Rick-cruiser Posted July 30, 2009 #1 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Here's a newly released article regarding NEW DESIGN CHANGES planned for the Celebrity Solstice Class 4 and 5 ships..... Celebrity Cruises plan design changes in Solstice 4 and 5 Written by Kari Reinikainen Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:36 Celebrity is planning to introduce design changes in the fourth and fifth unit of the Solstice-class ships, according to Harri Kulovaara, EVP of Newbuildings at Royal Caribbean Cruises Limited. He told a news conference on board Celebrity Equinox, the second unit of the five strong class, that the time to decide the changes in now. Kulovaara did not elaborate on what could be changed in the final, yet unnamed units of the class. He said that the design had been very solid and operational experiences of the Celebrity Solstice that was introduced last year had not required major changes in the subsequent vessels. The first two units of the class are thus very close to each other yet with a personality of their own. However, it is the company's intention to move the design forward within the same concept. That's it for the article..... it's me again. Of course, at this point they're being very obscure with the actual design changes planned for Solstice 4 and 5... but I wonder what they are? OK...let's go at it folks.. what are some of the changes you would like to see? If you had it your way, what would you like them to change / eliminate / add / restore ??? - Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PammyHound Posted July 30, 2009 #2 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'm not sure if this is common knowledge or has been posted before, forgive me if it has, I don't post much..........but I was just on a 2 night pre-inaugural of the Equinox and was told by a higher ranking staff member that the 4th ship will likely be called Silhouette. I guess we'll have to wait and see. That question was asked during the Q&A session with the CEO, Dan Hanrahan and he declined to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loracpin2 Posted July 30, 2009 #3 Share Posted July 30, 2009 We were on the Solstice in January and I think the ship is fanatastic. My only suggestion would be for the closet to be larger and more easily accessible. I know they moved the safe from the closet to the drawers by the dresser on the Equinox, but this doesn't help with hanging space and the difficulty in getting in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEESRE Posted July 30, 2009 #4 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Change the tap in the bathroom so that it is not fixed as on Equinox but moveable. If you try to splash water on your face then you bang your head. Most ladies said that they could not wash their hair in the small basin eithr due to the tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTN Posted July 30, 2009 #5 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Here's a newly released article regarding NEW DESIGN CHANGES planned for the Celebrity Solstice Class 4 and 5 ships..... Celebrity Cruises plan design changes in Solstice 4 and 5 Written by Kari Reinikainen Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:36 Celebrity is planning to introduce design changes in the fourth and fifth unit of the Solstice-class ships, according to Harri Kulovaara, EVP of Newbuildings at Royal Caribbean Cruises Limited. He told a news conference on board Celebrity Equinox, the second unit of the five strong class, that the time to decide the changes in now. Kulovaara did not elaborate on what could be changed in the final, yet unnamed units of the class. He said that the design had been very solid and operational experiences of the Celebrity Solstice that was introduced last year had not required major changes in the subsequent vessels. The first two units of the class are thus very close to each other yet with a personality of their own. However, it is the company's intention to move the design forward within the same concept. That's it for the article..... it's me again. Of course, at this point they're being very obscure with the actual design changes planned for Solstice 4 and 5... but I wonder what they are? OK...let's go at it folks.. what are some of the changes you would like to see? If you had it your way, what would you like them to change / eliminate / add / restore ??? - Rick Sell them for scrap or to CCL, and keep the M class ships. Too many people!:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meow! Posted July 30, 2009 #6 Share Posted July 30, 2009 With the economy being still bad and cruise lines having trouble filling their berths, it is not a good time to build new ships. It appears that most cruise lines are over building now, over expansion is more than often the main cause of business failures. It is better to have less business and higher profit than more business and more losses, and this applies to all businesses, not just cruise lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txsloth Posted July 30, 2009 #7 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Sell them for scrap or to CCL, and keep the M class ships. Too many people!:mad: Have you sailed on Solstice? I never felt the least bit crowded. Lots of