Utopia tentative entertainment/activity

[nelblu]

Tentatively,

[gumshoe958]

So if true, definitely no Broadway musical. And only one production show. I guess no need for two on 3 & 4 night itineraries, but still a significant cutback.

[Merion_Mom]

19 minutes ago, gumshoe958 said:

So if true, definitely no Broadway musical. And only one production show. I guess no need for two on 3 & 4 night itineraries, but still a significant cutback.

 

Aqua show 

Comedy Club 

Production show.

 

3 shows. 

 

3 & 4 night cruises. 

 

Not a cutback. 

 

Covers the bases.

[gumshoe958]

4 minutes ago, Merion_Mom said:

 

Aqua show 

Comedy Club 

Production show.

 

3 shows. 

 

3 & 4 night cruises. 

 

Not a cutback. 

 

Covers the bases.

Every other Oasis class ship has two production shows (one of which may or may not be a Broadway musical).

 

So yes, a cutback.

[RFerrington]

Nothing available on the Cruise Planner yet....at least, not on our September sailings.

[Jumping Cruiser]

45 minutes ago, gumshoe958 said:

Every other Oasis class ship has two production shows (one of which may or may not be a Broadway musical).

 

So yes, a cutback.

However, the majority of these ships are designed for longer cruises. Oasis class has only recently switched to short sailings and Utopia was the first designed fully for these types of sailings. I wouldn’t be surprised if they added an additional show if her itineraries ever become 5 days+, but it doesn’t make sense at this stage.

[Merion_Mom]

1 hour ago, gumshoe958 said:

Every other Oasis class ship has two production shows (one of which may or may not be a Broadway musical).

 

So yes, a cutback.

 

Every other Oasis class ship has been sailing 7+ night cruises.

[Merion_Mom]

1 hour ago, gumshoe958 said:

Every other Oasis class ship has two production shows (one of which may or may not be a Broadway musical).

 

So yes, a cutback.

 

Ok, more.

 

Those other Oasis class ships do NOT have seven shows for seven night cruises.  Utopia will have 3 shows for 3 night cruises.

 

😄 

[TheHawk1]

Most of the so-called shows are actually audience participation, e.g. Crazy Quest, Friendly Feud, Majority Rules, Battle of the Sexes, etc.  It seems Royal is counting on its customers to basically entertain each other now, rather than invest in real entertainment experiences.

[twangster]

Oasis class doing short Florida is a challenge for a Broadway production show where the theater needs to be shared with many other activities.

 

On longer cruises they make it work.  Allure has struggled on short FL trying to get MammaMIA! and Blue Planet both squeezed into a short sailing.  It's proven way too much on turning the theater between shows and on the cast.  

 

It also means there is one night for such a show and that means it's hard to accommodate 6,500 guests.  Guests complain when they can't make it all work due to so much going on.  Oasis class was originally designed for seven nights and each production show had two nights with two showings so a total of four times for each show.  That just isn't possible on a three night cruise.  

[OCSC Mike]

20 minutes ago, TheHawk1 said:

It seems Royal is counting on its customers to basically entertain each other now, rather than invest in real entertainment experiences.

3 big shows plus comedy for a ship designed to do 3 & 4N cruises. How much staged entertainment does one need?

[Vibe]

1 hour ago, Merion_Mom said:

 

Every other Oasis class ship has been sailing 7+ night cruises.

The Allure 4 day has been performing both Mamma Mia and Blue Planet.

[la_croisiere_s'amuse]

23 minutes ago, Vibe said:

The Allure 4 day has been performing both Mamma Mia and Blue Planet.

True, but as explained in post #10 above, it has proven to be challenging. I wouldn't be surprised if they cut one of them if they plan to keep Allure on the 3/4 rotation. 

I'm also of the opinion that an Aqua Theater show, an ice show and a production show are plenty for a 3-4 night itinerary. Especially when you add in the other comedy/audience participation shows.

 

Edited June 18 by la_croisiere_s'amuse

[Vibe]

Just now, la_croisiere_s'amuse said:

True, but as explained in post #4 above, it has proven to be challenging. I wouldn't be surprised if they cut one of them if they plan to keep Allure on the 3/4 rotation. 

I'm also of the opinion that an Aqua Theater show, an ice show and a production show are plenty for a 3-4 night itinerary. Especially when you add in the other comedy/audience participation shows.

