possumcat Posted December 27, 2006 #1 Share Posted December 27, 2006 My husband and I are going on a cruise out of Seattle in May to Alaska. This is our second cruise and have decided to go with Holland America (this will be our first Holland America cruise, our first cruise was with Princess). We are trying to decide between two ships: the Amsterdam and the Noordam . They have similar itineraries. We would appreciate any help deciding between the two. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruznon Posted December 27, 2006 #2 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Well, for us we'd take the Noordam. I've heard she's beautiful and there are many veranda cabins on the Noordam. On the Amsterdam only suites have balconies--that would be a factor in our decision. If you perfer a smaller ship, then it's the Amsterdam. Check out the itineraries also as a deciding factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted December 27, 2006 #3 Share Posted December 27, 2006 I too, think we would take the Noordam, for the veranda's and the size. We liked the Amsterdam, would take her again, but it seems the smaller ships rock and roll quite a bit more. We did Alaska in late May/early June about 8 years ago, small ship and some pretty rough days. We just did the Amsterdam, small ship, worst rocking we have ever had in 20 plus cruises. Alaska can get rough so I would choose a larger ship. NMnita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doone Posted December 27, 2006 #4 Share Posted December 27, 2006 For me, I would choose the Amsterdam. I have sailed the Amsterdam, but while I have never sailed the Noordam, I have sailed her sister ship, the Zuiderdam. I enjoyed the Zuiderdam, but for different reasons than the Amsterdam or any of the other R and S style ships of HAL. I find the R and S style ships of HAL, such as the Amsterdam, to be more intimate than the Vista's. On the Amsterdam, you can get a verandah cabin without getting a suite, just like on the Noordam. I have never experienced any less motion on the Zuiderdam than I did on the R and S class ships. One thing you can't control is the motion of the ocean. While its just my preference for the Amsterdam, either ship you choose you will enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted December 27, 2006 #5 Share Posted December 27, 2006 I like both ships a lot ... and the Noordam a bit more for large-port itineraries like Europe ... but for Alaska I'd choose Amsterdam again. One thing you might check before you make your choice is to look at cruisecal.com and see what other ships will be in each port. The smaller the number of people in any port at one time the better, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercedMike Posted December 27, 2006 #6 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Personally we think the Vista class ships, such as Noordam, are stunning! While they are large, you don't get much of a feeling of being crowded and there are lots of facilities! Whichever you pick, you will love it! Check our page below for pics of our trip to Alaska on Zuiderdam, sister to Noordam, last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted December 27, 2006 #7 Share Posted December 27, 2006 JMO We have sailed on the Amsterdam a couple of times and have sailed on all the vista class ships except Noordam. We much prefer the Amsterdam as she is smaller and more intimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammybee Posted December 27, 2006 #8 Share Posted December 27, 2006 For me, I would choose the Amsterdam. I have sailed the Amsterdam, but while I have never sailed the Noordam, I have sailed her sister ship, the Zuiderdam. I enjoyed the Zuiderdam, but for different reasons than the Amsterdam or any of the other R and S style ships of HAL. I find the R and S style ships of HAL, such as the Amsterdam, to be more intimate than the Vista's. On the Amsterdam, you can get a verandah cabin without getting a suite, just like on the Noordam. I have never experienced any less motion on the Zuiderdam than I did on the R and S class ships. One thing you can't control is the motion of the ocean. While its just my preference for the Amsterdam, either ship you choose you will enjoy. Happy holidays Doone. Who knew the Amsterdam would remain our favorite? I have sailed the "O" and "W" and would choose the "A" over either, in a heartbeat. But one of these days I will board the "N" and find out what all the fuss is about. The "A" is the perfect size ship, for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doone Posted December 27, 2006 #9 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Happy Holiday's to you as well, Hammybee. I love the Amsterdam as well, she's a beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd25 Posted December 27, 2006 #10 Share Posted December 27, 2006 My family cruised on the Amsterdam in 2003 to Alaska, and it was one of the most enjoyable trips I have ever been on both because of the ship and the destination. Best, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PathfinderEss Posted December 27, 2006 #11 Share Posted December 27, 2006 If it were up to me, it would be the Amsterdam. It is much more elegant and classier then the Vista ships. Though the Noordam has more rooms, in actuality they are smaller then the Amsterdam cabins if