What the heck, Glory?

[BlerkOne]

Glory has a dry dock scheduled Dry Dock: 3/24/24-4/17/24

A transatlantic Apr 18, 2024 - May 2, 2024

 

Carnival is still selling a Glory cruise RT New Orleans 3/17-3/24

 

Does not compute.

[EngIceDave]

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[chengkp75]

4 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

Glory has a dry dock scheduled Dry Dock: 3/24/24-4/17/24

A transatlantic Apr 18, 2024 - May 2, 2024

 

Carnival is still selling a Glory cruise RT New Orleans 3/17-3/24

 

Does not compute.

What doesn't compute?  While not probable, due to the ship's age, it is doable.  Ship disembarks passengers in NOLA on 3/24, does an 11 day non-revenue crossing to Barcelona, arriving 4/4, and has a 12 day dry dock.

 

While looking at Glory's survey schedule, I find it interesting that Lloyds has her due for a bottom inspection (and this can't be a diver survey due to age and anniversary) in June 2023, with no postponement date.  There does seem to be a one week break in her schedule in June, but getting to a shipyard from NOLA takes time.

[shof515]

during the non revenue crossing they can do alot of maintenance work onboard the ship as the ship will be empty with no passengers. then at the shipyard it will arrive at the drydock to be pulled out of the water to do the work that is needed under the ship

[jsglow]

Following on what @chengkp75 said, it would seem that only required statutory work will be getting done.  Maybe some carpets and paint but very little else. No doubt it'll be a work zone during the non-rev crossing.

[mz-s]

17 minutes ago, jsglow said:

Following on what @chengkp75 said, it would seem that only required statutory work will be getting done.  Maybe some carpets and paint but very little else. No doubt it'll be a work zone during the non-rev crossing.

 

Par for the course for Carnival post-restart.

[jsglow]

21 minutes ago, mz-s said:

 

Par for the course for Carnival post-restart.

I point you to the upcoming Pride drydock. While nothing grandiose, it's not 'statutory'.

[mz-s]

23 minutes ago, jsglow said:

I point you to the upcoming Pride drydock. While nothing grandiose, it's not 'statutory'.

 

Exception rather than the rule, but it is nice Carnival is back to removing lounges for more staterooms. It means we are back to some sort of normalcy I suppose.

[chengkp75]

25 minutes ago, jsglow said:

I point you to the upcoming Pride drydock. While nothing grandiose, it's not 'statutory'.

While the work in the hotel is not statutory, the timing of the drydock is, and the majority of the cost and time will be on statutory/regulatory work (hull and machinery).

[BlerkOne]

7 hours ago, chengkp75 said:

What doesn't compute?  While not probable, due to the ship's age, it is doable.  Ship disembarks passengers in NOLA on 3/24, does an 11 day non-revenue crossing to Barcelona, arriving 4/4, and has a 12 day dry dock.

 

Except Carnival's schedule says dry dock beginning 3/24 and it clearly won't be in dry dock then. Not even wet dock. Most Carnival dry docks seem to be a minimum of 14 days. I know they could do a non-revenue crossing, but why? I still think there is more here than has been released. At a minimum, I think a cruise or two might be cancelled.

 

7 hours ago, chengkp75 said:

 

While looking at Glory's survey schedule, I find it interesting that Lloyds has her due for a bottom inspection (and this can't be a diver survey due to age and anniversary) in June 2023, with no postponement date.  There does seem to be a one week break in her schedule in June, but getting to a shipyard from NOLA takes time.

Apparently it takes no time for the 3/24 dry dock.

[BlerkOne]

5 hours ago, mz-s said:

 

Par for the course for Carnival post-restart.

As if no other cruise line does the same.

[chengkp75]

2 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

Except Carnival's schedule says dry dock beginning 3/24 and it clearly won't be in dry dock then. Not even wet dock.

Any time a dry dock schedule is posted, it includes the transit time to and from the yard, so since they might be doing a non-revenue crossing, they could very well be informing the public that the "dry dock" starts on 3/24, especially if they are planning on a lot of demolition work on the crossing.

 

5 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

Most Carnival dry docks seem to be a minimum of 14 days. I know they could do a non-revenue crossing, but why?

Why?  Because this gives them the time to do a lot of work by subcontractors that does not need to be done in a shipyard, and certainly not in a dry dock.  That changes the "critical time line" work in the shipyard to be that requiring dry dock time.

[BlerkOne]

3 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

Any time a dry dock schedule is posted, it includes the transit time to and from the yard, so since they might be doing a non-revenue crossing, they could very well be informing the public that the "dry dock" starts on 3/24, especially if they are planning on a lot of demolition work on the crossing.

