Adult-only Cruises

[caviargal]

adults only would be the same form of discrimination- check the law books-

 

I go to adult only resorts all the time. Sandals is a widely known and popular chain of resorts for adults as is Couples and several others.

 

And there are adult only cruises available now on a P&O ship, all sailings, all the time.

[Guest cvbart]

I think if there is an "adult only" cruise there should also be a "family only" cruise.....or maybe a "50 and under" cruise.....what will be next?QUOTE]

 

Sounds good to me!!

 

A jeans only cruise:)

[Guest cvbart]

I go to adult only resorts all the time. Sandals is a widely known and popular chain of resorts for adults as is Couples and several others.

 

And there are adult only cruises available now on a P&O ship, all sailings, all the time.

 

Which means the adult only crowd has places to go.

[Guest cvbart]

I thought celebrity did one or two a year? Maybe I'm wrong. :confused:

 

 

speaking of age discrimination, I was putting an ad in the news paper for "apartment for rent" I told them to put adult only and the operator told me they could not publish that because of age discrimination. What? an apartment? I had to tell the callers that it was adult only. I was hoping to thin the volume of calls..................couldnt do it..

 

I think this is against the law here in California.

[caviargal]

Which means the adult only crowd has places to go.

 

We sure do:D!

 

And there are still some lines out there that do not attract families and even enforce their dress codes. We go there as well.:)

[ccletzgo]

Seriously- do you not understand? Age discrimination is excluding someone because of AGE no matter what age you are excluding!

 

By the way, that came from my 13 year old daughter, whose intelligence and manners would rival yours any day!

 

Enjoy your adults only cruise....

 

 

So does that mean under 21 year olds SHOULD be allowed in Bars and night clubs. They certainly are not allowed where I live........;)

 

I just wish the cruise lines would set some kind of ratio. Adult to children ratio. I have been on some holiday cruises where the kids completely took over the ship. You couldn't get near the pool. It was FULL of every kind of floaty toy and raft you can imagine. :eek:

[ccletzgo]

 

A jeans only cruise:)

 

LOL made me laugh. I think there is are two cruise lines like that..:D

[PhinsAndGills]

DH and I have loved every cruise we've taken on RCCL, but our next cruise will be on Windjammer Barefoot cruises for a few reasons. (Won't go into that now, that's a completely different thread...) They have a "Pirate Week" that is adults only in August (teachers: it's Aug. 13th, still time to get back before school! WOOHOO!) and surprisingly enough, if you know the right channels, CHEAPER than an RCCL cruise of the same length that same week. So check around. Unfortunatly, if you're looking for a cruise without kids you won't sail RCCL, but no-kids cruises are out there, just hard to find. Good Luck!

[bplazo]

They should just raise the rates on 3rd and 4th passengers.

[Arizona Cruz Chic]

This has been suggested over and over but RC isn't listening or isn't willing to give it a try.

 

I wish they would at least entertain the idea of making one 7 nt cruise an adults only just to see how popular it is. I think it would sell out in a heartbeat...just like their new 14 day round trip to Hawaii out of CA. and those sold out in a matter of days!

 

So there is a market for it, they just haven't tested the waters for it. :D

 

 

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[cruiseco]

HOw can that be- they have adults only resorts and have never heard of any lawsuit about that.

 

The popular adults-only resorts like Sandals, SuperClubs, Couples and others are all foreign-owned and none have properties in the US. They don't have to comply with our domestic discrimination laws. That's why you'll never see a Sandals on US territory -- not only do they bar minors but they also bar gays and lesbians under their male/female couples only rule.

[cruisnfool]

I have sailed Carnival 5 times and would most likely not return.....I enjoyed them all but feel that RCI is a step above....classier looking ships...more of an age mix that sets the tone for a more manageable crowd. We found that the night spots were so packed and noisy on Carnival that you couldn't even have a conversation. On RCI the age range breaks that up.

 

We always cruise during school so have not had much problem with kids....occasional playing in elevators or running down hall seeing how far the walkie talkies will work.....but I can see peoples concerns......mustang said it well....more and more families are cruising and parents are letting the kids run wild......the cruislines will have to get better at making the parents responsible.

 

I am not in support of discrimination because all ages can bring fun to cruising.....I also think kids should be exposed to cruising they just need to be disciplined.

[katiel53]

I don't think there has to be an adults only cruise, although I probably would want to try one. I think if RCCL just followed their own rules, ie, no children in solarium, Quest and whatever places are for adults only, it would make a lot of adults happier.

 

I love seeing young children on a cruise. They are so excited and open to everything. I don't like seeing young children in the pool with swimmies on because MOM feels my child is special.

