Would you pay more for?

[Catnip]

 

The Mass Market. That happens to include the drunks and chair hogs and belchers and farters,

 

Now THAT is funny!!!!!!! hehehehehe :D :D :D

[firefly333]

Doesnt the Queen Mary do this about the folks in higher priced cabins have special priveleges and eat dinner separate? Some people dislike this about the Queen Mary, but I have not heard its been changed.

 

Iv never had problems on tenders (knock on wood) etc, so Im perfectly happy with how it is. If you could keep the guy in the cabin next door from getting loud and drunk, thats all I ask lol.

[Catnip]

If you could keep the guy in the cabin next door from getting loud and drunk, thats all I ask lol.

 

 

AMEN!!! :)

[standby 06.30]

I don't believe so.

 

Air and cruise are separate animals for me. I fly as infrequently as possible, choosing to drive whenever I can. I accept the mass market cruise lines as they are, so there is no boycott. I accept air travel for what it is. no boycott.

 

I won't buy a Ford because of the Pinto fires. I won't shop at HH Gregg because of deceptive sales tactics. I won't go to Precision Tune because they install used parts and charge as if they were new. I don't go to Walmart mostly because their service stinks, but I also don't support their withholding insurance from so many staffers.

 

Businesses can do as they please, and I can vote with my wallet. And I Do.

 

Mass Market lines are there to appeal to, well, The Mass Market. That happens to include the drunks and chair hogs and belchers and farters, plus all the well-mannered folks. I accept that. It's a big ship, I have never had a problem distancing myself from those I'd rather not be around. You seem to want to carve up the audience to suit your preferences, but only if they pay the bribe. I don't find it to be a wise business decision and would withhold my purchasing from them as my way of showing I do not agree with the policy.

 

If the next time I board I'm told that what lies behind all those velvet ropes are only for those who paid the $500, um, "Upsell Luxury Package" (don't know what you would name it) I would be upset because in the brochure and online I read about all those wonderful lounges and expected to gain entry as they were included in my cruise ticket. Cruise is All Inclusive (yeah yeah, drinks, pics, there are extras). You are trying to exclude some and determining that more money would exclude the drunks and chair hogs, etc. not only do I not buy that argument, I'm not in favor of implementing it On A Mass Market Cruiseliner. Barring entry to parts of the ship preferred by those who have ponied up the extra $500 is distasteful to me. I think that's the jist of it for me - I find the idea distasteful.

 

I think you would have an easier road by trying to get more fun people with good manners on those more upscale sailings. If truly the only problem you have on those other lines is the, um, sleepiness too early in the night. Trying to instill new policies and what amounts to a bribe on the mm's is not the answer. Extolling the virtues of the lines you prefer is a preferable course of action in my opinion.

 

Part of the fun of these boards is the intelligent discourse. Is that not why you started this thread?

I of course respect your views, and I do as you put it like intelligent discourse it is so rare these days (perhaps I should have included an IQ test when applying for the upscale product)

 

I remember when Stellios created his form of cruising, you pay for a ticket that gets you on the ship,the cabins are all the same, very basic, then you have to pay for every thing else, food etc.

 

Outcry it will not work etc, but it does, kind regards

[RetireeWannabee]

I of course respect your views, and I do as you put it like intelligent discourse it is so rare these days (perhaps I should have included an IQ test when applying for the upscale product)

 

I remember when Stellios created his form of cruising, you pay for a ticket that gets you on the ship,the cabins are all the same, very basic, then you have to pay for every thing else, food etc.

 

Outcry it will not work etc, but it does, kind regards

 

I would certainly start the business that way for best chance of success. It would be difficult to get regular mm pax to swallow wholesale change of that magnitude. Angering loyal customers can be a seriously damaging prospect. The ole "better mousetrap" scenario and all... Don't retrofit the same mousetrap - build a better one!

 

We timeshare frequently and will not do AI resorts because of the significant cost difference (given that we are not big eaters or drinkers). Food, entertainment, leisure activities, etc., we pay as we go. We like to explore the area, sample local food, enjoy local customs, culture etc. Some people would prefer an AI and not have to seek out and pay at the moment for such. And many of them will not leave the resort grounds, preferring to stick around and be served all day.

 

Either way is fine - continues on the 'something for everyone' theme. Why shouldn't a person be able to book the vacation they desire??

 

One of the sweetest things in life is pursuing your own brand of happiness. My budget dictates that I not acquire a champagne taste but for those who can afford it, there is no reason why you should not enjoy the best that life has to offer.

 

But do not for one minute think that only the highest IQ'd people have money or that the lowest IQs do not have money.

[standby 06.30]

Wannabee, may I be so bold as to ask you a question.

