clairol Posted August 30, 2021 #1 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) It's officially official... what it means for each member state still to be determined... https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021/08/30/covid-19-council-removes-5-countries-and-one-entity-territorial-authority-from-the-list-of-countries-for-which-travel-restrictions-should-be-lifted/pdf https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-30/eu-to-reimpose-travel-curbs-on-u-s-amid-rise-in-new-covid-cases Edited August 30, 2021 by clairol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidalmist Posted August 30, 2021 #2 Share Posted August 30, 2021 As a Canadian we won’t be banned, but the question remains, will the Marina sail without Americans? She is scheduled to do a transatlantic in late November! From the US then on to South America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mauibabes Posted August 30, 2021 #3 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I guess we will see what this means in the coming weeks since the countries can do their own restricting . One “out” of course, all Oceania passengers will be vaccinated and many I am sure will have had Boosters and the ability to prove ir. 🙏😷🤞 Gerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted August 30, 2021 #4 Share Posted August 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, Tidalmist said: As a Canadian we won’t be banned, but the question remains, will the Marina sail without Americans? She is scheduled to do a transatlantic in late November! From the US then on to South America. Absolutely not!!She will not sail without Americans.. Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseLibra Posted August 30, 2021 #5 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) The NYT is reporting that this reccommended ban will be for unvaccinated only: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/world/eu-us-tourists-restrictions.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20210830&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta®i_id=57229123&segment_id=67619&user_id=1a35d75f66628a24fb82152518b6fb48 Edited August 30, 2021 by CruiseLibra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted August 30, 2021 #6 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I hope the current Marina sailing underway isn't the only one Oceania is going to accomplish. With their European cruises touching on multiple countries, this could get tricky. As regards TATL sailings, if O really wants to get a ship to the US for the winter they may have to sail empty. This is what Windstar is having to do with the Star Breeze. She was scheduled to take passengers from Costa Rica to Tahiti but will sail empty now. If Americans can't enter Europe to embark a TATL cruise, and Europeans are not allowed into the US, Marina and Riviera could be empty as they cross the Atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted August 30, 2021 #7 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I'll be checking my bookings for possible upgrades – because nervous people will be cancelling today before anybody knows what this announcement will really mean. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseh2o Posted August 30, 2021 #8 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Thanks for posting this EU news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clairol Posted August 30, 2021 Author #9 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) All may not be lost as Oceania has been smart enough to commit to 100% vaccinated from the start... https://twitter.com/EUintheUS/status/1432379031027060742/photo/3 Edited August 30, 2021 by clairol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEASwim Posted August 30, 2021 #10 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, CruiseLibra said: The NYT is reporting that this reccommended ban will be for unvaccinated only: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/world/eu-us-tourists-restrictions.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20210830&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta®i_id=57229123&segment_id=67619&user_id=1a35d75f66628a24fb82152518b6fb48 The Bloomberg article posted above also mentions it will most likely affect the unvaccinated. Let's hope that's the case! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted August 30, 2021 #11 Share Posted August 30, 2021 This topic just came up at the afternoon's White House Press Conference and it was mentioned that the EU recommendation only impacts on the unvaccinated. Guess we shall have to wait and see but the truth is that the unvaccinated have already been very limited on where they can travel. In our own case we have 3 cruises (14, 14 and 18 day) booked this year (we recently took that first cruise in Greece) and all of those cruises (with 2 different cruise lines) have mandatory vaccination requirements. Hank 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastman Posted August 31, 2021 #12 Share Posted August 31, 2021 21 hours ago, Jancruz said: Absolutely not!!She will not sail without Americans.. Jancruz1 If she doesn't sail what happens - simply lay up in Europe for the winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhD-iva Posted August 31, 2021 #13 Share Posted August 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, Belfastman said: If she doesn't sail what happens - simply lay up in Europe for the winter? The issue of a ship having to sail without pax for 14 days before it can access a US port applies only to vessels that do not have a US homeport. I am not exactly sure what “homeport” means, however I doubt very much that it applies to any of the Oceania vessels. Perhaps someone who understands this concept better than me can explain it to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted August 31, 2021 #14 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, PhD-iva said: The issue of a ship having to sail without pax for 14 days before it can access a US port applies only to vessels that do not have a US homeport. I am not exactly sure what “homeport” means, however I doubt very much that it applies to any of the Oceania vessels. Perhaps someone who understands this concept better than me can explain it to us. This is not the problem. If Americans cannot fly to Europe to board the ships for the TATL sailings and Europeans can't enter the US at Miami, then there would be no one on the ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEASwim Posted August 31, 2021 #15 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) The New York Times has another story that pretty adamantly states the new restrictions should NOT affect vaccinated Americans: https://www.nytimes.com/article/eu-us-travel-restrictions.html from the article: How does this affect vaccinated travelers? If you are fully vaccinated with an E.U.