I agree.  I am going on three 4 day Utopia cruises within the next few months.  
 

It was nice that the Allure had the extra theater show. Made a 4 day cruise packed with wonderful entertainment.

[Vibe]

3 hours ago, RFerrington said:

Nothing available on the Cruise Planner yet....at least, not on our September sailings.

Not for August either 

[RFerrington]

5 minutes ago, Vibe said:

Not for August either 

😪

[TheHawk1]

3 hours ago, la_croisiere_s'amuse said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they cut one of them if they plan to keep Allure on the 3/4 rotation. 

Now there’s an idea.  They should keep Allure doing the short itinerary cruises and move their better shows over to Utopia.  Why Royal is putting their newest ship on duty for weekend booze cruises with accompanying cheap entertainment is beyond me.

[Jumping Cruiser]

5 hours ago, TheHawk1 said:

Now there’s an idea.  They should keep Allure doing the short itinerary cruises and move their better shows over to Utopia.  Why Royal is putting their newest ship on duty for weekend booze cruises with accompanying cheap entertainment is beyond me.

There’s one answer… 💵💵💵

 

3/4 nights are far more profitable and carry a higher pppd price tag than longer cruises. Lately, Royal have become all about the money, so this is the most important thing for them and is why they have chosen this deployment. 

[twangster]

11 hours ago, Vibe said:

The Allure 4 day has been performing both Mamma Mia and Blue Planet.

 

They cut MammaMIA! on my recent sailing.  As I walked up to the theater they were there informing guests it wouldn't be offered.  Blue Planet was the only show on that occasion.  

 

I believe they are listening to the cast and stage crew on Allure and using that to form the options for Utopia.

 

Edited June 19 by twangster

[Vibe]

2 hours ago, twangster said:

 

They cut MammaMIA! on my recent sailing.  As I walked up to the theater they were there informing guests it wouldn't be offered.  Blue Planet was the only show on that occasion.  

 

I believe they are listening to the cast and stage crew on Allure and using that to form the options for Utopia.

 

There has been a recent change of cast for the theater shows on the Allure.  Possible reason.

[twangster]

10 hours ago, TheHawk1 said:

Now there’s an idea.  They should keep Allure doing the short itinerary cruises and move their better shows over to Utopia.  Why Royal is putting their newest ship on duty for weekend booze cruises with accompanying cheap entertainment is beyond me.

 

New to cruise is the hottest segment of mass market cruising right now.

 

Royal is placing Utopia to maximize revenue.  

[nelblu]

25 minutes ago, twangster said:

Royal is placing Utopia to maximize revenue.

I was really surprised that I got an upgrade on Utopia from interior to OV balcony for $67 & $103 respectively for a 3-4 nites thru the Casino.  Conversely, it cost me $820 (solo) to upgrade  Odysseyfrom an interior to an OV balcony.

Edited June 19 by nelblu

[twangster]

5 minutes ago, nelblu said:

I was really surprised that I got an upgrade on Utopia from interior to OV balcony for $67 & $103 respectively for a 3-4 nites thru the Casino.  Conversely, it cost me $820 (solo) to upgrade  Odysseyfrom an interior to an OV balcony.

 

I got a balcony comp in September on Utopia for the lowest level free casino cruise cert.   

 

Just cost me port fees and taxes.  

 

However September is generally considered an off peak month in the prime of hurricane season so maybe it's a slow month for short Florida mega bookings.  

[nelblu]

4 minutes ago, twangster said:

 

I got a balcony comp in September on Utopia for the lowest level free casino cruise cert.   

 

Just cost me port fees and taxes.  

 

However September is generally considered an off peak month in the prime of hurricane season so maybe it's a slow month for short Florida mega bookings.  

Mine was one was the primary was free and the 2nd pays.  It cost me $1,120 and inclusive of $400 in T&F.  Heck, it cost me more to fly 6-7 hours R/T from Newark as compared to 7 nights of fun and inclusive of food and entertainment.

[FishOn55]

On 6/18/2024 at 4:27 PM, Merion_Mom said:

 

Aqua show 

Comedy Club 

Production show.

 

3 shows. 

 

3 & 4 night cruises. 

 

Not a cutback. 

 

Covers the bases.

Is there no ice show scheduled for Utopia?