Venezia returning to NYC in May 2025 to November 2025

[shof515]

3 cruises is going to the new Celebration Key port

[Stick93]

They should keep this ship in Florida. Seems NY didn’t embrace Carnival year round - especially this ship. 
Everyone else is doing great in NY.

[Haljo1935]

2 minutes ago, Stick93 said:

They should keep this ship in Florida. Seems NY didn’t embrace Carnival year round - especially this ship. 
Everyone else is doing great in NY.

Why do you say NY didn't embrace Venezia? Our 13 days in Sept were sold out.

[Cherries Jubilee]

I wish they had tried another winter. People did a lot of complaining but the ship still sold out. 
 

 

[shof515]

7 hours ago, Stick93 said:

They should keep this ship in Florida. Seems NY didn’t embrace Carnival year round - especially this ship. 
Everyone else is doing great in NY.

i wish they rotate the ship every year like what they did in the past. 2025 is the 2nd year the venezia is sailing out of NYC during the summer

 

it would be nice if the magic, horizon or other ships return back to NYC again

[x lindsay x]

Some of those cruises with Celebration Key also have a stop at Half Moon Key. They have GOT to get the drinks package working on those private islands. 

 

Also these listings can not be right. There is no repo cruise from PC to NYC. There is a cruise ending in PC on May 22, and one starting in NYC on May 22. 

[jsglow]

54 minutes ago, x lindsay x said:

Some of those cruises with Celebration Key also have a stop at Half Moon Key. They have GOT to get the drinks package working on those private islands.

Because why exactly? I'll be sure to let the beards know. 

[jimbo5544]

New York has never done well for full year cruising, to many wasted cold days.  Smart move on their part.  The Venezia is a perfect ship for this port.

[LaRue1975]

I have the repositioning cruise to PC booked for December 2024, got a free balcony deal from the casino. I really want to do this cruise but have come to the realization we just can’t at that time of year. Now they are offering it in early November 2025, perfect! I am going to move my booking there even though I don’t have a casino offer, super happy we can still do this cruise! 

[Stick93]

9 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

New York has never done well for full year cruising, to many wasted cold days.  Smart move on their part.  The Venezia is a perfect ship for this port.

Funny as NCL and Royal have had ships in for years and MSC is staying as well. 

The Carnival product seams less desired for older seasoned cruisers that may not be “fun ship” material I guess. A huge population with Canada being driving distance and they cannot fill a ship…. 

[jimbo5544]

44 minutes ago, Stick93 said:

Funny as NCL and Royal have had ships in for years and MSC is staying as well. 

The Carnival product seams less desired for older seasoned cruisers that may not be “fun ship” material I guess. A huge population with Canada being driving distance and they cannot fill a ship…. 

Prob more to do with destinations than cruise line, where does one go as opposed to the others.  Huge population that is smart enough not to get a ship and waste 4 days in the cold…..smart move.

[Stick93]

16 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

Prob more to do with destinations than cruise line, where does one go as opposed to the others.  Huge population that is smart enough not to get a ship and waste 4 days in the cold…..smart move.

Didn’t answer how the other fill ships and Carnival cannot - but that’s okay. Most of the ships cruising go to Florida and Bahamas - nothing great. But filled!

Carnival feels they cannot compete in NY and they’re doing a great job not competing. They probably could skip NY all year. 

[jimbo5544]

3 hours ago, Stick93 said:

Didn’t answer how the other fill ships and Carnival cannot - but that’s okay. Most of the ships cruising go to Florida and Bahamas - nothing great. But filled!

Carnival feels they cannot compete in NY and they’re doing a great job not competing. They probably could skip NY all year. 

NY is a perfect seasonal port for them. Exactly what their clientele wants. NCL and Royal can have the winter months and crappy cruising weather.   I would not go for free those months.  Skip it all together 🤑   Funny. How many US homeports does Carnival have?  Now tell me how many Royal has?  Then lets laugh at how many NCL has.  

