Miami vs Port Everglades

[RJB]

Six cruise ships docked now in Miami and none in Port Everglades.  Have been seeing up to 11 in Miami and almost none in Port Everglades.  Anyone have any idea why? 

[Flatbush Flyer]

19 minutes ago, RJB said:

Six cruise ships docked now in Miami and none in Port Everglades.  Have been seeing up to 11 in Miami and almost none in Port Everglades.  Anyone have any idea why? 

If for no other reason than "economy of scale." Why would anyone want to spread focused deployment locations out beyond a single strategic location?

[RJB]

40 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said:

If for no other reason than "economy of scale." Why would anyone want to spread focused deployment locations out beyond a single strategic location?

There must be 20 to 25 ships off shore in the ocean between Miami and FLL.   So sad to  see all those ships just sitting there with who knows how many crew.

[Flatbush Flyer]

5 minutes ago, RJB said:

There must be 20 to 25 ships off shore in the ocean between Miami and FLL.   So sad to  see all those ships just sitting there with who knows how many crew.

That's all?

If your travels ever take you to Saipan, check out  the fleet of US Military Sealift Command ships, that (except for the occasional "jog around the block") just sits there waiting ... and waiting ... and waiting....

[pinotlover]

Want to really see sad, take a delightful cruise down the Nile and see all the hundreds of preSpring Uprising river boats rafted up on docks or just tied to shore rusting away!

 

Some have been turned into hotel space or apartments, but most just sit there!

[RJB]

52 minutes ago, pinotlover said:

Want to really see sad, take a delightful cruise down the Nile and see all the hundreds of preSpring Uprising river boats rafted up on docks or just tied to shore rusting away!

 

Some have been turned into hotel space or apartments, but most just sit there!

Hope this does not happen to all our cruise ships. 

[floridatravelersforlife]

7 hours ago, RJB said:

There must be 20 to 25 ships off shore in the ocean between Miami and FLL.   So sad to  see all those ships just sitting there with who knows how many crew.

Are the ships lit up at night?  Must be a pretty sight.

[Hlitner]

It is all about money.  Most of the cruise ships are anchored somewhere off the coast of either South Florida or the Bahamas.  Anchoring costs zero.  Docking at a port involves daily fees.   Some of the cruise ships do occasionally dock in order to replenish supplies and move some of the crew.

 

Hank 

[StanandJim]

13 hours ago, Hlitner said:

It is all about money.  Most of the cruise ships are anchored somewhere off the coast of either South Florida or the Bahamas.  Anchoring costs zero.  Docking at a port involves daily fees.   Some of the cruise ships do occasionally dock in order to replenish supplies and move some of the crew.

 

Hank 

Miami has suspended docking fees, as have many other ports.  

[RJB]

1 hour ago, StanandJim said:

Miami has suspended docking fees, as have many other ports.  

 

1 hour ago, StanandJim said:

Miami has suspended docking fees, as have many other ports.  

Smart move in these hard times.  Looks like FLL has not or there would be some ships there.

[njhorseman]

2 hours ago, StanandJim said:

Miami has suspended docking fees, as have many other ports.  

 

50 minutes ago, RJB said:

 

Smart move in these hard times.  Looks like FLL has not or there would be some ships there.

Per this March 14 article Port of Miami suspended berthing fees for 30 days and said that time period "could be amended" : https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/march-14-updates-shouldering-coronavirus-costs-miami-waives-lay-berth-fees-more-cruise-lines .

 

Per this May 7 article Miami extended the berthing fee suspension through May 12, but I can't find any mention of fees being waived beyond that date, nor have I found anything stating that any other ports have at any time suspended their berthing fees. https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/ports-helping-cruise-ships-find-safe-berths . You'll note that the ports other than Miami named in the article as being used for layups are not mentioned as suspending their fees.

 

[Hawaiidan]

On 5/20/2020 at 11:07 AM, Flatbush Flyer said:

That's all?

If your travels ever take you to Saipan, check out  the fleet of US Military Sealift Command ships, that (except for the occasional "jog around the block") just sits there waiting ... and waiting ... and waiting....

You dont have to go to Saipan.......just head up to Benecia and see the reserve fleet or Bremerton .....

[Flatbush Flyer]

8 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said:

You dont have to go to Saipan.......just head up to Benecia and see the reserve fleet or Bremerton .....

With only a few notable vessel exceptions left, calling the Suisun Bay collection a "Reserve" Fleet is a kindness.

On an unrelated note, I suggest ignoring that "one O cruise" kibitzer.

[Hawaiidan]

On 5/24/2020 at 6:07 AM, RJB said:

 

Smart move in these hard times.  Looks like FLL has not or there would be some ships there.

One big negative  is in tropical/warmer waters  stationary ship hulls  start getting covered with barnacles, alge, and a slew of marine growths that foul props  rudders and intakes that require extensive dry dock over haul...  Colder waters do not than the same threat  not do moving ships

[Flatbush Flyer]

15 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said:

One big negative  is in tropical/warmer waters  stationary ship hulls  start getting covered with barnacles, alge, and a slew of marine growths that foul props  rudders and intakes that require extensive dry dock over haul...  Colder waters do not than the same threat  not do moving ships

Nothing that a few thousand gallons of Petit Trinidad wouldn't prevent (though it couldn't be done in the US).

[eroller]

PortMiami has waived docking fees and Port Everglades has not.  That is your answer in a nutshell.