 

With the egalitarian sentiments expressed in your posts, are you a Democrat?, regards

[RetireeWannabee]

Wannabee, may I be so bold as to ask you a question.

 

With the egalitarian sentiments expressed in your posts, are you a Democrat?, regards

 

You may always ask me anything!

 

I vote for the person, not the party; not a registered anything. There have been individuals of both sides of the aisle whose ideas I have supported.

 

Part hippie chick (free spirit), part sell-out to corporate America (one must make a living).

[standby 06.30]

You may always ask me anything!

 

I vote for the person, not the party; not a registered anything. There have been individuals of both sides of the aisle whose ideas I have supported.

 

Part hippie chick (free spirit), part sell-out to corporate America (one must make a living).

How splendid, a true free thinker, I have to declare that I am a card carrying member of the Labour Party.

 

In my youth I was a member of the British Communist party ( one must make a very good living) my wife is from ex-Yugoslavia and re-ignites the dwindling flame of socialism that still lurks in my gut.

 

How would you fare under proportional representation?, regards ps your answer was that of a true politician!

[RetireeWannabee]

How splendid, a true free thinker, I have to declare that I am a card carrying member of the Labour Party.

 

In my youth I was a member of the British Communist party ( one must make a very good living) my wife is from ex-Yugoslavia and re-ignites the dwindling flame of socialism that still lurks in my gut.

 

How would you fare under proportional representation?, regards ps your answer was that of a true politician!

 

I would welcome it as the 'winner takes all' system causes much disruption and does not adequately represent the constituency. It's frustrating, especially for those who align with only one side or the other.

 

I'm not so much a politician as I am a wordsmith. I would be a decent speechwriter if I cared enuf about all the grammatical hoo hah and normal conventions of abbreviations. And, of course, Political Correctness!

 

But, um, yeah, I can do doublespeak. On a peer review for a chap I despised, I considered writing something like "his value to the company is without measure" and let the powers that be figure out what I meant!

 

You know what they say: If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance... ;)

[standby 06.30]

Wannabee I am slightly dyslexic, but my oral capabilities are the stuff of leg- ends.

 

As a mere callow youth on this board I feel I must impart this strange yet slightly bizarre thought.

 

It seems to me that those bright corporate chappies of the mass market lines have created a new religeon of messianic proportions.

 

On a daily basis the follower worship on these boards where they express there unswerving loyalty to there Ship.

 

If an interloper preaches blasphemy (ie the food is crap on carnival) instead of stoneing they get flamed,

 

The priests those with the largest number of post (knowledge?) pontificate with tremendous zeal rallying the faithfull and ex-communicating the non belivers.

 

The more flamboyant worshippers decorate their page like shrines, they have countdown clocks to tell them when there next pilgrimage or Cruise will happen.

 

It is the church of the perpetual propellor.

 

I have to go now there is a great thread on Gastric bypass cruisers.

 

Kalo Taxidi

[Catnip]

The more flamboyant worshippers decorate their page like shrines, they have countdown clocks to tell them when there next pilgrimage or Cruise will happen.

 

 

Holy cow!!!! That is the funniest thing I've read here in a long time!!!! :D :D

[standby 06.30]

Holy cow!!!! That is the funniest thing I've read here in a long time!!!! :D :D

Catnip to keep on thread I do like the quote by lovely Rita the meter maid where she ponders whether " dogs think that poodles are part of some strange religeous cult" there seems to be a symbiosis between the quote and the relationship between Carnival deciples and RCL deciples.regards ps the gastric bypass thread was a bit tepid

[hammybee]

It is the church of the perpetual propellor.

 

Kalo Taxidi

 

I will remember and reuse both of these gems. Thank you.:)

[standby 06.30]

Hammy, Catnip and Wannabee, you should be carefull in being seen to be pleasant to me, there are many here who view me as the "anti christ" a badge that I wear with pride!

 

Perhaps I should start a religeon of my own? "the brothers and sisters of the midnight mass buffet" so full of promise, but so little taste. I do have rather Catholic tastes

 

I have to go now and prepare for a long weekend in Wales.

 

My butler Sven ( a strapping Swede) is drawing my bath with the aid of my much younger wife, I cant understand why they are so noisy!

 

But hey ho the wind and the rain.

 

Talking about wind google a great hero of mine, a Frenchman ( what happened to french fries are they back, did they get a Scooter pardon, I rather liked Freedom fries) called Joseph Pujol. kalo taxidi

[standby 06.30]

I will remember and reuse both of these gems. Thank you.:)

Copyright Darling Copyright, but I absolve you.

 

I live to love, not love to live, it must be the "rhythm method".