[e150club]

15 hours ago, x lindsay x said:

Some of those cruises with Celebration Key also have a stop at Half Moon Key. They have GOT to get the drinks package working on those private islands. 

 

Also these listings can not be right. There is no repo cruise from PC to NYC. There is a cruise ending in PC on May 22, and one starting in NYC on May 22. 

I believe that the cruise from PC to NY is a crew only cruise.  I don't recall what ship it was, but they did that a few years ago for repairs, cleaning ect. Maybe a break for the crew too.

[Stick93]

19 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

NY is a perfect seasonal port for them. Exactly what their clientele wants. NCL and Royal can have the winter months and crappy cruising weather.   I would not go for free those months.  Skip it all together 🤑   Funny. How many US homeports does Carnival have?  Now tell me how many Royal has?  Then lets laugh at how many NCL has.  

Yup compare a modern ship from NY in December to a Fantasy ship out of Jacksonville FL or Mobile Alabama. Carnival is lining their pockets with their endless ports. 

 

[nybumpkin]

20 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

NY is a perfect seasonal port for them. Exactly what their clientele wants. NCL and Royal can have the winter months and crappy cruising weather.   I would not go for free those months.    

I tried NCL out of NYC this past year - end of March, beginning of April. No, thanks - lovely ship, but you want to be outside to really enjoy it and that sure wasn't happening. At least now I can say I tried sometime other than summer in NYC.

[jimbo5544]

1 hour ago, nybumpkin said:

I tried NCL out of NYC this past year - end of March, beginning of April. No, thanks - lovely ship, but you want to be outside to really enjoy it and that sure wasn't happening. At least now I can say I tried sometime other than summer in NYC.

Cannot argue that.

[jimbo5544]

2 hours ago, Stick93 said:

Yup compare a modern ship from NY in December to a Fantasy ship out of Jacksonville FL or Mobile Alabama. Carnival is lining their pockets with their endless ports. 

 

Actually I was comparing Carnival US home ports to RCCL and NCL.  All their ships for all the lines.  Venezia is a excellent fit for New York.  Carnival has the most US home ports (more than RCCL and WAY more than NCL).  That plan means it makes TOTAL sense to take a ship and not sail it from winter ports (leave that from the numbskulls that have no choice)  and move her to where their clients want her to sail from…WARM weather in the winter time.  It does mean that their clients might miss the room stewards shoveling snow off the balconies…..oh darn and two freezing cold days where they have to stay inside - double darn and instead leave the tundra and go to the warm south and enjoy their WHOLE vacation cruise experience in the warm Caribbean sun.  Bingo, we now who chose correctly.  The FUN ships.   

Edited December 15, 2023 by jimbo5544

[jimbo5544]

1 hour ago, nybumpkin said:

I tried NCL out of NYC this past year - end of March, beginning of April. No, thanks - lovely ship, but you want to be outside to really enjoy it and that sure wasn't happening. At least now I can say I tried sometime other than summer in NYC.

We cruised  the Pride the day after Christmas out of Baltimore to do our second NYE cruise, for several reasons.  Do not think we would do that again.   Not a bad experience and DEF off set by the fantastic time for NYE.

[Stick93]

1 hour ago, jimbo5544 said:

Actually I was comparing Carnival US home ports to RCCL and NCL.  All their ships for all the lines.  Venezia is an excellent fit for New York.  Carnival has the most US home ports (more than RCCL and WAY more than NCL).  That plan means it makes TOTAL sense to take a ship and not sail it from winter ports (leave that from the numbskulls that have no choice)  and move her to where their clients want her to sail from…WARM weather in the winter time.  It does mean that their clients might miss the room stewards shoveling snow off the balconies…..oh darn and two freezing cold days where they have to stay inside - double darn and instead leave the tundra and go to the warm south and enjoy their WHOLE vacation cruise experience in the warm Caribbean sun.  Bingo, we now who chose correctly.  The FUN ships.   

