Rare jimbo5544 Posted June 14 #226 Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, BlerkOne said: They have had promotions for some time, but Covid brought them to a new level. New level is an understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted June 14 #227 Share Posted June 14 45 minutes ago, Colorado Beach Bum said: Only when they find something that generates more revenue. Offers are still coming so it hasn’t happened yet. It is a dangerous tightrope they are walking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted June 14 #228 Share Posted June 14 On 6/12/2024 at 10:03 AM, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Agreed - though I'll add that there's some "special feeling" when you take the $25 they give you (well, $50 - Cheryl gives me hers) and run it up to $500-$1,000+ at BJ. Now, if one could just walk away at that point... if only... Tom Hahahaha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted June 14 #229 Share Posted June 14 On 6/12/2024 at 11:17 AM, BlerkOne said: I'd bet a most aren't unless perhaps one of the casino party cruises. But the $25 credit, like the tournaments, were just promotions. Promotions come and go. I will be interesting to see what comes from the agreement with Bally's. Personally, I'm kind of curious what Bally's is going to offer Diamonds. I'm glad that Carnival has finally figured out many gamblers are no shows and are adding penalties for that. Hope springs eternal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 14 #230 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: It is a dangerous tightrope they are walking With ships sailing full, they no longer need to give away $10 to earn $11. Better to let everyone pay for cabins. The casinos will still be full, but this time with paying customers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasdan Posted June 14 #231 Share Posted June 14 doesn't the casino pay Carnival the room fare and pay for the free drinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mz-s Posted June 14 #232 Share Posted June 14 10 minutes ago, dallasdan said: doesn't the casino pay Carnival the room fare and pay for the free drinks? Please don't interrupt the rant against the casino. This will be your only warning. (just joking!) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 14 #233 Share Posted June 14 3 hours ago, dallasdan said: doesn't the casino pay Carnival the room fare and pay for the free drinks? Allegedly, and certainly not prevailing rates. Are individual rates higher than group rates? A rhetorical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mz-s Posted June 14 #234 Share Posted June 14 21 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Allegedly, and certainly not prevailing rates. Are individual rates higher than group rates? A rhetorical question. As you asserted earlier, the casino is not Carnival. So if Carnival was unhappy with the arrangement, they could presumably change it at any time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 14 #235 Share Posted June 14 29 minutes ago, mz-s said: As you asserted earlier, the casino is not Carnival. So if Carnival was unhappy with the arrangement, they could presumably change it at any time. I don't know that Carnival Cruise Line could. Corp could. Corp could also outsource casino operations if they fail to meet desired ROI. A number of posters here and other internet sources have complained about reductions in casino offers. Perhaps it has already started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard_eight Posted June 14 #236 Share Posted June 14 They certainly aren't as juicy as they were. Haven't been onboard since Nov. We'll see if they pick up after next month. Sail on 7/6... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mz-s Posted June 14 #237 Share Posted June 14 20 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: I don't know that Carnival Cruise Line could. Corp could. Corp could also outsource casino operations if they fail to meet desired ROI. A number of posters here and other internet sources have complained about reductions in casino offers. Perhaps it has already started. I'm still getting free rooms, invites to branded cruises, etc., so the offer reduction isn't felt for me yet. I'm not a high roller so I don't typically get free play offers to begin with, so I can't say if those are drying up or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted June 14 #238 Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, hard_eight said: They certainly aren't as juicy as they were. Haven't been onboard since Nov. We'll see if they pick up after next month. Sail on 7/6... That's true - at one point they were giving either OBC or Freeplay up to $2,000 along with the room. Now most seem to max out at about $500. Tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted June 14 #239 Share Posted June 14 I remember when they did those tournaments and personally I enjoyed them. Once I almost won, came in 2nd. I think I just got a size small shirt but still fun. I dont have strong feelings about losing the $25. I did go into the casino in January and got my $25. Most unlucky ever. I never lost money so fast lol. I knew I should look for that german heidi machine I'm lucky on but coukdnt find it ... saw it later. I enjoyed the tournaments more so this is kinda easy come easy go. Royal only says gives you $6 but if you go in to play within 24 hours it turns into $8. So to me $25 was super generous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingFamily2005 Posted