Rare BetsyS. Posted June 16, 2022 #1 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Is this something that HAL can charge after final payment has been made? Thanks in advance for any answers. Betsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted June 16, 2022 #2 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Not currently. Yes, it's in your cruise contract...they can add a fuel surcharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted June 16, 2022 #3 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Here is the current contract. I do not find a fuel surcharge included after a quick perusal https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/legal-privacy/cruise-contract.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare albingirl Posted June 16, 2022 #4 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Probably it's coming. Insane gas prices, how could they not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobiemom Posted June 16, 2022 #5 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Shhh! Don’t give them any ideas! If I remember correctly, a long time ago a fuel surcharge was added to my onboard account. It was just a few dollars, maybe under $20? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted June 16, 2022 #6 Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 hours ago, albingirl said: Probably it's coming. Insane gas prices, how could they not? Since the ships don't use gasoline, the price of gasoline is irrelevant. While gas prices have gone up over 100% in the last few months, bunker prices have only increased about 20% over the same time. Bunker fuel is a "by product" of crude oil refining, not something they try to make from crude. So, for every barrel of crude that is refined, the refinery is left with about 20-30% of that barrel as bunker fuel, that they can do nothing with but sell it as bunker fuel. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalay1903 Posted June 17, 2022 #7 Share Posted June 17, 2022 21 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Since the ships don't use gasoline, the price of gasoline is irrelevant. While gas prices have gone up over 100% in the last few months, bunker prices have only increased about 20% over the same time. Bunker fuel is a "by product" of crude oil refining, not something they try to make from crude. So, for every barrel of crude that is refined, the refinery is left with about 20-30% of that barrel as bunker fuel, that they can do nothing with but sell it as bunker fuel. Thank you for your insights about bunker fuel. Do the HAL cruise ships use fuels other than bunker fuel for propulsion--to any significant degree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted June 17, 2022 #8 Share Posted June 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, Mandalay1903 said: Thank you for your insights about bunker fuel. Do the HAL cruise ships use fuels other than bunker fuel for propulsion--to any significant degree? For the most part they use a low sulfur residual fuel (bunker fuel or IFO380), unless they have a scrubber, when they can use a higher sulfur IFO380. While in an ECA (Emission control area), like the North America, Baltic, North Sea, etc, the ships use "Marine Gas Oil" which is the maritime name for essentially #2 Diesel in the US (home heating oil). All power on the ship, whether propulsion or hotel load is generated by the same generators, so they all use the same fuel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFNavigator Posted June 17, 2022 #9 Share Posted June 17, 2022 56 minutes ago, chengkp75 said: For the most part they use a low sulfur residual fuel (bunker fuel or IFO380), unless they have a scrubber, when they can use a higher sulfur IFO380. While in an ECA (Emission control area), like the North America, Baltic, North Sea, etc, the ships use "Marine Gas Oil" which is the maritime name for essentially #2 Diesel in the US (home heating oil). All power on the ship, whether propulsion or hotel load is generated by the same generators, so they all use the same fuel. I see some of the older HAL ships have a GE LM2500 Gas Turbine as one of their engine combinations. Would it be correct that gas turbine engine requires a lighter fuel yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted June 18, 2022 #10 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 hours ago, AFNavigator said: I see some of the older HAL ships have a GE LM2500 Gas Turbine as one of their engine combinations. Would it be correct that gas turbine engine requires a lighter fuel yet? No, marine gas turbines are designed to burn Marine Gas Oil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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