Bible & tipping questions

[ship2sher]

Do I need to pack my bible or do each of the staterooms have a Gideon Bible in the drawer? Also, I'm getting my first onboard massage. Is the masseuse automatically tipped or do I need to tip him/her? If so, how

much would I leave for a $120 to $130 massage?

[Krazy Kruizers]

There is a bible in every cabin.

Yes -- you should tip the Spa person whatever you wish to tip. The amount of tip is a personal thing.

[Sundagger]

Be sure to check the Bible in your cabin - people often leave coffee cards, wine cards, etc. in them. I left a wine card in one with a couple of punches still good.

[AAAAmerican]

 

You should always pack a copy of Your Own Read Holy Bible.

 

On TIPS:

To Insure Prompt Services

 

It is a very personal matter in all accords and varies with each..

 

Some even tip the boy coming aboard...

 

Europeans and Asians Do not tip..

 

Again choice...

 

Choices choices ..many voices... :cool:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do I need to pack my bible or do each of the staterooms have a Gideon Bible in the drawer? Also, I'm getting my first onboard massage. Is the masseuse automatically tipped or do I need to tip him/her? If so, how

much would I leave for a $120 to $130 massage?

[Aunty Pat]

I usually tip 10% to 15% for spa services and it can be added to the charge slip when you sign.

 

Rember that spa services are usually discounted on port days.

 

There are usually bibles in the cabins except when there is a red alert for the nuro virus they are removed for health reasons.

 

Aunty Pat

 

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[simplelife]

I like to have my own familiar copy of the Bible with me - it is my preferred translation and I've become very comfortable with the print size, page thickness, and organization as well as personal notations. If weight is an issue, however, I can get by with a generic one.

[geocruiser]

ship2sher,

 

Welcome to CC. Holland America does offer daily mass on board their ships. All are welcome there.

 

Maria

[Billym1507]

Don,t know where you get the Europeans don,t tip from. I always tip over the normal if I get good servive, and so do all the friends I know.

Billy.

[ship2sher]

Thank you all for your quick responses to my questions. Yes, weight is the issue, so I'll leave my bible home.

Thanks for letting me know that the maseuse's tip is separate. I'll tip

accordingly. You guys are great for helping me out.

[chrismch]

I would call HAL to confirm that they do still have Bibles in the room. They are starting to be removed from hotel rooms and cruise ships. On either Princess or Celebrity this spring there was not a Bible. I had to ask for one from the front desk. I also stayed at a 4 star hotel in Seattle last year and they had no Bibles available not even from the front desk.

[jschm27]

Be sure to check the Bible in your cabin - people often leave coffee cards, wine cards, etc. in them. I left a wine card in one with a couple of punches still good.

 

Sundagger

 

Now that is an extra incentive to open the Good Book!

 

I see that you're from Santa Fe, one of my favorite towns. Our next cruise is a Panama Canal transit. I've looked at the photos posted on CC for our ports of call and it appears that the large import store (jack rabbit + antelope) in Santa Fe sells much of the same stuff that is sold in the toursit areas of Central America! :D I'm sure we'll find something to buy down there though!

 

You live in a great town for food! I go to Santa Fe just to eat at the various restaurants. We've considered moving there but that's probably not a good idea, I'd eat myself silly! I tend to like my chili hot, red or green. :eek: Anyway, looking forward to the good food aboard ship and having an opportunity to sample some of the local fare when we get off.

 

John

[Gator83]

There is a bible in every cabin.

 

Yes -- you should tip the Spa person whatever you wish to tip. The amount of tip is a personal thing.

 

 

Thank goodness for that bible because I'll need it when I pray that I hit the jackpot in the casino!

[our turn]

The bible provided in the cabin will probably be the King James version. I prefer to have the translation I'm used to reading.

[fireman845]

I totally disagree with throwing it away, makes no sense... Just give it to the porter, even set it outside the room if you must, buy why destroy property that is not yours?:confused:

Maybe you are just one of those posters that tries to see how many people you can get a rise out of???

Either way Good Luck

[jtl513]

On TIPS:

To Insure Prompt Services

Not true. That is a "backronym" - a phrase made up to match an existing word. Check your Oxford English Dictionary. By your reasoning what does the singular form "tip" mean? In addition, the correct word would be Ensure, not insure.