As a stock holder of carnival I wish their wise decision on a ship that is literally fit for a colder climate with many affluent customers and millions of people who could drive and cruise,  placing it in a warm climate where they have countless other ships, placing more supply where they have plenty already would translate into a strong business model and a rebound of their stock like let’s say Royal, who has less ports and also has ships that cater to colder climates like the quantum class and their stock is 4-5 times its lowest in Covid. Now obviously placing the Venezia in Florida is not the reason their stock is still in the crapper since Covid but their vast ports, many ships (arguably many in worse shape than Royal and NCL) are not warming Wall Street as much as Caribbean vacation.
 

So… in turn I think if they pulled out of NY nobody would miss them.  I would keep Venezia here in winter and bring a different ship in the summer. Would keep people coming back like Royal and the oasis/quantum switch. 

[CruiseAdict218]

On 12/12/2023 at 11:19 PM, Stick93 said:

They should keep this ship in Florida. Seems NY didn’t embrace Carnival year round - especially this ship. 
Everyone else is doing great in NY.

Did they give it a fair shot though? The year round was pulled before the ship even arrived in NY. 
 

Interestingly enough, poking around other boards, NCL cut back from NY as well, they used to have 2-3 ships almost year round, now they will have 1 ship in the future during the winter. 

 

On 12/13/2023 at 6:23 AM, shof515 said:

i wish they rotate the ship every year like what they did in the past. 2025 is the 2nd year the venezia is sailing out of NYC during the summer

 

it would be nice if the magic, horizon or other ships return back to NYC again

Besides Magic, they rotated the ship that was in its debut season. Horizon, Sunrise, even Mardi Gras at one point, etc. I wouldn’t mind having Vista come back for a season. 

[shof515]

33 minutes ago, CruiseAdict218 said:

Besides Magic, they rotated the ship that was in its debut season. Horizon, Sunrise, even Mardi Gras at one point, etc. I wouldn’t mind having Vista come back for a season. 

Mardi Gras never sailed out of NYC like was originally planned. The NYC sailings was canceled due to all of the construction delays with building the ship. Hopefully they will be a day when the ship or one of its excel class sisters does actually sail out of NYC

[jimbo5544]

1 hour ago, CruiseAdict218 said:

Did they give it a fair shot though? The year round was pulled before the ship even arrived in NY. 
 

Interestingly enough, poking around other boards, NCL cut back from NY as well, they used to have 2-3 ships almost year round, now they will have 1 ship in the future during the winter. 

 

Besides Magic, they rotated the ship that was in its debut season. Horizon, Sunrise, even Mardi Gras at one point, etc. I wouldn’t mind having Vista come back for a season. 

Carnival has sailed over half a dozen cruise ships out of NY seasonally.  At least three times they have had ships sail year round.  While NCL and Royal are more….dedicated (shall we say), Carnival concentrates more on breadth of home ports as opposed to dedicated ships.  The ports are limited for colder months (cannot go north, Bermuda is out, cold days of travel south (at least two each way), rough seas, etc, etc..  Way more lines follow this plan as opposed to year round.

[CruiseAdict218]

5 hours ago, shof515 said:

Mardi Gras never sailed out of NYC like was originally planned. The NYC sailings was canceled due to all of the construction delays with building the ship. Hopefully they will be a day when the ship or one of its excel class sisters does actually sail out of NYC

Yes, that’s what I meant should have been more specific, I was booked on the original T/A. Would love if they swung one up here for a summer season, seeing as it can be done. One can hope. 

 

[EllieinNJ]

I am booked on the 12 day Journey cruise on the Venezia for February, 2024 and am looking so forward to it.  Not having to worry about flying anywhere in the winter is so comforting, especially reading about delayed and cancelled flights at this time of year. 

 

Unfortunately we have such a limited variety of ships out of NY/NJ.  We have done most of them and would love it if different ships rotated here.  Our first Carnival ship was to be the Sunrise to Bermuda from NY back in 2020 but that was cancelled because of the pandemic and then she was never again scheduled for a NY sailing.  We did miss the Magic out of NY because of several other cruises already scheduled.