June 14 #240 Share Posted June 14 I just got off Luminosa last week and they still giving the $25 in the casino. They put it in your sail/sign card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icft Posted June 14 #241 Share Posted June 14 16 minutes ago, firefly333 said: I remember when they did those tournaments and personally I enjoyed them. Once I almost won, came in 2nd. I think I just got a size small shirt but still fun. I dont have strong feelings about losing the $25. I did go into the casino in January and got my $25. Most unlucky ever. I never lost money so fast lol. I knew I should look for that german heidi machine I'm lucky on but coukdnt find it ... saw it later. I enjoyed the tournaments more so this is kinda easy come easy go. Royal only says gives you $6 but if you go in to play within 24 hours it turns into $8. So to me $25 was super generous. My wife used to always enter the free slot tournaments that came with diamond. She badgered me until one cruise I entered. I won and got this ship on a stick and a free cruise and entry to a big tournament - a couple of hundred thousand jackpot or some such. We went on that tournament cruise and it was one of our least favorite cruises. Everyone on the ship was a slot fanatic. You could not find an open slot machine until about midnight. To top it off I was out of the "big" tournament the first day of the seven day cruise. Ever since we avoid tournaments and tournament cruises. We keep looking for a cruise hosting a Southern Baptist convention. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Beach Bum Posted June 14 #242 Share Posted June 14 22 hours ago, BlerkOne said: With ships sailing full, they no longer need to give away $10 to earn $11. Better to let everyone pay for cabins. The casinos will still be full, but this time with paying customers. Do we know if they are only earning what say above? Didn’t someone mention earlier that rooms alone are losing money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Beach Bum Posted June 14 #243 Share Posted June 14 10 hours ago, dallasdan said: doesn't the casino pay Carnival the room fare and pay for the free drinks? It’s all the same company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Beach Bum Posted June 14 #244 Share Posted June 14 4 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: That's true - at one point they were giving either OBC or Freeplay up to $2,000 along with the room. Now most seem to max out at about $500. Tom But they certainly haven’t dried up or even lessened. Maybe slightly lees free play but still plenty of free rooms (net deposit and OBC) on every cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted June 14 #245 Share Posted June 14 2 hours ago, icft said: ...We keep looking for a cruise hosting a Southern Baptist convention. They probably play more than the average Joe, when they don't think others are looking... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 14 #246 Share Posted June 14 16 minutes ago, Colorado Beach Bum said: Do we know if they are only earning what say above? Didn’t someone mention earlier that rooms alone are losing money? We don't know anything about Carnival Corp components, including whether or not the casino pays for rooms or other comps, or how much. Each Carnival component is run as a separate business and Corp expects each to turn a profit. It is absurd to try to lump them together and say it is all the same company. That isn't how a legitimate business operates. I get almost daily emails from the casino. Not interested in "free" inside staterooms or Australia, and it seems like most cruises are a year or more out. Clearly Carnival doesn't lose money on cabins or they would have been out of business a long time ago. I think it is also clear that there are cutbacks in casino offers, and more competition for those cabins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 14 #247 Share Posted June 14 26 minutes ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: They probably play more than the average Joe, when they don't think others are looking... and drink more, ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinoisfive Posted June 15 #248 Share Posted June 15 2 hours ago, BlerkOne said: We don't know anything about Carnival Corp components, including whether or not the casino pays for rooms or other comps, or how much. Each Carnival component is run as a separate business and Corp expects each to turn a profit. It is absurd to try to lump them together and say it is all the same company. That isn't how a legitimate business operates. I get almost daily emails from the casino. Not interested in "free" inside staterooms or Australia, and it seems like most cruises are a year or more out. Clearly Carnival doesn't lose money on cabins or they would have been out of business a long time ago. I think it is also clear that there are cutbacks in casino offers, and more competition for those cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinoisfive Posted June 15 #249 Share Posted June 15 Just now, illinoisfive said: so let me understand what you are saying.... Carnival doesn't run its business like a legitmate business operates? how so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 15 #250 Share Posted June 15 59 minutes ago, illinoisfive said: so let me understand what you are saying.... Carnival doesn't run its business like a legitmate business operates? how so? I'm saying the opposite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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