georgiaguy Posted June 29, 2023 #1 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I feel like I should be able to figure this out but I can't for the life of me. What does the diamond symbol mean? For reference, this is from Celebrity's website and the ship is the Ascent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted June 29, 2023 #2 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) Oops, wrong answer. I answered for triangle. 🙂 Edited June 29, 2023 by PTC DAWG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WrittenOnYourHeart Posted June 29, 2023 #3 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 minute ago, PTC DAWG said: I think it means there is a bed that comes down from the ceiling, a Single. It shows on some solo IVs on Edge-class (and other cabins - but a solo doesn't have a bed from the ceiling). I think it means there is some obstruction of the view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiaguy Posted June 29, 2023 Author #4 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I was thinking obstruction as well but then I would think more of deck 6 would be obstructed. But maybe I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WrittenOnYourHeart Posted June 29, 2023 #5 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I don't think the lifeboats go that far back to where the non-diamonded cabins are. But keep in mind the "obstruction" may be as little as 10% - could be more, but not necessarily. Also depends on how you define "obstruction". For me, it's obstructed if it blocks me seeing straight out to the horizon. That is where the view is for me. But for others their desired view seems to be straight down since for them having a lifeboat under their veranda (infinite or otherwise) ruins their view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare prmssk Posted June 29, 2023 #6 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I don’t think they are lifeboat obstructions as those diamonds appear on some (but not all) of the far forward and far aft porthole verandas on multiple decks as well as a few panoramic ocean view cabins. Interestingly those symbols only show up in the Beyond and Ascent (not the Apex or the Edge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiaguy Posted June 29, 2023 Author #7 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Here is a full deck plan. Note that it is also on a few select staterooms on deck 7 & 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEZMARYLOU Posted June 29, 2023 #8 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) If you go to the deck plans and enter one of the yellow stateroom #'s with the diamond the pop up shows it is a single stateroom with infinite veranda and an obstructed view. If you enter one of the stateroom numbers without the diamond, same description but no mention of an obstructed view. Compare 6144 to 6148 on Ascent and you'll see what I mean. I think it is the lifeboats. Edited June 29, 2023 by CHEZMARYLOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEZMARYLOU Posted June 29, 2023 #9 Share Posted June 29, 2023 39 minutes ago, georgiaguy said: I was thinking obstruction as well but then I would think more of deck 6 would be obstructed. But maybe I am wrong. Look at an image of the exterior of the ship. On the magic carpet side there are 3 lifeboats forward of the MC and 3 aft. They correspond to the obstructed view cabins marked with the diamond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiaguy Posted June 29, 2023 Author #10 Share Posted June 29, 2023 So why deck seven and eight in some but not all of the porthole verandas? Not saying you are wrong but these are the thing are the things making it a question for me. Also why is it not listed on the symbol key?? lol (I clearly need a vacation...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavias Posted June 29, 2023 #11 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Could those be the infinite verandas? Totally guessing here…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tyler414 Posted June 29, 2023 #12 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Ooops put the actual link to a different website. So may be a double post... Non-Convertible L-Shaped Twins is what cruiseline dot com says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiaguy Posted June 29, 2023 Author #13 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Next dumb question. Does that mean the couch? Cause what is an l shaped bed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tyler414 Posted June 29, 2023 #14 Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, georgiaguy said: Next dumb question. Does that mean the couch? Cause what is an l shaped bed? No clue, but I just got off a Virgin cruise and they can turn the king bed into a upside down L-shape for "separate" beds or a single and a "couch" It's a bad set up because someone has feet in their face if its separated for sleeping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEZMARYLOU Posted June 29, 2023 #15 Share Posted June 29, 2023 52 minutes ago, georgiaguy said: So why deck seven and eight in some but not all of the porthole verandas? Not saying you are wrong but these are the thing are the things making it a question for me. Also why is it not listed on the symbol key?? lol (I clearly need a vacation...) Yes you do. No idea why it isn't listed on the symbol key. Go to the web site, put in a sample of cabins in the find me cabin box and read the description. You could even create a spread sheet to share the next time the question comes up.😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiaguy Posted June 29, 2023 Author #16 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Ask and you will receive...according to the chat agent it does mean obstructed view. So there you go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Meow2012 Posted June 29, 2023 #17 Share Posted June 29, 2023 On the website of an online travel agency, it shows the triangle as meaning an upper berth on the Summit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebutlerdidit Posted June 30, 2023 #18 Share Posted June 30, 2023 18 hours ago, Cats Meow2012 said: On the website of an online travel agency, it shows the triangle as meaning an upper berth on the Summit. But this question is about the Diamond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WrittenOnYourHeart Posted June 30, 2023 #19 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, Octavias said: Could those be the infinite verandas? Totally guessing here…. No - because there are a lot more IVs than have the diamond. And there are some non-IVs that DO have the diamond. Looking at what I know from past experience - and from studying the chart - which I wish i could find the link to - with obstructions, I'm pretty sure it means there is some percentage of obstruction. ETA: Found it! https://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Celebrity/General_Info/Flyers/EDGE_Percent_Obstructed_View.pdf 22 hours ago, georgiaguy said: Next dumb question. Does that mean the couch? Cause what is an l shaped bed? Not in a solo IV. Only one person is allowed to book that, so there's no need for a couch to convert. Edited June 30, 2023 by WrittenOnYourHeart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare prmssk Posted June 30, 2023 #20 Share Posted June 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, WrittenOnYourHeart said: Looking at what I know from past experience - and from studying the chart - which I wish i could find the link to - with obstructions, I'm pretty sure it means there is some percentage of obstruction. ETA: Found it! https://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Celebrity/General_Info/Flyers/EDGE_Percent_Obstructed_View.pdf The diamond doesn't show up on deck plans for the Edge and Apex (which is what your link references). It only shows up on the Beyond and Ascent deck plans. And the diamond isn't on all the cabins I expect have an obstruction which is puzzling to me. For example the porthole veranda cabins on deck 7 - in some cases a single cabin will have the diamond with the ones around it not having the diamond. And on deck 6, the only infinite verandas with the symbol are the solo cabins. There are more lifeboats than just those two small sections of cabins on each side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WrittenOnYourHeart Posted June 30, 2023 #21 Share Posted June 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, prmssk said: The diamond doesn't show up on deck plans for the Edge and Apex (which is what your link references). It only shows up on the Beyond and Ascent deck plans. And the diamond isn't on all the cabins I expect have an obstruction which is puzzling to me. For example the porthole veranda cabins on deck 7 - in some cases a single cabin will have the diamond with the ones around it not having the diamond. And on deck 6, the only infinite verandas with the symbol are the solo cabins. There are more lifeboats than just those two small sections of cabins on each side. Well, what I do know is looking at those which are solos on Deck 6, 6137 and 6139 - which don't have diamonds - are not on the list and don't have the lifeboat attachments in front of all or part of the IV. The solo IVs that do have it have a percentage of the lifeboat attachments in front of some of the window. I've not seen cruiselines consider a lifeboat directly under a cabin to be an obstruction because your view OUT is still uninterrupted by it. Are we surprised that the website isn't fully informational? They should add what that symbol means - and then add it to the ones that don't have it yet have cabins that would qualify for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayleeman Posted July 1, 2023 #22 Share Posted July 1, 2023 @georgiaguy Just want to note that your OP was NOT a dumb question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Gopher Posted July 6, 2023 #23 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Wish we had a clear answer on this. Specifically related to the porthole verandas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiaguy Posted July 6, 2023 Author #24 Share Posted July 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cruise Gopher said: Wish we had a clear answer on this. Specifically related to the porthole verandas. I did actually. It is referring to obstructed views. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare keesar Posted July 6, 2023 #25 Share Posted July 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, georgiaguy said: I did actually. It is referring to obstructed views. I believe you are correct. An obstructed view may be a lifeboat directed under a room and window washing equipment. We had stayed in a room on the 7th floor which was labelled as being obstructed. If you were to look out towards the horizon, there was no obstruction. However, if you looked slightly down, your view was affected. It did not both us at all but was considered an obstruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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