philbob84 Posted October 22, 2023 #776 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Is the Sun Princess a Project Millie Design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted October 22, 2023 #777 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 hours ago, philbob84 said: Is the Sun Princess a Project Millie Design? No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted October 23, 2023 #778 Share Posted October 23, 2023 My understanding is that Princess’ Sphere-class shares its engineering (LNG propulsion, hull structure, mechanical systems) with Carnival’s Excel-class and Helios-class ships. Although those classes are built at Meyer shipyards in Germany and Finland, Princess saved a lot of development costs for their new class by sharing these underpinnings. I actually think Carnival Corp did a better job differentiating these ships than previous shared classes. It always bothered me that Vista-class ships for HAL, P&O, Cunard, and Costa looked almost identical. And the Sphere-class for Princess won’t be mistaken for P&O’s Iona, unlike the many Grand-class ships shared by both brands. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbtan Posted October 23, 2023 #779 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fairsky84 said: My understanding is that Princess’ Sphere-class shares its engineering (LNG propulsion, hull structure, mechanical systems) with Carnival’s Excel-class and Helios-class ships. Although those classes are built at Meyer shipyards in Germany and Finland, Princess saved a lot of development costs for their new class by sharing these underpinnings. I actually think Carnival Corp did a better job differentiating these ships than previous shared classes. It always bothered me that Vista-class ships for HAL, P&O, Cunard, and Costa looked almost identical. And the Sphere-class for Princess won’t be mistaken for P&O’s Iona, unlike the many Grand-class ships shared by both brands. Kind of like Buick/Cadillac/Oldsmobile in the 1980s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted October 23, 2023 #780 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, rbtan said: Kind of like Buick/Cadillac/Oldsmobile in the 1980s Right. Carnival and RCI have been doing this for decades, but I think RCI was much better at differentiating their ships for each brand. For example, the Radiance-class for Royal Caribbean and the Millennium-class for Celebrity were engineered with the same mechanicals and hull, but you’d never know that from looking at the ships or their deck plans. Carnival, however, just built identical ships and changed the funnels and decor. Glad to see they’re trying a bit harder with these new LNG classes. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minniegidget Posted October 23, 2023 #781 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Do you think that the will be ready Feb 8th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antsp Posted October 23, 2023 #782 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, minniegidget said: Do you think that the will be ready Feb 8th? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-vs Posted October 23, 2023 #783 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) Based on the renderings and images that I've seen, it appears that the only place on the ship where you can see the ocean without a wall of glass in front of you is from a balcony cabin. If true, this is tragic. One of my favorite things on a cruise ship is standing next to the railing on the lido or promenade deck and looking out at the horizon. The effect is totally ruined when there's a pane of glass obstructing the view. Edited October 23, 2023 by rob-vs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted October 24, 2023 #784 Share Posted October 24, 2023 AIS is operating 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbob84 Posted October 26, 2023 #785 Share Posted October 26, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 7:05 PM, Fairsky84 said: Right. Carnival and RCI have been doing this for decades, but I think RCI was much better at differentiating their ships for each brand. For example, the Radiance-class for Royal Caribbean and the Millennium-class for Celebrity were engineered with the same mechanicals and hull, but you’d never know that from looking at the ships or their deck plans. Carnival, however, just built identical ships and changed the funnels and decor. Glad to see they’re trying a bit harder with these new LNG classes. Really appreciate the response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbob84 Posted October 27, 2023 #786 Share Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 5:19 PM, Fairsky84 said: My understanding is that Princess’ Sphere-class shares its engineering (LNG propulsion, hull structure, mechanical systems) with Carnival’s Excel-class and Helios-class ships. Although those classes are built at Meyer shipyards in Germany and Finland, Princess saved a lot of development costs for their new class by sharing these underpinnings. I actually think Carnival Corp did a better job differentiating these ships than previous shared classes. It always bothered me that Vista-class ships for HAL, P&O, Cunard, and Costa looked almost identical. And the Sphere-class for Princess won’t be mistaken for