Rare jimbo5544 Posted 16 hours ago #51 Share Posted 16 hours ago (edited) On 9/26/2024 at 3:11 PM, sparks1093 said: He's probably tired of it and has posted many times in similar threads. Ships are wired differently then buildings are, it all comes down to that. As I understand it the problem is in the surge protector, not the power strip itself, so if one had a power strip that isn't protected it should be allowed (but still might be confiscated). Agree with all you say, but the tack that RCCL takes is an aggressive one. Edited 16 hours ago by jimbo5544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted 16 hours ago #52 Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, firefly333 said: These are banned. The only kind allowed as someone earlier said are cubes where you plug in usb plugs. ..the ones like this where you can plug in a plug are banned. My problem is I just bought a cube, a power converter for my Europe hotel room. Still new in the box to plug things into in rome. Converters also apparently are banned. I dont even plan on using it on the ship. So the problem is more complicated. .. but the ones allowed are cubes where you only plug in usb ends... not regular plugs .. at least right now. I think royal needs to back off. This is a step too far. Banning power converter cubes. If they take I I will have to get off and retrieve it. I'm on for 2 legs to complicate retrieving a confiscated item. The pictured one is banned. No, it isn't. I use one. It is not a surge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare aborgman Posted 16 hours ago #53 Share Posted 16 hours ago 34 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Nope. Not all of them. True - a (not used in homes or ships) 240V, 3 phase circuit would be 4 or 5 wires. ...but a code compliant, single phase, 120/240V will have 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted 16 hours ago #54 Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, aborgman said: True - a (not used in homes or ships) 240V, 3 phase circuit would be 4 or 5 wires. ...but a code compliant, single phase, 120/240V will have 3. Moving goal posts? >>> True - but both ignores that every 120/240V circuit has three wires Typically 3, but could also be 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare aborgman Posted 14 hours ago #55 Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, BlerkOne said: Typically 3, but could also be 2. Not since a few years before I was born, and I'm 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted 14 hours ago #56 Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 22 minutes ago, aborgman said: Not since a few years before I was born, and I'm 50. New construction required a ground wire since sometime in the early 60’s. Older construction might not have a ground wire. So every circuit might not have 3 wires. Edited 14 hours ago by Charles4515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted 14 hours ago #57 Share Posted 14 hours ago 21 minutes ago, aborgman said: Not since a few years before I was born, and I'm 50. Well, all I can say is that when I moved into my present house (built in 1820's) in the 1980's, not only did we have ungrounded circuits, but tube and knob wiring. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted 14 hours ago #58 Share Posted 14 hours ago A circuit is a closed loop through which current can flow. A ground, while safer, is not required to fit the definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond-56-Plus Posted 13 hours ago #59 Share Posted 13 hours ago I guess this is a part of the home-schooling class for Cruise Critic 😎. Please people be careful with what power strips you bring aboard. I'm thinking portable fans should be the next subject for the class.😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted 13 hours ago #60 Share Posted 13 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Diamond-56-Plus said: I guess this is a part of the home-schooling class for Cruise Critic 😎. Please people be careful with what power strips you bring aboard. I'm thinking portable fans should be the next subject for the class.😉 Many fans were seized on our recent cruise. Including new in box and portable. If in checked luggage and it had a cord, bye bye. Battery powered was okay. For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted 12 hours ago #61 Share Posted 12 hours ago 21 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Many fans were seized on our recent cruise. Including new in box and portable. If in checked luggage and it had a cord, bye bye. Battery powered was okay. For now. On the Spirit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted 11 hours ago #62 Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 48 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: On the Spirit? Yes. The rules also say fans are supposed to be in carry ons. Edited 11 hours ago by BlerkOne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted 11 hours ago #63 Share Posted 11 hours ago 9 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Yes. The rules also say fans are supposed to be in carry ons. I replied to soon before actually reading your post…..thought you were saying they were confiscating extension cords also, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureMan_2000 Posted 10 hours ago Author #64 Share Posted 10 hours ago Y'all talk like you understand how grounding works. Other than chengkp75 who is actually an Engineer on a ship, everyone else's opinion here is suspect. Grounding is actually not that straightforward as it depends on the circuit, the grounding requirements for the specific line or device, the item or appliance plugged in, and many more considerations. Grounding on transformer lines is engineered different than at a house, or on an appliance. The same will hold true on a ship. I defer to chengkp75. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted 4 hours ago #65 Share Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, VentureMan_2000 said: Y'all talk like you understand how grounding works. Other than chengkp75 who is actually an Engineer on a ship, everyone else's opinion here is suspect. Just to be clear, I don't really disagree with what @aborgman has said, he has parsed some of my comments, as I have his, but these are based on our personal experiences (for instance, I doubt he has any experience with old equipment or systems like we have in the Northeast, or at sea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare aborgman Posted 2 hours ago #66 Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 hours ago, Charles4515 said: New construction required a ground wire since sometime in the early 60’s. Older construction might not have a ground wire. So every circuit might not have 3 wires. 1971 is when the NEC required it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare aborgman Posted 1 hour ago #67 Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Just to be clear, I don't really disagree with what @aborgman has said, he has parsed some of my comments, as I have his, but these are based on our personal experiences (for instance, I doubt he has any experience with old equipment or systems like we have in the Northeast, or at sea. Sadly, I've got LOTS of experience with ancient equipment. Our wind tunnel is driven by a motor-generator set that is built from Westinghouse generators that came out of the Detroit streetcar system - the newer of the two is from 1909. Incoming feed is 660V at ~1500A. ...but none of that old stuff is legal for a public accommodation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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