jeanlyon Posted February 8, 2020 #76 Share Posted February 8, 2020 It has just started to get windy here in South Devon, although still brilliant sunshine. Think I'll take the dog out now. Looks like strong winds and rain around 4pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted February 8, 2020 #77 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) So she is in Zeebrugge now. Wonder when she leaves? Don't think I would want to be at sea for 2 nights in this Edited February 8, 2020 by jeanlyon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted February 8, 2020 #78 Share Posted February 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: It has just started to get windy here in South Devon, although still brilliant sunshine. Think I'll take the dog out now. Looks like strong winds and rain around 4pm It has started to blow a hoolie up here and went from brilliant sunshine an hour ago to being cast over now. Hope those onboard have as comfortable a journey as possible, perhaps the Captain can dodge the worst of the weather. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx buoy Posted February 8, 2020 #79 Share Posted February 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said: It has started to blow a hoolie up here and went from brilliant sunshine an hour ago to being cast over now. Hope those onboard have as comfortable a journey as possible, perhaps the Captain can dodge the worst of the weather. Wee bit fresh here as well F7 gustingF9. The actual shipping forecast for here F10 and up to F11 in Thames but I’m sure the tugs would’ve coped 🤦♂️😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowTheScore Posted February 8, 2020 #80 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) Yep looking pretty rough. Sea state becoming rough or very rough, occasionally high later. I would rather be in port than at sea ! Edited February 8, 2020 by KnowTheScore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted February 8, 2020 #81 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, KnowTheScore said: Yep looking pretty rough. Sea state becoming rough or very rough, occasionally high later. I would rather be in port than at sea ! I thought you were earlier extolling how well ships nowadays cope with rough sea conditions.😉 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemorton Posted February 8, 2020 #82 Share Posted February 8, 2020 For balance, the DFDS ferries to Amsterdam have also been cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowTheScore Posted February 8, 2020 #83 Share Posted February 8, 2020 3 hours ago, terrierjohn said: I thought you were earlier extolling how well ships nowadays cope with rough sea conditions.😉 Oh don't get me wrong, ships cruise through these kind of conditions all the time. As I said before I've been in at least 2 force 12 Hurricane cruises and plenty of force 9, 10 and 11s. I've been in huge swells and huge storms. These ships just push through them no problem. Yes, life on-board is absolute hell for quite a number of people when it happens but the ships sail in these conditions very frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee-ess Posted February 9, 2020 #84 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, KnowTheScore said: Oh don't get me wrong, ships cruise through these kind of conditions all the time. As I said before I've been in at least 2 force 12 Hurricane cruises and plenty of force 9, 10 and 11s. I've been in huge swells and huge storms. These ships just push through them no problem. Yes, life on-board is absolute hell for quite a number of people when it happens but the ships sail in these conditions very frequently. So, are you are saying that P&O did make the right call to cancel the port ? Edited February 9, 2020 by bee-ess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx buoy Posted February 9, 2020 #85 Share Posted February 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, bee-ess said: So, are you are saying that P&O did make the right call to cancel the port ? Changes his mind like the wind💨💨😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon01 Posted February 9, 2020 #86 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I'm not sure why Ventura is milling around in the North Sea with Force 11 winds imminent. It's not as though they were forced to do this, when they could have sailed back to the safety of Southampton on Saturday evening or stayed in Belgium. It's going to be very uncomfortable out there for the next two days. Potentially this could lead to bad press for P&O and if any equipment is damaged or fails, the ship could be in serious trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted February 9, 2020 #87 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, bee-ess said: So, are you are saying that P&O did make the right call to cancel the port ? Having experienced a few hair raising incidents while cruising with P&O, as I'm sure many others have, I have always had complete confidence in their decisions. If we have to miss a port or change an itinerary, fine, but I know I'll return safely to Southampton. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted February 9, 2020 #88 Share Posted February 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, jon01 said: I'm not sure why Ventura is milling around in the North Sea with Force 11 winds imminent. It's not as though they were forced to do this, when they could have sailed back to the safety of Southampton on Saturday evening or stayed in Belgium. It's going to be very uncomfortable out there for the next two days. Potentially this could lead to bad press for P&O and if any equipment is damaged or fails, the ship could be in serious trouble We were in a similar situation in November on Aurora, but I think the problem was that sometimes it's safer to avoid the Solent in certain conditions. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sogne Posted February 9, 2020 #89 Share Posted February 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, jon01 said: I'm not sure why Ventura is milling around in the North Sea with Force 11 winds imminent. It's not as though they were forced to do this, when they could have sailed back to the safety of Southampton on Saturday evening or stayed in Belgium. It's going to be very uncomfortable out there for the next two days. Potentially this could lead to bad press for P&O and if any equipment is damaged or fails, the ship could be in serious trouble firstly at sea may well be safer than risk of breaking mooring lines as happened to Azura in a confined space secondly she is running with the weather which relatively speaking is most likely better than ploughing into it thirdly I doubt if pilot boarding would be possible at the Nab and attempting to round Bramble Bank abeam the windi possibly not the best idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMichelle Posted February 9, 2020 Author #90 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Adawn47 said: We were in a similar situation in November on Aurora, but I think the problem was that sometimes it's safer to avoid the Solent in certain conditions. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can explain. You wouldn't want to be sailing down the Solent now, it's horrendous out there and was for most of the night... Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted February 9, 2020 #91 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I do know that during a hurricane a docked ship will leave port and anchor out at sea because it's safer. So if Ventura seems to be 'milling around ' maybe that's what's happening. I'm just guessing. Whatever she's doing will the safest option I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted February 9, 2020 #92 Share Posted February 9, 2020 It does seem odd to be where they are, given the shipping forecast. Not good for the poor passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalos Posted February 9, 2020 #93 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, jon01 said: I'm not sure why Ventura is milling around in the North Sea with Force 11 winds imminent. It's not as though they were forced to do this, when they could have sailed back to the safety of Southampton on Saturday evening or stayed in Belgium. It's going to be very uncomfortable out there for the next two days. Potentially this could lead to bad press for P&O and if any equipment is damaged or fails, the ship could be in serious trouble This brings back memories of our New Year cruise on the Ventura( DEC 2015). We had four days of going up and down the Channel/North Sea. The Queen Victoria managed to dock even at Amsterdam due to the azipod system she uses but hey, we got a cruise and enjoyed it despite the rough conditions. OUR cruise to nowhere which we were told by the Captain was the safe thing to do,once the wind drops the Ventura will spin round and head home to Southampton. This morning I'm watching a live feed of aircraft landing at Heathrow airport and the same could be said about the pilots who are landing in this storm .The ships /aircraft captain will do what it takes to keep you safe ,even if to you it may seem an odd decision at the time . Edited February 9, 2020 by kalos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted February 9, 2020 #94 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I wonder if there's someone aboard Ventura at the moment that can give us any information on their situation. The Captain will be keeping them up to date. It will save all this speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMichelle Posted February 9, 2020 Author #95 Share Posted February 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said: It does seem odd to be where they are, given the shipping forecast. Not good for the poor passengers. I'm sure the Captain knows best Harry.. Doesn't seem like any good spots, so I'm sure he has gone to the least of the bad. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMichelle Posted February 9, 2020 Author #96 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Adawn47 said: Given the current sea conditions I think I'd rather risk the ship than a lifeboat. Yeah.. No bar on a life boat... 😊 Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted February 9, 2020 #97 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, AndyMichelle said: Yeah.. No bar on a life boat... 😊 Andy And the cocktails will shake themselves 😉. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx buoy Posted February 9, 2020 #98 Share Posted February 9, 2020 That’s a weather buoy just to the East of their position SSW Force 9 gust 10 running before it at the moment will be fine enough. The winds going more Westerly later so when they turn to come back it’ll be a bit more lively but they’ll have more of a lee from the English coast till they get past Dover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sogne Posted February 9, 2020 #99 Share Posted February 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, AndyMichelle said: I'm sure the Captain knows best Harry.. Doesn't seem like any good spots, so I'm sure he has gone to the least of the bad. Andy the North Sea is my home patch both as a professional and leisure seaman with 25 years SAR there it is nasty certainly now but she is running with the weather which is far better than running into it where is all probability he would be hove to also much more sea room where he is rather for the eventful turn to reverse course than the constricted Dover Strait and channel where in a sw and w direction the sea heaps up between the Goodwins, Sandettie and other banks 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMichelle Posted February 9, 2020 Author #100 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, sogne said: the North Sea is my home patch both as a professional and leisure seaman with 25 years SAR there it is nasty certainly now but she is running with the weather which is far better than running into it where is all probability he would be hove to also much more sea room where he is rather for the eventful turn to reverse course than the constricted Dover Strait and channel where in a sw and w direction the sea heaps up between the Goodwins, Sandettie and other banks Thank you, nice to hear some proper facts. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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