passengers are ok if the ship is as well designed as these are. Also, I think (can't find the source offhand) that passenger to staff ratio are the same on these as on M class ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted July 30, 2009 #8 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Sell them for scrap or to CCL, and keep the M class ships. Too many people!:mad: They said the same thing about the C and M class ships when they came out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaroleLee Posted July 30, 2009 #9 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Here's a newly released article regarding NEW DESIGN CHANGES planned for the Celebrity Solstice Class 4 and 5 ships..... Celebrity Cruises plan design changes in Solstice 4 and 5 Written by Kari Reinikainen Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:36 Celebrity is planning to introduce design changes in the fourth and fifth unit of the Solstice-class ships, according to Harri Kulovaara, EVP of Newbuildings at Royal Caribbean Cruises Limited. He told a news conference on board Celebrity Equinox, the second unit of the five strong class, that the time to decide the changes in now. Kulovaara did not elaborate on what could be changed in the final, yet unnamed units of the class. He said that the design had been very solid and operational experiences of the Celebrity Solstice that was introduced last year had not required major changes in the subsequent vessels. The first two units of the class are thus very close to each other yet with a personality of their own. However, it is the company's intention to move the design forward within the same concept. That's it for the article..... it's me again. Of course, at this point they're being very obscure with the actual design changes planned for Solstice 4 and 5... but I wonder what they are? OK...let's go at it folks.. what are some of the changes you would like to see? If you had it your way, what would you like them to change / eliminate / add / restore ??? - Rick Having been on Solstice- Need deep drawers &/or shelves for shirts, etc. A clothes line in the bathroom. Reposition the safe so we are not on our knees Carole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinearchit Posted July 30, 2009 #10 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'm not sure if this is common knowledge or has been posted before, forgive me if it has, I don't post much..........but I was just on a 2 night pre-inaugural of the Equinox and was told by a higher ranking staff member that the 4th ship will likely be called Silhouette. I guess we'll have to wait and see. That question was asked during the Q&A session with the CEO, Dan Hanrahan and he declined to answer. :D If that's true, I am EXTREMELY grateful! Original rumors were that the 4th ship was going to be Celebrity Zodiac:eek: I actually love the sound of Celebrity Silhouette. The only thing that I wonder about is that if this is true, than why did they name the Equinox's MDR Silhouette? As for the design changes, this is about what I expected. By the time any real issues were found with Solstice's design, Equinox was too far into the build process to really change up the design, so they only added small changes like the expansion of seating for the Hot Glass Show. As for Eclipse, she may have some minor evolutions from Equinox, but she was also pretty far into the build process (steel cutting and block assembly) to change anything. S-Class 4 and 5 were the perfect canvases to make S-Class changes to. I'm wondering if, on the 4th and 5th ships, we'll see any public room or restaurant changes, as to give the two final, "different" sisters a more unique feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes531 Posted July 30, 2009 #11 Share Posted July 30, 2009 We were on the 4/19 transatlantic, and loved the ship, not at all crowded feel to it! Except, when they tried to have mini shows in the hall area by the shops.....that was a disaster!:( Also the fashion show and sale day were a zoo! Couldn't see anything:( It seems they need an additional small theater area for some of the entertainment, like karaoke. The one entertainment room, though pretty, is difficult to see the talent because of all the poles! Seats are all over the place, great to view the scenery, but not a show! Another time they had a fantastic violin, fiddler and they had him in a bar area, again, with all the servers and waiters going right through and around him....very bad. Also, the closet needs to be a little deeper, hard to hand clothes and close door. Other than that - great ship!!! Loved it!!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcee207 Posted July 30, 2009 #12 Share Posted July 30, 2009 The only place we felt there was too many people was at the pool area on sea days, other than that we never felt like it had too many people. This was on Solstice this past Feb. Now the walk from the aft cabins to the elevator is another thing........