 

Why?  Because this gives them the time to do a lot of work by subcontractors that does not need to be done in a shipyard, and certainly not in a dry dock.  That changes the "critical time line" work in the shipyard to be that requiring dry dock time.

Then I suspect demolition work will begin on the last cruise.

 

Even with the Pride, Carnival did a revenue crossing. Perhaps the $100 casino cabins aren't paying off?

[chengkp75]

5 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

Then I suspect demolition work will begin on the last cruise.

Why?  When they have 11 days that they can use on the crossing?

 

6 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

Even with the Pride, Carnival did a revenue crossing. Perhaps the $100 casino cabins aren't paying off?

What is the dry dock schedule for the dock the Glory will be using?  Pride is in for 4 weeks, if I recall, and that was likely the available slot they booked a while in advance.  Perhaps the Glory could not get a 4 week window, so decided to go with a non-revenue cruise and a shorter shipyard.

[BlerkOne]

1 hour ago, chengkp75 said:

Why?  When they have 11 days that they can use on the crossing?

 

What is the dry dock schedule for the dock the Glory will be using?  Pride is in for 4 weeks, if I recall, and that was likely the available slot they booked a while in advance.  Perhaps the Glory could not get a 4 week window, so decided to go with a non-revenue cruise and a shorter shipyard.

Just seems odd to me. Carnival has known for some time that Glory was repositioning from New Orleans to Port Canaveral so was going to do a non-rev cruise anyway. And they would have known about the hull inspection.

[Dippy Dawg]

10 hours ago, chengkp75 said:

While looking at Glory's survey schedule, I find it interesting that Lloyds has her due for a bottom inspection (and this can't be a diver survey due to age and anniversary) in June 2023, with no postponement date.  There does seem to be a one week break in her schedule in June, but getting to a shipyard from NOLA takes time.

There is a shipyard less than 3 miles from where Glory docks in New Orleans.

[icft]

One thing I will note about Glory. I think it was early 2022, they did a wet dock that changed out much of the interior public areas. They changed carpets, wall treatments, ceilings and generally made the public areas nice. Those areas are still nice and they have steadily done things like refinishing table tops and reupholstering furniture in the public areas while cruising since.

 

It is the cabins that are in sore need of refinishing these days. Some of the cabins are in close to rent by the hour shape. I don't see how the time span mentioned would be enough to redo all the rooms, but that is what Glory needs.

[chengkp75]

11 minutes ago, Dippy Dawg said:

There is a shipyard less than 3 miles from where Glory docks in New Orleans.

Foreign flag cruise ships tend to avoid US shipyards with their high costs like the plague, unless there is no other alternative.  Also, if you are referring to Avondale, that is no longer a shipyard, but has been redeveloped as a marine terminal.

[shof515]

Does the Glory have to do a transatlantic to the Cadiz shipyard? Freeport has a drydock shipyard that other cruise lines uses. maybe the Glory could go there to save time

[Megan_Strick]

15 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

Glory has a dry dock scheduled Dry Dock: 3/24/24-4/17/24

A transatlantic Apr 18, 2024 - May 2, 2024

 

Carnival is still selling a Glory cruise RT New Orleans 3/17-3/24

 

Does not compute.

The math ain't math'n

[BlerkOne]

1 hour ago, icft said:

It is the cabins that are in sore need of refinishing these days. Some of the cabins are in close to rent by the hour shape. I don't see how the time span mentioned would be enough to redo all the rooms, but that is what Glory needs.

Cabins can be redone anytime. Just take some of the $100 cabins out of service each cruise.

[mz-s]

I remember some years ago, I think it was the Victory or maybe Valor, Carnival was taking down sections of staterooms to refresh them while the ship was in service. The process took some months but was cheaper I'm sure than drydock time.

[chengkp75]

3 hours ago, shof515 said:

Does the Glory have to do a transatlantic to the Cadiz shipyard? Freeport has a drydock shipyard that other cruise lines uses. maybe the Glory could go there to save time

The question is whether Freeport has an opening at the time Glory needs it.  Dry dock space is extremely limited real estate, and usually booked long in advance.

[BlerkOne]

23 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

The question is whether Freeport has an opening at the time Glory needs it.  Dry dock space is extremely limited real estate, and usually booked long in advance.

Well heck, there is that portable drydock Carnival used once for Vista.

 

 

 

[Purvis1231]

20 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

Glory has a dry dock scheduled Dry Dock: 3/24/24-4/17/24

A transatlantic Apr 18, 2024 - May 2, 2024

 

Carnival is still selling a Glory cruise RT New Orleans 3/17-3/24

 

Does not compute.

Don't buy on, but doesshe depart New Orleans on the 3/24/2024 in route to drydock?