-approved vaccine, which include those manufactured by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson, the requirements you face entering a E.U. country should not change. Edited August 31, 2021 by SEASwim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikless Posted August 31, 2021 #16 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, SEASwim said: The New York Times has another story that pretty adamantly states the new restrictions should NOT affect vaccinated Americans: https://www.nytimes.com/article/eu-us-travel-restrictions.html from the article: How does this affect vaccinated travelers? If you are fully vaccinated with an E.U.-approved vaccine, which include those manufactured by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson, the requirements you face entering a E.U. country should not change. Should being the key word... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted August 31, 2021 #17 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, SEASwim said: The New York Times has another story that pretty adamantly states the new restrictions should NOT affect vaccinated Americans: https://www.nytimes.com/article/eu-us-travel-restrictions.html 1 hour ago, nikless said: Should being the key word... Perfect example of 'glass half full' vs. 'glass half empty' view of the world... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhD-iva Posted August 31, 2021 #18 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 12:02 PM, susiesan said: I hope the current Marina sailing underway isn't the only one Oceania is going to accomplish. With their European cruises touching on multiple countries, this could get tricky. As regards TATL sailings, if O really wants to get a ship to the US for the winter they may have to sail empty. This is what Windstar is having to do with the Star Breeze. She was scheduled to take passengers from Costa Rica to Tahiti but will sail empty now. If Americans can't enter Europe to embark a TATL cruise, and Europeans are not allowed into the US, Marina and Riviera could be empty as they cross the Atlantic. Susiesan, my post # 13 is in response to your post quoted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbsmutoni Posted August 31, 2021 #19 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 12:04 PM, Host Jazzbeau said: I'll be checking my bookings for possible upgrades – because nervous people will be cancelling today before anybody knows what this announcement will really mean. Yes!! I did that the other day and was able to move up to an Oceania Suite! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v4e Posted September 1, 2021 #20 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 hours ago, sbsmutoni said: Yes!! I did that the other day and was able to move up to an Oceania Suite! How much for suite and PH upgrade? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted September 1, 2021 #21 Share Posted September 1, 2021 We are on the 9/8 sailing. We are in concierge and we were offered an upgrade to PH for $750 per person. I had a friend leave on an Alaskan cruise today on a different cruise line. During embarkation they were given a complimentary upgrade from an interior to an aft balcony. Just saying..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikless Posted September 1, 2021 #22 Share Posted September 1, 2021 13 hours ago, Host Jazzbeau said: Perfect example of 'glass half full' vs. 'glass half empty' view of the world... this glass-half-empty person just saw that vaccinated folks need a negative result within 72 hours of arrival in Italy...we still have 2 months before we fly, so the glass-half-full side of me hopes that restrictions will be modified by then.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted September 1, 2021 #23 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 hours ago, nikless said: this glass-half-empty person just saw that vaccinated folks need a negative result within 72 hours of arrival in Italy...we still have 2 months before we fly, so the glass-half-full side of me hopes that restrictions will be modified by then.... Since we went over a week early , we had to: 1. Have a test 72 hours before we boarded the plane. 2. Have another test 72 hours before we boarded the ship. 3. Have another test 72 hours before we flew back to the US. None of these were difficult things to accomplish. We also were required another test about half way through the cruise along with daily temperature checks before leaving the ship and reboarding. Never felt so safe in my life! 🤗 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFree Posted September 1, 2021 #24 Share Posted September 1, 2021 8 hours ago, courtside said: We are on the 9/8 sailing. We are in concierge and we were offered an upgrade to PH for $750 per person. I had a friend leave on an Alaskan cruise today on a different cruise line. During embarkation they were given a complimentary upgrade from an interior to an aft balcony. Just saying..... Could I ask, how did that happen and when (how far in advance of the cruise date)? Did O contact you about this offer, or contact your TA? Or did you initiate the discussion about upgrading? Tom & Judy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikless Posted September 1, 2021 #25 Share Posted September 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, pinotlover said: Since we went over a week early , we had to: 1. Have a test 72 hours before we boarded the plane. 2. Have another test 72 hours before we boarded the ship. 3. Have another test 72 hours before we flew back to the US. None of these were difficult things to accomplish. We also were required another test about half way through the cruise along with daily temperature checks before leaving the ship and reboarding. Never felt so safe in my life! 🤗 I don't have a problem with the protocol. I had a friend whose daughter moved to Germany (on business) earlier in the year. She lived out west. With connections and delays, by the time she was ready to board her international leg, her results from the test in her home town would have been outside the limits imposed by Germany. So she tested again in Atlanta before the international leg. Came out positive. She consulted a doctor but needed to quarantine for 5 days, get retested (negative this time) then get a letter from the doctor stating that she had fully recovered. Luckily we have only one connection, in Frankfurt, before moving on to Italy. We will have to get tested the day before we fly out and hope results are in before we board 24 hours later. No guarantees... Timing.... Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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