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTN Posted July 30, 2009 #13 Share Posted July 30, 2009 We were on the 4/19 transatlantic, and loved the ship, not at all crowded feel to it! Except, when they tried to have mini shows in the hall area by the shops.....that was a disaster!:( Also the fashion show and sale day were a zoo! Couldn't see anything:( It seems they need an additional small theater area for some of the entertainment, like karaoke. The one entertainment room, though pretty, is difficult to see the talent because of all the poles! Seats are all over the place, great to view the scenery, but not a show! Another time they had a fantastic violin, fiddler and they had him in a bar area, again, with all the servers and waiters going right through and around him....very bad. Also, the closet needs to be a little deeper, hard to hand clothes and close door. Other than that - great ship!!! Loved it!!:) Can you contrast the Golden princess with the Equinox( if that is the ship you were on)? i do not believe it is not included in your list of cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celebritydave Posted July 30, 2009 #14 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I agree with the comment about the sink. It is very difficult to wash your face in the sink. My wife was always getting a lot of water on the floor. I would also like to see them take away the jog in the Balcony cabins. For the difference in price, the Aqua class cabins should be a little bigger than the others Other than that, the ship is really fantastic!! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jspirit Posted July 30, 2009 #15 Share Posted July 30, 2009 change that darn toilet paper holder!!! Just loved the Solstice ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinelyCruising Posted July 30, 2009 #16 Share Posted July 30, 2009 the 4th ship will likely be called Silhouette. I guess we'll have to wait and see. That question was asked during the Q&A session with the CEO, Dan Hanrahan and he declined to answer. I think if that's what they ultimately choose its not an easy ship's name to spell by the masses and that will likely leave a negative perception in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrikeRider Posted July 30, 2009 #17 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I would like to see a few wheelchair accessible aft balcony cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LustforLife Posted July 30, 2009 #18 Share Posted July 30, 2009 T-POOL!!!!!!!! Everyone misses the T-Pool!!!! It's been posted countless times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinearchit Posted July 30, 2009 #19 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Hmm, a T-Pool may be pretty likely! I'm sure many loyal X cruisers have written it on the "end of the cruise" comment cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise47 Posted July 31, 2009 #20 Share Posted July 31, 2009 A free T-Pool OK !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted July 31, 2009 #21 Share Posted July 31, 2009 we really loved Solstice but as long as someone may be asking here are some ideas: add a T pool-- a must for Aqua class the cabins could be wider--they have a long bowling alley feel to them.. change the toilet paper holder trade a bigger closet for less storage in the bathroom more drawer space a nice cigar bar for those who are interested better drink holders or mini tables..a must in the theatre.. maybe something else in place of the lawn (found it to be smelly & a waste of alot of space.. it was often "resting!")-- better use would be another few hot tubs or roof top pool! a garden idea is nice--not just the lawn... maybe some other art attraction to replace the hot glass-- Guess we better get busy... we have one more booked on Solstice, another on Equinox--so we have to catch Eclipse & then move on to the new ones... did not feel overwhelmed with crowds so hope they don't add more cabins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvnga Posted July 31, 2009 #22 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I agree with the T-pool. I really missed that. And don't try charging for it. The closet could be 2 or 3 inches deeper. Aft stairs would be nice but I am sure that would involve too much redesign. In the conference center the two rooms need to have clearly separate and easy to use AV and climate controls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solstice23 Posted July 31, 2009 #23 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Sell them for scrap or to CCL, and keep the M class ships. Too many people!:mad: I am sorry but the M class ships we love, but the design of the Solstice Class is the best ever, even versus a Land hotel. Working in design and Marketing I can tell you The solstice class are the best, only place we found lots of people was the pool deck, but hey thats on every cruise and its mostly seniors in the sun yet covered with robes and towels! Just our opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solstice23 Posted July 31, 2009 #24 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Besides Carnival would never know what to do with such stylized beautiful designed things! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinearchit Posted July 31, 2009 #25 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I was thinking, and I think the most likely addition will be a REAL lounge for Captain's Club members, rather than Michaels Club being reserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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