39 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) I would also add that you get the benefit on any Carnival group. Details here. https://www.carnivalcorp.com/static-files/50351a91-4dc0-4f6b-bfec-684647e6129f Also note that you can only have one benefit per cabin. You get more on a dollar based ship such as Cunard and Princess where you get $250 for 14+ days You can also get military benefit on top if you qualify Brian Edited February 25, 2020 by BrianI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted February 25, 2020 Author #40 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Could be, of course, that Carnival will see their shareholders as a means of helping the huge cashflow problems they'll now be facing, with cancellations and postponed bookings. Increased shareholder OBC for new bookings perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funinhounslow Posted February 26, 2020 #41 Share Posted February 26, 2020 18 hours ago, daiB said: 7+ is £60.00 and below 7 is £30.00. So someone with the required 100 shares needs to take 10 one week (or longer) cruises to claw back recent share price losses in OBC...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianI Posted February 26, 2020 #42 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Statement from Carnival....... https://www.carnivalcorp.com/news-releases/news-release-details/carnival-corporation-plc-update-financial-impact-coronavirus Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowTheScore Posted February 26, 2020 #43 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) On 2/25/2020 at 10:10 AM, terrierjohn said: I imagine they will bounce back eventually, unfortunately as Covid19 progresses, there is potential for further falls still to come. I might dust off my check book if they get below £20. Totally agree. I think a lot of shares will take a real dive due to the virus. Anything travel related. If you are considering Carnival shares then I recommend you keep an eye on the declared "Short Positions". These are reverse investments, i.e the companies are generally betting that the share price will fall, not rise and it can be a good indicator of where the share price might go. All short positions by law must be declared to the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and the FCA maintain a daily and historical list of all such short positions against every company on the stock market. It is in the form of an Excel Spreadsheet and can be downloaded from the FCA website here: http://www.fca.org.uk/your-fca/short-positions-daily-update Remember this updates daily so keep an eye on it. There are 2 worksheets. The first are the "Current Disclosures". These are the latest positions declared (usually from yesterday). Search for Carnival in Column B to find any short positions. Today I can see there is one by Blackrock Investments. The second sheet is the historical list of all previous and currently open short positions. Again just search for Carnival (or any other share you are interested in) in Column B. If you already knew all of this then please forgive me for teaching you to suck eggs, otherwise I hope it is helpful to you. ATB Edited February 26, 2020 by KnowTheScore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie11 Posted February 27, 2020 #44 Share Posted February 27, 2020 £24.70 at the moment All travel and leisure stocks are falling - no surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted February 27, 2020 Author #45 Share Posted February 27, 2020 43 minutes ago, eddie11 said: £24.70 at the moment All travel and leisure stocks are falling - no surprise And probably still further falls to come. Just a question of timing, though, because at some point, perhaps quite soon, the virus will become commonplace, across the world, and will cease to have much impact on cruises or other holiday bookings. When that point is reached, the price will rise again - but timing is always impossible to get right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie11 Posted February 27, 2020 #46 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Agree At some point both stocks and cruises will become bargains. As you say, *simply* a matter of timing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monorail Orange Posted February 28, 2020 #47 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Sorry to ask probably obvious questions, but whats the best route to purchase shares? I've had a bit of a look on the t'interwebs and it seems a lot of sites come attached with monthly fees etc. - which is a going to quickly eat into a small investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianI Posted February 28, 2020 #48 Share Posted February 28, 2020 There are some companies that have no monthly fees, most on line. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennbank Posted February 28, 2020 #49 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Monorail Orange said: Sorry to ask probably obvious questions, but whats the best route to purchase shares? I've had a bit of a look on the t'interwebs and it seems a lot of sites come attached with monthly fees etc. - which is a going to quickly eat into a small investment. Here in the uk some members use https://www.hl.co.uk/shares Hargreaves Lansdown do not charge, all you do after full payment is made is email a pdf copy of the online statement with your account number blanked out to shareholderbenefits@carnivalukgroup.com with your name, cruise details and ship and they apply the benefit. and supply an updated cruise confirmation. Edited February 28, 2020 by Pennbank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake 26 Posted February 28, 2020 #50 Share Posted February 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, Monorail Orange said: Sorry to ask probably obvious questions, but whats the best route to purchase shares? I've had a bit of a look on the t'interwebs and it seems a lot of sites come attached with monthly fees etc. - which is a going to quickly eat into a small investment. I use Halifax share dealing, and you just pay a small transaction fee plus damp duty. You don't need a Halifax bank account. Same process as Hargreaves Lansdown to claim obc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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