Costa by Carnival development

[mz-s]

8 minutes ago, CarnivalShips480 said:

I called it before, but no one believed me. Now everyone can see that they will be Carnival Venezia and Carnival Firenze.

 

Carnival in name only - they still say Costa on the hull and they’re not even painting the funnel, let alone putting a whale tail on.

[CarnivalShips480]

10 minutes ago, mz-s said:

 

Carnival in name only - they still say Costa on the hull and they’re not even painting the funnel, let alone putting a whale tail on.

Yes, in my post I meant called Carnival Venezia and Carnival Firenze

[tidecat]

56 minutes ago, mz-s said:

 

Carnival in name only - they still say Costa on the hull and they’re not even painting the funnel, let alone putting a whale tail on.

The ship's registered name has to be on the hull. Carnival can market it however they want. If the ship's name is legally changing, the official change should pop up in the media somewhere.

 

It will also be interesting to see if the ship is reflagged from Italy to Panama or The Bahamas.

[CarnivalShips480]

4 hours ago, tidecat said:

The ship's registered name has to be on the hull. Carnival can market it however they want. If the ship's name is legally changing, the official change should pop up in the media somewhere.

 

It will also be interesting to see if the ship is reflagged from Italy to Panama or The Bahamas.

I would think Italy, it would make the most sense since they are making a big deal that the ships are Italian

[CarnivalShips480]

In this article: https://www.cruisehive.com/port-provides-update-on-why-carnival-cruise-ship-is-pulling-out/85884

 

San Juan said that Mardi Gras won't call because of fuel costs. At the end of the article, San Juan said that Carnival told them that Mardi Gras might switch to shorter 3+4 day cruises, closer to Port Canaveral.

 

This gave me ideas. What if Mardi Gras will take Liberty's place, Liberty takes Panorama's place (low bookings on Panorama right?) and Panorama does 7 days from Port Canaveral. Alternately, Firenze could take Panorama's spot, Panorama to Mardi Gras, Mardi Gras to Liberty, and Liberty to a high demand area.

 

Firenze could do exotic cruises to like South America or something to open something new for Carnival.

 

 

Of course, Mardi Gras and Liberty could just switch

[tidecat]

This makes no sense. I am on the February 18 sailing that right now is still scheduled to call at San Juan. The February 11 and 25 sailings have dropped San Juan in favor of Nassau.

 

Mardi Gras can hold enough LNG for two weeks of operation. It can also run entirely on diesel if Carnival so chooses.

[jsglow]

36 minutes ago, tidecat said:

This makes no sense. I am on the February 18 sailing that right now is still scheduled to call at San Juan. The February 11 and 25 sailings have dropped San Juan in favor of Nassau.

 

Mardi Gras can hold enough LNG for two weeks of operation. It can also run entirely on diesel if Carnival so chooses.

Just because it can hold enough LNG doesn't mean Carnival wants it to burn that much.  I had not reflected on the LNG situation being a driving factor here but this raises interesting questions.  It will be interesting that if an effort to 'go green' the cruise industry might have to compromise their product offerings.

 

I, for one, am surely not interested in sailing on a mega ship to 2-3 Bahamas ports (including the new Freeport location) at some highly inflated price simply because it has some new food venues aboard.

[CarnivalShips480]

wrong link

 

It seems that Venezia will take over Magic's summer NYC cruises, and Magic will stay in Norfolk for the summer

Edited October 30, 2022 by CarnivalShips480

[shof515]

2 hours ago, CarnivalShips480 said:

It seems that Venezia will take over Magic's summer NYC cruises, and Magic will stay in Norfolk for the summer

thats what i noticed. i create a topic about that here:

 

[tidecat]

Any chance Firenze comes over sooner now that Costa Fortuna will be without work after April 2023?

[CruiseAdict218]

35 minutes ago, tidecat said:

Any chance Firenze comes over sooner now that Costa Fortuna will be without work after April 2023?

Certainly possible, Costa Magica is also without work and with reports of Costa leaving Asia, Costa Serena doesn't have work either. 

[gkbiiii]

I hope that this is the best of both worlds, as Costa's continual reviews are horrible; however the two "Carnival Cruising Italian Style" ships look amazing!  When is the NYC ship going on sale, I really want to book it ASAP!

[cruisequeen4ever]

I don’t know what to think about this concept. As someone else said, if it’s a merging of the best of both worlds, that’s great, but it could also be a flop if they don’t do it right.

[mattcj89]

After looking at the deck plans and features of Venezia, it seems like the ship is going to be more “Carnivalized” than previously advertised. 
 

I anticipate Panorama to be redeployed after Firenze joins the fleet, since it doesn’t seem likely the west coast would be able keep all the ships out of Long Beach filled. It‘s going to be interesting to see how these ships are received by the public once they start sailing.