 

Kids do belong on cruises, and I think most of the problems are caused by parents, not kids. There are too many parents who feel that they are on vacation and the cruiseline needs to take care of their children while they do whatever they want.

 

I just wish parents would accept responsibility for their kids and as some posters on other threads have said, they enjoy having their kids on cruises. They are still parents. Kids are part of the family vacation and if all parents who take kids felt that way, I don't think an adults only cruise would be necessary. I am also speaking about teens when I say parents need to know what's going on. To let any child run the ship is wrong. End of my rant!

[lv2cruisgrl]

We sure do:D!

 

And there are still some lines out there that do not attract families and even enforce their dress codes. We go there as well.:)

 

caviargal - what cruise ships do you like that are kidless and enforce dress codes?

[BevMoney]

There are chartered cruises that are sometimes adult only. For example, the Tom Joyner Foundation, which has been chartering a RCL ship Memorial Day week for the past 5 years is adult (21 &) only.

 

There is no special membership needed to travel but it extremely pricey because its a scholarship benefit cruise for college students. There is tons of B- list music and celebrity talent each night and theme parties.

 

One pro is that its partially tax deductible.

[Treven]

I gather that since the Atlantis cruises are charters, they can stipulate - NO ONE under 18 allowed - period. And I'm SO glad!!

[zotzer]

Well all....I must say this.... as a 40 year old, childless, single woman. Freedom of the Seas has done an incredible job of separating the little kids from the big kids (adults)....so that everyone actually prefers to be in their appropriate "zone". They even had a "family quest" one night! I hope the word gets out, as I'd imagine this will help with those who feel quest is so much fun, their children should be there. Well...now they have their own, child-friendly version.

 

They even shut down the disco to adults one night, to have a teen party....and substituted with a new "twenty" party in the Solarium and an "after hours" at Olive or Twist.

 

I'll be back on in Dec, when the rates are less expensive, and more kids are bound to be a reality, and will be happy to report back. I must say though....I was a happy camper on Freedom! A+ for RCI's extraordinary efforts to make it a vacation that makes a wide range of demographics perfectly happy.

 

Tracy

[beachchick]

Regarding "age discrimination": Kids must be 3 y/o and potty trained to go to AO; Solarium and a few other places are restricted to 16 and older; casino, discos, and bars = 18 and over; drinking = 18 or 21 and over (depending on type of alcohol); no one under 21 can book a cabin on his/her own (with a few specific exceptions). And etc.

 

So, really there are all kinds of age rules that are set up. If RCI chose to do so, they could designate specific cruises (say one or two per year, per ship) as adults only. These cruises could be during the times when school is likely to be in session even (although, that would be discriminating against adult school teachers who couldn't take advantage of the cruise dates...) IMO, one of the reasons Renaissance went bankrupt is that their cruise itineraries were far more limited than some of the larger cruise lines. Some people just don't want to do the same cruise over and over.

 

As a matter of fact, there are many "over 55" and senior housing communities all over the US. So, "age discrimination" is simply a fact of life--However, I don't agree that it's "discrimination" to have limitations, requirements, and restrictions on certain activities. What, we should let 8 y/o's drive because otherwise it's "discrimination"? That's just silly. It's also silly to think that a few cruises for adults amounts to discriminating against children. I can't go into AO; should I complain? Of course not.

 

Considering the number of adults just on these forums who have asked the same question, I do not believe they would have trouble filling the ships for an occassional adults only cruise.

 

beachchick

[bguppies]

Having a "family only" cruise wouldn't bother me...I just wouldn't go.

 

Actually, it isn't so much that I don't like the kids - it's the parents that let the kids loose to run wild that annoys me. If the kids weren't raised right, then they just don't know any better way to behave. Isn't necessarily the kids fault.

 

My Wife and I are doing our best to avoid the kids.

Scheduling our cruise for mid-September, looking for day passes in ports at hotels that either don't allow kids or don't tolerate ill behaved kids.

 

We just want a week of peace and quiet and relaxation. Which nobody gets on any vacation where any decent sized group of children are around.

 

Sadly our own Nieces and Nephews fall into the above category.

Which irritates me, as I know my siblings remember how our Father wouldn't tolerate such ill behavior, yet they continue being lenient with the kids and watch them devolve year after year into questionable behavior and then have the nerve to ask, why?!?!?!?

(I go out of my way to compliment parents when we do see extremely polite and well behaved kids in public. These days, those parents deserve a medal.)

 

We would definitely be onboard for an adult only cruise to anywhere.....

 

Bill

[caviargal]

My Wife and I are doing our best to avoid the kids.