[Devil Dog]

Very interesting read regarding tipping. For the person who doubted tips stands for "to insure prompt service" that is from word origins. The customers would put a tip on the end of the table before they were served. This would be seen by the servers and they would insure prompt service for those who are rewarding the service. I tip every service person onboard who takes care of my requests. I tip my cabin steward 10-20 bucks the 1st day every cruise, and we have over 25 Princess cruises alone. It makes a wonderful rapport witht the steward because he/she knows the passengers will be asking for personal services. I know we all ask for ice,blankets,glasses,extra chocolates,or soap and shampoo. this person does a wonderful service and works very hard to please. I have free laundry and dry cleaning services as part of Elite perks and I give the cabin steward a 5 every day when he delivers the clothes. I also have coffee every morning made to perfection at the atrium bar the Patessiere? and I also tip a 5 spot just about everyday. This is the same person who waits on you in the evening for drinks. I have been told by others crusing with me that "I ruin it for everyone else because I tip to often and to much" I could not believe I heard that. I believe it is all a gift from God of everything I have. If I have money and keep it all I sure learned how to be greedy. However, If I share what I have with others I have learned many more lessons of love for my fellow brothers and sisters. I have passed up an excursion so I can have tip money and it didn't bother me at all. I do love the way everyone onboard knows my name and treats me wonderful, it just makes my vacation more enjoyable to have memories of everything and that includes the experience witht eh crew.:)

[Boytjie]

Here is what is says about 'tip':

 

The word originates from the 16th century verb tip, which meant "to give, hand, pass" and "to tap", possibly being derived from the Low German word tippen, meaning "to tap."The modern German term for a tip is the unrelated Trinkgeld, literally "drink money."

 

 

 

 

The word "tip" is often inaccurately claimed to be an acronym for terms such as "to insure prompt service", "to insure proper service", "to improve performance", and "to insure promptness". However, this etymology contradicts the Oxford English Dictionary and is probably an example of a backronym. Moreover, most of these backronyms incorrectly require the word "insure" instead of the correct "ensure".

[Cruisergal1208]

My DH has the Bible on his Trio phone thing. He always has that with him so no need for us to have the extra weight. Also, we do have a very thin, but small print, Bible we carry sometimes.

[rpjkw11]

I honestly can't remember if Bibles or in each cabin since I always take mine. If weight is a consideration, why not consider one of the small Bibles, usually only the New Testament? They are available in a number of 'translations'.

 

Bob

[RuthC]

There was a Bible in the nightstand on the E-dam's inaugural cruise.

I remember moving it to the other nightstand. Oh, and I left a coupon book in it, too. ;)

[Himself]

GeoCruiser:

 

Thanks for "plugging" Daily Mass. I usually bring along the Catholic Version of the RSV for my own personal reading. It is based on the 1966 Edition of the RSV and that--scripture scholars tell me--is the most authentic translation of the Word of God.

[cruzincurt]

GeoCruiser:

 

-is the most authentic translation of the Word of God.

 

Sorry, I don't understand the "different" translations, most authentic compared to what?

 

Do different translations have different meanings? Does this mean that someone has rewritten their own version for their own purposes?

 

Most of the cruises we have been on did not have a bible in the room but a variety of religious texts were available for the asking.

[crule]

Without turning this into a big theology debate, I'll throw just a few ideas.

 

Some translations use Elizabethan English (thee, thou, art, etc). Others are contemporary English.

 

Some are "paraphrases" while others strive to be authentic translations from the greek or aramaic.

 

Some modern translations use gender inclusive or gender neutral language while others adhere to the same masculine pronouns that are found in the source texts.

 

Some modern translations are sourced differently - which "ancient text" did it derive from? Masoretic? The Septuagint, etc.

 

I think the Rev Billy Graham answered it best when he was asked "Which is the best bible to have" - to which he replied "The one you read..."

[heathriel]

My college education was based on the Great Books pogram, and Sophomore year we covered the bible. We translated a large part of it from Greek texts in our language classes, and for our seminar discussions everyone showed up with their own "regular" versions, Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, English, etc - it was all fine and dandy until we got to the New Testamant, when everything hit the fan. Not surprisingly, the most calm people in the class were my Hindu, Jewish and Quaker classmates, who sat back and watched everyone else tear each other apart over the meaning of specific passages, or the placement of a passage in one version where it wasn't in another, etc.

 

When my husband and I got married and we merged our libraries, he picked my Oxford English Bible and compared it to his "abridged" New English Bible (the one that he grew up with in his religion), and was surprised to see that there were more books in the Old Testament. Which he quickly dismissed by saying "My religion only does the New Testament anyway."

 

I have no end of fun reading Song of Solomon to him when we're in Hotel rooms. It's some of the most beautiful poetry in the world and his bible neglected to include it.

[m steve]

when they empty the fridge when I board. I hate to waste the space on unneccesary stuff.