 

Allways remember, Its nice in the sun but for me much better in the daughter, sorry not very PC kalo taxidi

[standby 06.30]

I have had another thought, how can I change my name to "Seaman Staines" do you think the mods will impeach me.

 

Or what about Mr Di O Rhea food consultant to Carnival.

 

I am at your service, B L Zeebub

[Catnip]

Hammy, Catnip and Wannabee, you should be carefull in being seen to be pleasant to me, there are many here who view me as the "anti christ" a badge that I wear with pride!

 

 

I have to say that I have always been somewhat of a rebel and hate to be a comformist!! :D And I love your tongue-in-cheek humor.....so few people appreciate those kinds of things!!! :) :)

[RetireeWannabee]

I have to say that I have always been somewhat of a rebel and hate to be a comformist!! :D And I love your tongue-in-cheek humor.....so few people appreciate those kinds of things!!! :) :)

At the risk of injecting mass market cliche, DITTO!

[Catnip]

At the risk of injecting mass market cliche, DITTO!

 

 

hehehehehehehehe! :D :D

[standby 06.30]

I have to say that I have always been somewhat of a rebel and hate to be a comformist!! :D And I love your tongue-in-cheek humor.....so few people appreciate those kinds of things!!! :) :)

I love rebels without corsets, I am more a "Basque" man, the party not the undergarments, ok 50/50. I nearly put one of those "funny" faeces in but resisted, regards

 

Lets start another thread "Cruising for the impotent" and see what pops up.regards

[Catnip]

I nearly put one of those "funny" faeces in but resisted, regards

 

Lets start another thread "Cruising for the impotent" and see what pops up.regards

 

OK, you start it!!!!!!!

 

And I just love to use those smilies. Although the choices here are very limited. There are some other websites that have really funny (& somewhat rude) smilies........sometime they are the perfect accent!!!

[standby 06.30]

OK, you start it!!!!!!!

 

And I just love to use those smilies. Although the choices here are very limited. There are some other websites that have really funny (& somewhat rude) smilies........sometime they are the perfect accent!!!

That is my problem, I cant start it:eek: and as a male the only thing I can play with is the keyboard, that seems to be quite common here.

 

I think I will have to compensate and spend time P-i-m-p-i-n-g my page,pass the glitter regards

[Catnip]

and as a male the only thing I can play with is the keyboard, that seems to be quite common here.

 

 

 

:D LMAO!

[ancldaca]

I don't think that the OP suggested a completely seperate class system which I agree is likely to be a doomed idea to go back to.

 

But I think the OP has a good idea there, in general. Sort of like the airlines' lounges type of program (Admiral Club, etc)? Some extra features that involve an extra price that passengers on the mass lines could choose to pay extra for as a package (or not) to boost their personal cruise experience from mass to a bit below luxury.

 

 

Better quality food. (something in between general dining room but not quite specialty)

Strict dress codes. (yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!!!!)

No singing and dancing waiters. (definitely, if they sing & dance the food is getting cold in the meantime)

With a senior ships officer at your table on Formal nights. (that would work very well in this type of concept if you have 2 formals)

Room sevice to match. (Yes please, but a bit more difficult logistically. Would need a seperate # and seperate menus in rooms)

More interesting days at sea with demonstrations other than napkin folding and ice carving, plus guest lectures. (Make these REAL guest lectures with a bit of bite in them - not fluffy like current offering, but this should be in general not only as an 'upgrade')

A pool area with no children, no chair hogs, no drunks. (I would just say a seperate area sure, but everybody (from the program) welcomed but must behave properly)

A separate entrance to board the ship and to leave by. (plus dedicated elevator)

Exclusive tenders so no long lines (at least during peak times)

A seperate indoor Bar and lounge with a small dance floor with a quality band, and some good artists. (I suspect that this might not fill up enough; however, an alternative would be a "quiet" bar with some non-pop music (jazz, bossa nova, classical, etc.) open to general public)

No smoking (Won't comment here; enough electronic damage has been done on these boards on this subject)

 

Here are some additions:

Hot water kettle in room and/or coffee maker with a selection of proper brands of coffee and teas (replenished throughout cruise)

Nightly canapes in room (Items rotate so it isn't always the same)

Ability to bring any licor on-board for private in-cabin consumption

Private sail away party at choicest area of ship.

Availibility of special breakfast items (steak & eggs, etc) in that special restaurant

[hudvalleycruiser]

Going back to the original post, the question is would I accept a surcharge for certain ammenities. For the following, the answer is a definite yes.

 

Required dress codes evenly enforced

An "adults only" dining venue

A pool area with no children, no chair hogs, no drunks

A separate entrance to board and disembark the ship

Exclusive tenders so no long lines

Bringing wine/liquor onboard for in-cabin consumption

 

And if this makes me a "snob," so be it.