Scheduling our cruise for mid-September, looking for day passes in ports at hotels that either don't allow kids or don't tolerate ill behaved kids.

 

We just want a week of peace and quiet and relaxation. Which nobody gets on any vacation where any decent sized group of children are around.

 

 

We would definitely be onboard for an adult only cruise to anywhere.....

 

Bill

 

We do the same in ports, just buy a day pass for an adult AI and it is great! We have a completely kid free day and there are generally no other cruise ship passengers there as well.

 

The ports these days are so crowded with many ships in port, it is a zoo:(.

 

We also will generally stay aboard in some ports (like St. Thomas) which are forgettable for us but popular for others, and have the ship almost to ourselves.

 

lovrccl: HAL enforced the dress code last cruise. We had four gentlemen in our party denied entrance on a semi formal night to the specialty restaurant. They all went back and got jackets.

 

Oceana, Crystal, RSSC all do not market to families and there are far few on X and the non Vista class ships of HAL. P&O's Arcadia is always child free.

 

You find the most kids on RCI, NCL and Carnival. And of course Disney.

[lynn247]

crusinmama06 - - - why do you say that you'll probably never cruise on Carnival ? The reason I ask is that we're going on our 1st cruise with Carnival - - anything I should know ?

 

We cruised the Carnival Legend in 2005 & 2006 end of June, start of July and enjoyed ourselves very much. The aft pool was adults only, NEVER saw a child there. :D I only saw one incident involving a misbehaving child. (Parent?) :( This boy, about 7 or 8, was walking and running around the edge of the pool (the shallow area of the center pool) splashing anyone else sitting there. Security went over to him 3 times and very quietly spoke to the child. The third time security approached him, his mother came over and started to yell in the face of this poor security guard. He stood there and took her verbal abuse. She then went, and must have gotten his supervisor. She was out for blood. Whatever was said after that, she YANKED this child by the arm and left. Her Husband then came to the pool and very loudly started to complain :eek: and then sarted on this security guard again. We left, so I don't know the outcome.

 

We were on the Celebrity Zenith to Bermuda in 1995, and had a large family of kids, fighting in the hallways every night, also banging on doors, waking everybody up. If security said anything to them, it was ignored. That was the first cruise we took without our children. Our children are now adults.

[lv2cruisgrl]

We do the same in ports, just buy a day pass for an adult AI and it is great! We have a completely kid free day and there are generally no other cruise ship passengers there as well.

 

The ports these days are so crowded with many ships in port, it is a zoo:(.

 

We also will generally stay aboard in some ports (like St. Thomas) which are forgettable for us but popular for others, and have the ship almost to ourselves.

 

lovrccl: HAL enforced the dress code last cruise. We had four gentlemen in our party denied entrance on a semi formal night to the specialty restaurant. They all went back and got jackets.

 

Oceana, Crystal, RSSC all do not market to families and there are far few on X and the non Vista class ships of HAL. P&O's Arcadia is always child free.

 

You find the most kids on RCI, NCL and Carnival. And of course Disney.

thanks for the info, we have 3 more cruises scheduled on RCCL, they are times when kids are in school but have found many parents take their kids out especially if they are small. Then we find them in the hot tubs, running amuck, etc. so if we are not happy after we do these next 3 we may switch to a Cunard or Crystal. :rolleyes:

[MGoBlue2]

The popular adults-only resorts like Sandals, SuperClubs, Couples and others are all foreign-owned and none have properties in the US. They don't have to comply with our domestic discrimination laws. That's why you'll never see a Sandals on US territory -- not only do they bar minors but they also bar gays and lesbians under their male/female couples only rule.

The Banana Bay Resort in Key West is adults-only (although I doubt it bars gays or lesbians).

[MGoBlue2]

I gather that since the Atlantis cruises are charters, they can stipulate - NO ONE under 18 allowed - period. And I'm SO glad!!

Contrary to popular (and inaccurate) opinion on this thread, any cruise line can have adults only cruises if they choose, and Celebrity has had them several times in the past and still advertises that they have them - but don't have any currently scheduled.

 

The problem with Atlantis charters is that the mainstream hetero couple might feel a little out of place.

[katiel53]

My understanding as to why Renaissance Cruises went bankrupt is that at one point they felt they didn't need Travel Agents to do business and refused to pay any commissions to them. After a while, when their bookings dropped to practically nothing, they realized that they did need agents to book their cruises. Travel Agents felt that there was no need to book Renaissance (unless a client specifically asked for them and usually the agent did his/her best to discourage those ships.)

 

Consequently, with agents boycotting Renaissance, and not having clients directly book them, they went bankrupt. This is what I was told years ago when I was a Travel Agent.