that makes a difference to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iris5383 Posted December 27, 2006 #12 Share Posted December 27, 2006 I also prefer the Amsterdam, for the smaller size and less people. We took a trip on the 'A' 4 years ago to Alaska and are booked again in August. I have not been on the Noordam, but have been on the Oosterdam recently. The vista class (Noordam & Oosterdam) have more public rooms, but the hallways and atrium are smaller. I would personally take an inside room on the Amsterdam over one with a balcony on the Vista Class ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsMuir Posted December 27, 2006 #13 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Here's another vote for the Amsterdam. We were on her sister ship, the Rotterdam, for 12 days in a Verandah cabin (formerly called a "mini-suite") and were very comfortable. You don't have to book a suite to get a balcony, as has been mentioned in previous replies. We sailed on a Vista class ship, the Westerdam, too, and though it was wonderful, we prefer a ship somewhat smaller than an aircraft carrier, and the layout is better on the R and S class ships. As for motion, I think that a cabin near the middle of the ship and not too high up is supposed to be less woozy. A more experienced sailor can weigh in on this theory. Richard and I actually like feeling the waves, so we try to get as far forward as we can. Mrs Muir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possumcat Posted December 27, 2006 Author #14 Share Posted December 27, 2006 If it makes a difference, we'll be booking an inside cabin. What are the sizes of inside cabins on either ship? Thanks for all the replies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted December 27, 2006 #15 Share Posted December 27, 2006 I'm a cave-dweller and have sailed both ships---my preference would be the Amsterdam. The inside cabins on the Amsterdam are larger than on the Vistas---the there is more outside deck space to enjoy! If I were you I would book either a K-category on Main Deck mid-ship, or a J-category on Lower Promenade. Both will give a very comfortable ride, are convenient to all the popular day and night spots; the Lower Promenade also makes for an excellent veranda! Alaska has such marvelous scenery that you will want to be outdoors to take in as much of the vista (small "v";) ) as you can. There are some nice, sheltered spots for this on the Amsterdam. Whatever you decide have a great time in The Great Land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFromPleasanton Posted December 28, 2006 #16 Share Posted December 28, 2006 What I find curious -- quite possibly due to my own naivete -- is that nobody has cited the itinerary as a factor. The Amsterdam does not visit a glacier, and that is a point that eliminated it from consideration for us. But maybe I'm being too hasty. Or ignorant... :eek: Rick A. Pleasanton CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted December 28, 2006 #17 Share Posted December 28, 2006 What I find curious is that nobody has cited the itinerary as a factor. I believe the OP stated it was a similar itinerary. The Amsterdam does not visit a glacier,.... Are you certain of this? :confused: I haven't known of any HAL ship not to have at least one glacier on it's itinerary in, well since I've kept track (a long time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possumcat Posted December 28, 2006 Author #18 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Both ships have almost identical itineraries with only a switch in what order the ports are. They both go to Glacier Bay in May. The Amsterdam then switches to Tracy Arm starting in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted December 28, 2006 #19 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Tracy Arm leads up to the twin Sawyer Glaciers. They aren't the most impressive, IMO, but they are very nice. The ride up/down Tracy Arm is beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possumcat Posted December 28, 2006 Author #20 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Ruth-which would you suggest for a first Alaska visit: Glacier Bay, Tracy Arm or Hubbard Glacier? The Oosterdam does Hubbard Glacier out of Seattle. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted December 28, 2006 #21 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Hubbard is the largest, and IMO the most impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted December 28, 2006 #22 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Hubbard. Absolutely, positively. On a good day Hubbard Glacier is the very best of the four areas---Tracy Arm, Glacier Bay, Hubbard, and College Fjord. The sail up Yakutat Bay has to be one of the most beautiful rides in the world. When you do reach the glacier you are facing a wall of ice that is five miles wide and (I can't remember how) high. It's blue, Blue, BLUE! And when it cracks and then calves it is an amazing experience. As we sailed away from my first visit there the ship's PA system played Ave Maria. And it wasn't hokey at all. On a bad-weather day all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted December 28, 2006 #23 Share Posted December 28, 2006 WSOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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