ladybugpug Posted March 10, 2020 #51 Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, ColeThornton said: I would have ran the other direction. Panda's are Chinese. High risk bears. LMAO 🐼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted March 10, 2020 #52 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, elwood_98034 said: It Where I work, as fast as we put masks out people are stealing them to take home. It would seem prudent to not put out the masks so people can take as many as they want, but have central areas where they can be given a mask or two. Edited March 10, 2020 by NLH Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood_98034 Posted March 10, 2020 #53 Share Posted March 10, 2020 46 minutes ago, NLH Arizona said: It would seem prudent to not put out the masks so people can take as many as they want, but have central areas where they can be given a mask or two. Yes. Trust. That has gone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted March 10, 2020 Author #54 Share Posted March 10, 2020 10 hours ago, momofmab said: Because healthcare professionals are in close contact with potentially infected people. They are close to their faces and have a much higher chance of getting directly sneezed or coughed on than the "regular Joe" walking down the street. Save the masks for the people who really need them. so you are saying they work if in close contact to others, well thats different than many saying they dont work at all. which is it? they work for health care workers but no one else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julig22 Posted March 10, 2020 #55 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, seaman11 said: so you are saying they work if in close contact to others, well thats different than many saying they dont work at all. which is it? they work for health care workers but no one else? Health care workers aren't going to be fiddling with then and adjusting them and then touching their face with their hands that they would have contaminated by touching the mask. And they change them often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted March 10, 2020 Author #56 Share Posted March 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, julig22 said: Health care workers aren't going to be fiddling with then and adjusting them and then touching their face with their hands that they would have contaminated by touching the mask. And they change them often. I don't agree with you first off, but even still thats not the question, do they work or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare momofmab Posted March 10, 2020 #57 Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, seaman11 said: so you are saying they work if in close contact to others, well thats different than many saying they dont work at all. which is it? they work for health care workers but no one else? They help contain fluids from spraying out (which is why they are more effective in keeping those who are already sick from spraying their sickness into the breathing path of others) and they help protect healthcare workers who are often inches from the noses and mouths of the sick. Additionally, they provide some level of protection for those who are immunocompromised. Unless you fit into one of those catagories or if you plan on getting into overly close proximity with the noses and mouths of strangers on your cruise then I don't think the mask will benefit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood_98034 Posted March 10, 2020 #58 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, seaman11 said: I don't agree with you first off, but even still thats not the question, do they work or not? Not if you have facial hair, as you cannot get a seal. Otherwise, they work, under certain conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood_98034 Posted March 10, 2020 #59 Share Posted March 10, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8094933/How-one-man-spread-coronavirus-NINE-people-bus.html "People who wore masks on the bus were not infected, the study found." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted March 10, 2020 Author #60 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, momofmab said: They help contain fluids from spraying out (which is why they are more effective in keeping those who are already sick from spraying their sickness into the breathing path of others) and they help protect healthcare workers who are often inches from the noses and mouths of the sick. Additionally, they provide some level of protection for those who are immunocompromised. Unless you fit into one of those catagories or if you plan on getting into overly close proximity with the noses and mouths of strangers on your cruise then I don't think the mask will benefit you. well this is where i disagree, they do work ,but of course nothing is full proof. often times we are in close proximity to waiters and those in elevators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level six Posted March 10, 2020 #61 Share Posted March 10, 2020 They work for the most part. If you are talking directly about corona virus, I cannot say, as it has been stated by professionals that the virus is very small and can not be stopped by most masks. I agree with some other posts that masks need to be changed often and they must be put on correctly. But, if you can find masks at the store and want to wear them on the ship, go right ahead. Don't worry what others think. It might get a few strange looks, but it might also prevent you from getting sick.....which is more important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted March 10, 2020 Author #62 Share Posted March 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, elwood_98034 said: Not if you have facial hair, as you cannot get a seal. Otherwise, they work, under certain conditions. Yes, a surgical mask can help