P&O’s Iona, unlike the many Grand-class ships shared by both brands. On 10/22/2023 at 7:05 PM, Fairsky84 said: Right. Carnival and RCI have been doing this for decades, but I think RCI was much better at differentiating their ships for each brand. For example, the Radiance-class for Royal Caribbean and the Millennium-class for Celebrity were engineered with the same mechanicals and hull, but you’d never know that from looking at the ships or their deck plans. Carnival, however, just built identical ships and changed the funnels and decor. Glad to see they’re trying a bit harder with these new LNG classes. Hi do you have any recommendations on places to read about the technical design on the ship? Off topic the recent twitter photos are really making this ship look incredible, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare dides Posted October 28, 2023 #787 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Some long shots posted by Micky Arison from the shipyard: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDVM96 Posted October 28, 2023 #788 Share Posted October 28, 2023 The Sun is now on her way from Monfalcone Fincantieri to Palermo. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDVM96 Posted October 28, 2023 #789 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 10/23/2023 at 5:27 PM, rob-vs said: Based on the renderings and images that I've seen, it appears that the only place on the ship where you can see the ocean without a wall of glass in front of you is from a balcony cabin. If true, this is tragic. One of my favorite things on a cruise ship is standing next to the railing on the lido or promenade deck and looking out at the horizon. The effect is totally ruined when there's a pane of glass obstructing the view. 😨 This, and 5200 pax, I am not sure if i will like this ship class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare dides Posted October 28, 2023 #790 Share Posted October 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, EDVM96 said: 😨 This, and 5200 pax, I am not sure if i will like this ship class. Sun Princess will have 4,300 passengers. 17% increase based on the last Royal class ships but much more space for them. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmbar Posted October 28, 2023 #791 Share Posted October 28, 2023 There are outdoor spaces facing the ocean Outdoor dining, wake pool, jogging , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted October 28, 2023 #792 Share Posted October 28, 2023 She's a fine looking vessel, designed to please a myriad of passengers. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJpaul Posted October 28, 2023 #793 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 hours ago, EDVM96 said: The Sun is now on her way from Monfalcone Fincantieri to Palermo. This is so exciting! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDVM96 Posted October 28, 2023 #794 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 hours ago, mlmbar said: There are outdoor spaces facing the ocean Outdoor dining, wake pool, jogging , Sorry, but this is not nearly enough for a cruise ship of this size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmbar Posted October 28, 2023 #795 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I just mentioned a few places. I don’t know them all. The ship hasn’t been finished so none of us know. If you don’t think there is enough then don’t book it 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDVM96 Posted October 28, 2023 #796 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, mlmbar said: If you don’t think there is enough then don’t book it That would be the strategy then. Well, let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare dides Posted October 29, 2023 #797 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, EDVM96 said: The Sun is now on her way from Monfalcone Fincantieri to Palermo Cruisemapper now says sea trials Edited October 29, 2023 by dides 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruizinSusan70 Posted October 29, 2023 #798 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, EDVM96 said: Sorry, but this is not nearly enough for a cruise ship of this size. There are 15 other smaller ships in the fleet that obviously must be to your liking. Nobody is twisting your arm to cruise on the Sun or the Star. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fayfam Posted October 31, 2023 #799 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Hi Everyone 🙂 I was wondering if the mini-suites only had a shower & no bath? Also, is there a MUTS as with all other Princess ships? I have checked the deck plans but couldn’t see the MUTS near the pool areas. Thanks in advance for your help 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoozecrooze Posted October 31, 2023 #800 Share Posted October 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, fayfam said: I was wondering if the mini-suites only had a shower & no bath? Also, is there a MUTS as with all other Princess ships? Yes to both. First question/answer was confirmed by the head of design a few months ago when prompted, citing the "desire for more livable space" (or something along those lines). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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