realent Posted April 3, 2009 #1 Share Posted April 3, 2009 We have a cruise booked on the Zuiderdam on 5/6/09 through 5/9/09. LA to Vancouver. We originally booked the Westerdam one night on 5/9/09 Vancouver to Seattle but cancelled that as it was in violation of the Jones Act. Today I booked a Princess Ship to leave on 5/9, the same day we arrive on the HAL ship, to travel Vancouver to Seattle. I think it is in violation by not staying the night but do you think because we are changing cruiselines that anyone will pick up on it and not allow us to sail? Has anyone done this? Any thoughts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZjohn Posted April 3, 2009 #2 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I wouldn't take anyone's word on this issue here on the internet. Call the cruise line and ask then get it in writing. Have a great cruise! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can786 Posted April 3, 2009 #3 Share Posted April 3, 2009 You should be fine. The PVSA states that a ship (read that to be one particular ship, not a combination of ships) cannot transport passengers from one US port to a different US port without stopping in a distant foreign port. Since Vancouver is not a distant foreign port you cannot do your itinerary if you were to stay on the same ship, but switching ships makes if perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanJ Posted April 3, 2009 #4 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I agree with Cathy, and have read many reports on these boards from people that have done exactly that. But, I'm no lawyer either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realent Posted April 3, 2009 Author #5 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Holland America wouldn't let me switch vessels without staying in Vancouver 24 hours... I am going to get to the bottom of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted April 3, 2009 #6 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I would check with the cruise lines on their interpretation of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare electro Posted April 3, 2009 #7 Share Posted April 3, 2009 "The PVSA states that a ship (read that to be one particular ship, not a combination of ships) cannot transport passengers from one US port to a different US port" Since when is Vancouver a US port?:rolleyes: As far as I know, it still belongs to us Canadians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulred Posted April 3, 2009 #8 Share Posted April 3, 2009 "The PVSA states that a ship (read that to be one particular ship, not a combination of ships) cannot transport passengers from one US port to a different US port" Since when is Vancouver a US port?:rolleyes: As far as I know, it still belongs to us Canadians. Actually, it belongs to the Chinese! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted April 3, 2009 #9 Share Posted April 3, 2009 "The PVSA states that a ship (read that to be one particular ship, not a combination of ships) cannot transport passengers from one US port to a different US port" Since when is Vancouver a US port?:rolleyes: As far as I know, it still belongs to us Canadians. It is because the OP wants to go between LA and Seattle, 2 US ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylandtk Posted April 3, 2009 #10 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Nancy, People do what you describe all the time, but you can't be making an issue of it and trying to get written permission to do so, because it is a violation of the PSA. Technically, you have to stay the 24 hours, which is why HAL would not allow you to switch ships. Book the HAL cruise with you as primary on the booking, book the Princess cruise with your DH as primary, and it is highly unlikely that anyone will connect the dots. You might even see other pax doing what you do. Just don't blatently advertise it, because if you do, Princess might have to deny you boarding. If you don't tell, they won't ask. They have no way of knowing you did not just fly in to Vancouver unless you make an issue of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realent Posted April 3, 2009 Author #11 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I called Princess and they will allow it. It is okay as long as you change cruiselines, not just ships. I do agree with the *don't ask to many questions* theory and I do like the idea of swapping the lead passenger name.. I am talking with the Maritime Cabotage task force in Washington DC. I really need to know what that law is for my clients. It is one thing if I get stranded in Vancouver... no big deal.. I can deal with that. Quite another if my clients can't get onboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realent Posted April 3, 2009 Author #12 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I was thinking the same thing... Vancouver IS a foreign port. But apparently it doesn't count as it has to be a DISTANT foreign port. They are classified differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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