prevent the flu,” Sherif Mossad, MD, an infectious disease specialist at the Cleveland Clinic, tells Health. “Flu is carried in air droplets, so a mask would mechanically prevent the flu virus from reaching other people.” It would work both ways, says Dr. Mossad, preventing transmission of the flu virus to others and for keeping a mask-wearer from picking up an infection. https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/surgical-mask-flu-prevention for those saying its ineffective preventing catching a virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare momofmab Posted March 10, 2020 #63 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, seaman11 said: Yes, a surgical mask can help prevent the flu,” Sherif Mossad, MD, an infectious disease specialist at the Cleveland Clinic, tells Health. “Flu is carried in air droplets, so a mask would mechanically prevent the flu virus from reaching other people.” It would work both ways, says Dr. Mossad, preventing transmission of the flu virus to others and for keeping a mask-wearer from picking up an infection. https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/surgical-mask-flu-prevention for those saying its ineffective preventing catching a virus. Brilliant! You answered your own question. Bring a case of masks with you and wear them proudly! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisequeen4ever Posted March 10, 2020 #64 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Personally, I think wearing a mask is a prudent way to protect yourself. Sure it may not be perfect, but it’s gonna provide something protection at least. I don’t feel reassured by all of the harsh reactions to you, though. If someone wants to be able to still travel and wants to take some extra precautions to do so, it should be accepted and respected, not condemned. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted March 10, 2020 Author #65 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, momofmab said: Brilliant! You answered your own question. Bring a case of masks with you and wear them proudly! my question was never "do they work" it was would it be frowned upon, in which case many of you did answer that question, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood_98034 Posted March 10, 2020 #66 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Level six said: They work for the most part. If you are talking directly about corona virus, I cannot say, as it has been stated by professionals that the virus is very small and can not be stopped by most masks. I agree with some other posts that masks need to be changed often and they must be put on correctly. But, if you can find masks at the store and want to wear them on the ship, go right ahead. Don't worry what others think. It might get a few strange looks, but it might also prevent you from getting sick.....which is more important? Any one thing won't save you. You need to carry out a range of strategies so that you have a broad range of protection going on. For someone walking around their supermarket, or down the park, a mask is usually unnecessary. When I am at work I am wearing scrubs, gloves, safety goggles, and mask nearly 100% of the time. As I leave work my scrub top comes off, gets turned inside out, and gets rolled up to carry. Then I wash my hands and arms as I go out the door. When I walk in my front door, my scrub bottoms come off, get rolled inside out, and my shoes and coat have their own spot. Everything I took to work like keys or glasses stay in my 'work' jacket. Then I wash my hands. My scrubs go into my own laundry bag by the front door to be washed separately. Not becoming dead, and not causing someone else to become dead is what I get paid for, and we actually have secret watchers at work that will inform our managers if we don't follow protocol. Termination for non compliance is an option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level six Posted March 10, 2020 #67 Share Posted March 10, 2020 41 minutes ago, elwood_98034 said: Any one thing won't save you. You need to carry out a range of strategies so that you have a broad range of protection going on. For someone walking around their supermarket, or down the park, a mask is usually unnecessary. When I am at work I am wearing scrubs, gloves, safety goggles, and mask nearly 100% of the time. As I leave work my scrub top comes off, gets turned inside out, and gets rolled up to carry. Then I wash my hands and arms as I go out the door. When I walk in my front door, my scrub bottoms come off, get rolled inside out, and my shoes and coat have their own spot. Everything I took to work like keys or glasses stay in my 'work' jacket. Then I wash my hands. My scrubs go into my own laundry bag by the front door to be washed separately. Not becoming dead, and not causing someone else to become dead is what I get paid for, and we actually have secret watchers at work that will inform our managers if we don't follow protocol. Termination for non compliance is an option. Agree, I had the same type of job, but had to leave scrubs at work to be washed. Anyway, poster was asking about wearing a mask to help prevent getting sick and if it would be frowned upon on a cruise. My point was....wear the mask, don't worry what others think, not if it was OSHA standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooch47 Posted March 10, 2020 #68 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I'm a little confused by this. Our daughter-in-law was taking multiple rounds of very potent chemotherapy and her immune system was virtually destroyed. Her oncologist gave her masks to wear to prevent her coming down with anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladybugpug Posted March 10, 2020 #69 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, gooch47 said: I'm a little confused by this. Our daughter-in-law was taking multiple rounds of very potent chemotherapy and her immune system was virtually destroyed. Her oncologist gave her masks to wear to prevent her coming down with anything. All you have to do is google the hundreds of articles from the medical community that flat out says that wearing a mask is not a good defense to the conronavirus. A regular surgical mask does nothing and the N95 masks are likely impossible to come by and are not a realistic measure for cruising. This whole discussion is so silly. The thought of people sitting around the pool in an N95 mask is ridiculous. Anyone that concerned should cancel. Where is the enjoyment in the cruise wearing a mask and gloves? And if the staff onboard who handle the food, clean the room could be infected. So would you wear the mask in your room? Not eat? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level six Posted March 11, 2020 #70 Share Posted March 11, 2020 You can also google a picture of the passengers leaving the Grand Princess today and every single one of them has a mask on. Why? I am sure they didn't take them on board. I am sure the masks were given to them by the health professionals handling the outbreak to protect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted March 11, 2020 #71 Share Posted March 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Level six said: You can also google a picture of the passengers leaving the Grand Princess today and every single one of them has a mask on. Why? I am sure they didn't take them on board. I am sure the masks were given to them by the health professionals handling the outbreak to protect them. I believe that the masks were part of the supplies along with testing kits that were delivered by the Coast Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladybugpug Posted March 11, 2020 #72 Share Posted March 11, 2020 53 minutes ago, Level six said: You can also google a picture of the passengers leaving the Grand Princess today and every single one of them has a mask on. Why? I am sure they didn't take them on board. I am sure the masks were given to them by the health professionals handling the outbreak to protect them. Or to protect the public. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood_98034 Posted March 11, 2020 #73 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 hours ago, ladybugpug said: All you have to do is google the hundreds of articles from the medical community that flat out says that wearing a mask is not a good defense to the conronavirus. A regular surgical mask does nothing and the N95 masks are likely impossible to come by and are not a realistic measure for cruising. This whole discussion is so silly. The thought of people sitting around the pool in an N95 mask is ridiculous. Anyone that concerned should cancel. Where is the enjoyment in the cruise wearing a mask and gloves? And if the staff onboard who handle the food, clean the room could be infected. So would you wear the mask in your room? Not eat? I ordered 10 N95's off Amazon. Kimberly Clark brand, $59.95. Tuesday, March 10 10:09 PM Package arrived at a carrier facility San Bernardino Ca Distribution Center, US It has been said that the reason COVID-19 had no traction in Hong Kong is the government ordered everyone to wear a surgical mask when they were outside their home. I was walking around at work tonight, and nearly everyone was wearing a surgical mask. I had one of my personal N95's on, and was asked a number of times where I got it, because ours are rationed. I have no intention of becoming dead because some moron decided that it was a good idea to have a bat burrito, and then go out licking handrails and doorknobs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julig22 Posted March 11, 2020 #74 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, elwood_98034 said: I ordered 10 N95's off Amazon. Kimberly Clark brand, $59.95. Tuesday, March 10 10:09 PM Package arrived at a carrier facility San Bernardino Ca Distribution Center, US It has been said that the reason COVID-19 had no traction in Hong Kong is the government ordered everyone to wear a surgical mask when they were outside their home. I was walking around at work tonight, and nearly everyone was wearing a surgical mask. I had one of my personal N95's on, and was asked a number of times where I got it, because ours are rationed. I have no intention of becoming dead because some moron decided that it was a good idea to have a bat burrito, and then go out licking handrails and doorknobs. Here's a reality check - in October 2018, I bought a 15pk for $8.77. Bought them because I thought they might help with environmental allergies but never used them. Tore the house apart looking for them and I finally found them - so they will be with me on my cruise next week, just in case. The ones I bought are "currently unavailable" on Amazon. But I am not planning on wearing any type of mask unless it appears there is a problem. In my opinion, it is unknown if wearing a mask protects a person or keeps an infected person from spreading the virus - could be a little of both. But I do see where wearing a mask could send a false sense of security - so be careful out there! If I see you wearing a mask onboard, I will probably give you a wide berth just in case you are wearing it because you are ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2+2 Posted March 11, 2020 #75 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) OK, the mask does it's job and captures/filters out the virus droplets. So now let's throw it away in our cabins trash can and let the staff deal with it. See, without proper procedures, we are spinning circles. To answer your question. I hope passengers are not wearing mask. I would prefer that they stay home. Edited March 11, 2020 by 2+2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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