Zaandam and Rotterdam Situation (merged topics starting March 22, 2020)

[Copper10-8]

1 minute ago, Lois R said:

OMG....thanks.....thought I had lost my mind...….(maybe I have too LOL). I appreciate the reply.

 

No worries! A mind.............is a good thing! Don't lose that bad boy! 😉

[sansterre]

11 minutes ago, LMaxwell said:

 

Pages 42 and 43 address this; there is no need for a 2 week notice

reviewed both pages and only found this on #1065

" Apparently the Broward County commissioners are going to meet on Tuesday to discuss the options."

Is there something more?  Otherwise, it sounds like a workshop type of meeting.

[cdwise]

11 minutes ago, LMaxwell said:

17 minutes ago, sansterre said:

Yes, why not let the Zaandam dock and get those two critical passengers off?  

Do it NOW - STAT - ASAP.

 

I don't think the number is two <?> HAL may be working on getting the resources necessary to the pier to meet the number who need critical care. 

 

 

Latest figures have 10 critical with 2 of those on ventilators. 

[rjbean4]

2 minutes ago, mamaofami said:

 

This site says these Zuidy and Roterdaam are scheduled, not confirmed.

Sure you mean Zaandam.

 

Yeah the times have been saying scheduled. Not yet confirmed. Both ships are out off the cost too far at the moment to be able to see them on the SE cam. 

Edited April 2, 2020 by rjbean4

[summer slope]

If I was a fingernail chewer they would all be gone by now.

[Copper10-8]

2 minutes ago, LHT28 said:

Where was the Zaandam before  Buenos Aires embarkation?

 

2/22/2020	Sat	SAN ANTONIO (SANTIAGO)
2/23/2020	Sun	At Sea (South Pacific Ocean)
2/24/2020	Mon	Puerto Montt
2/25/2020	Tue	Puerto Chacabuco
2/26/2020	Wed	Scenic cruising Chilean Fjords
2/27/2020	Thu	Scenic cruising Sarmiento Channel
2/28/2020	Fri	Punta Arenas
2/29/2020	Sat	Ushuaia
3/1/2020	Sun	Scenic cruising Cape Horn
3/2/2020	Mon	Port Stanley
3/3/2020	Tue	At Sea (South Atlantic Ocean)
3/4/2020	Wed	At Sea
3/5/2020	Thu	Montevideo
3/6/2020	Fri	BUENOS AIRES

[Vict0riann]

35 minutes ago, cdwise said:

There aren’t. Single largest group by nationality are US at 306, Canadians, ay 265, UK at 228, AU/NZ at 120 the remainder of all nationalities are less than just the number of US citizens. 
 

The ship left Ft Lauderdale I think in Feb. Disembarked some  and took on new passengers March 7 in Buenos Aires. Next scheduled itinerary passenger change for those not doing the around the horn full SA cruise was to be Santiago Chile March 23. Holland along with other cruise lines shut down and started trying to get passengers home before reaching Santiago but Chile refused to let the passengers disembark and fly home from either the port before San Antonio or San Antonio so the ship headed straight for its final destination of Ft Lauderdale where it had been due to dock April 7. Asking ports it had been scheduled to stop at along the way to allow them to dock so passengers could get home sooner. Nobody let them dock and it took a lot of pressure to get Panama to let them through the canal. Which was transited in record breaking time. 
 

When these folks left whether from Ft Lauderdale or to board in Buenos Aires in early March there were no travel advisories for their itinerary only fro Asia and even then not all Asian countries. So let’s quit applying hindsight and get people home. 

For @LHT28 repeat of a previous post.

[Copper10-8]

3 minutes ago, sansterre said:

reviewed both pages and only found this on #1065

" Apparently the Broward County commissioners are going to meet on Tuesday to discuss the options."

Is there something more?  Otherwise, it sounds like a workshop type of meeting.

 

That was two days ago 😉 They were going to meet again today to approve the final game plan. That is what we're, and more importantly, Zaandam and Rotterdam, are waiting for

[Himself]

Just now, Copper10-8 said:

 

That was two days ago 😉 They were going to meet again today to approve the final game plan. That is what we're, and more importantly, Zaandam and Rotterdam, are waiting for

 

 

John:  I cannot find your earlier link to Port Everglades

[LHT28]

2 minutes ago, Vict0riann said:

For @LHT28 repeat of a previous post.

 Yeah I got that  the virus was not that bad   but as posted  The ship left FLL  in Feb according the posts above

Just wondered why some people think they  were on in SA ?

[Copper10-8]

Just now, Himself said:

 

 

John:  I cannot find your earlier link to Port Everglades

 

This one, Father?

 

https://www.portevergladeswebcam.com/

[sansterre]

1 minute ago, Copper10-8 said:

 

That was two days ago 😉 They were going to meet again today to approve the final game plan. That is what we're, and more importantly, Zaandam and Rotterdam, are waiting for

Nothing was happening on their website earlier.  I will look again.

Copper - are you sure things are held up for the Commission's approval?  That is all we are all waiting for?

 

[cat shepard]

sorry dupe

Edited April 2, 2020 by cat shepard

[Boytjie]

On MSNBC they just said that the "paperwork" has not been signed off yet and that the ships will not be entering until that is done.

 

The ships seem to be about 15 miles out at sea.

Edited April 2, 2020 by Boytjie

[RMLincoln]

Remember that the Unified Command includes:  (as listed previously, post #1672).  Note that it's a lot broader than the county commissioners.  m--

 

Broward Unified Command Members:

• U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
• Florida Department of Health in Broward County
• U.S. Coast Guard
• U.S. Customs & Border Protection
• Broward Sheriff’s Office Departments of Law Enforcement and Fire Rescue
• Broward County Emergency Management
• Port Everglades Pilots Association
• Broward County Port Everglades Department

[barb-ottawa]

Now it says 16:00 and 16:30 and still scheduled, not confirmed.

[Himself]

2 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said:

 

This one, Father?

 

https://www.portevergladeswebcam.com/

Actually the Fort Lauderale from Pier 66 Hotel

[cat shepard]

A ship is on the horizon again.

[JVilleGal]

22 minutes ago, LHT28 said:

 Yeah I got that  the virus was not that bad   but as posted  The ship left FLL  in Feb according the posts above

Just wondered why some people think they  were on in SA ?

the majority of the current passengers boarded March 6 in SA and that cruise was suppose to ultimately end in FL.
correction:

Edited April 2, 2020 by JVilleGal

[sansterre]

Fox News now reporting that an agreement has been reached.

Details forthcoming!

[summer slope]

2 minutes ago, Himself said:

Actually the Fort Lauderale from Pier 66 Hotel

https://www.ftlauderdalewebcam.com/  Here you go Father.

[Scrapnana]

3 minutes ago, Himself said:

Actually the Fort Lauderale from Pier 66 Hotel

https://www.ftlauderdalewebcam.com/

[Copper10-8]

7 minutes ago, sansterre said:

Nothing was happening on their website earlier.  I will look again.

Copper - are you sure things are held up for the Commission's approval?  That is all we are all waiting for?

 

 

Michael Udine
@Michaeludine
Unified Command conferenced last night and reached conditional approval of Carnival’s Plan, subject to approval between Broward and Carnival. Final document will be released this morning. As of now, ships remain outside US Waters. Look forward to seeing a SAFE plan for all to resolve

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5:20 AM - Apr 2, 2020

[sansterre]

Fox reporter at PE says a Commissioner reported that negotiations are over.

[Copper10-8]

5 minutes ago, Himself said:

Actually the Fort Lauderale from Pier 66 Hotel

 

https://www.ftlauderdalewebcam.com/