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8 hours ago, Sea Dog said:

New video from Vlaimir on crew preps for Adventure. Great video and very informative on what the crew is doing to prepare for guests. You can tell he works on the tech/video team. His videos are very professional.

 

Some observations

-The shots of the dining rooms were still set up for a full ship

-Nice shot of the new $500 million megayacht Nord

-Grandeur needs a couple coats of paint

All indications I've seen are that the suite lounges won't see any changes, at least for actual suite guests.

Lots of countries used 1 meter as their random social distancing distance, so I assume this is for European cruises.  USA picked 6 feet despite no science behind it. Other countries are 1.5 meters

oops, I totally misread the OP

Yes, call them up and reprice. They aren't actually booking the flights until 40 days before the cruise, so even after final payment you can still get a reprice.

Why would you cancel before you even knew what the new price was?

The generic statement about everyone needing a PCR test will cause confusion

19 minutes ago, Retired LEO said:

Check in is now available for June 19

And July 24

23 hours ago, wolfcathorse said:

your 1 yr old should be OK, most of the passengers will be vaccinated. Besides, it's rare for little ones to get really sick from the virus. But if they test him, as required, and he tests positive, are you prepared for the protocols they will institute.

A vaccinated senior citizen has a higher chance of getting covid than an unvaccinated healthy 1 yr old

What exactly are those dates?

Adventure starts 6/12, not 7/3

25 minutes ago, BecciBoo said:

And that would be who?  Seat belts only protect those who wear them, lack of them does not endanger anybody else.  Yours is an apples to onion comparison.

At least seat belts protect some set of people, unlike masks.

53 minutes ago, At Sea At Peace said:

The estimated number of those previously infected is unknown but believed to be high.

At the beginning of the month, the CDC estimated between 95 and 134 million

Just as long as kids don't have to wear masks.

12 minutes ago, dswallow said:

No way should any human avoid something that can protect them from a disease they'll otherwise have to suffer through, though could kill or maim them in some way, possibly long-term or even permanently.

So why isn't the shingles vaccine recommended to kids?  Or the HPV vaccine recommended to older folks? And why isn't the flu vaccine mandatory to cruise?

 

1 hour ago, exm said:

I think vaccines for children under 12 will be a challenge. My wife and I are both vaccinated, but we're absolutely on the fence for our 3 young kids. It's not lethal, the transmittal rate is lower the younger they get and we're still talking about a new technology. I am willing to take the risk myself *IF* there is anything long-term wrong with the Covid Vaccine. My children can't take this decision, I have to do it for them and I feel besides 'herd immunity' there's no real good reason to vaccinate kids below 12.

 

If you disagree with me, please make sure you're in my position with younger kids. This is not an easy decision.

No way should kids be required or even encouraged to get a vaccine for a disease that very mildly affects them. The flu affects kids much worse. 

The UK just put out the results of a study that found that EVERY pediatric covid death in the UK was a child with severe underlying health conditions. 

Just now, ONECRUISER said:

Agree, dont see Colored Wrist Bands happening. Yeah, sure, watch out don't get in Elevator with them. 

Well they could have one elevator for vaccinated and one for not!   Maybe different water fountains, too

The restricted cruises follow the same rules whether it's a 95% cruise or a ship that did a test cruise.

Which makes the test cruises even more ridiculous

3 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said:

 

Actually, they say 2-7 days in their guidelines but since those are changing by the day, uhm hour, uhm minute -- who knows...

 

• "Simulated voyages must be between 2-7 days in length with a least one overnight stay[2] to test the efficacy of the cruise ship operator’s ability to mitigate the risk of COVID-19 onboard the cruise ship, including through embarkation, disembarkation, and post-disembarkation testing."

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/ti-simulated-voyages-cso.html

You didn't click on the [2] footnote 

"To fully test all procedures during a simulated voyage, CDC recommends a minimum voyage length of 3 days with 2 overnight stays."

1 minute ago, Ocean Boy said:

That is the key. The CDC thinks, but doesn't know, about so many things. They pull numbers and mandates out of their butts and hope it either makes sense or that no one will notice that it doesn't.

That may well be true, but no cruise line is going to do more than the bare minimum to satisfy the stupid terms of the test cruises.

1 minute ago, molly361 said:

Volunteers will need to be fully vaccinated according to Vicki Freed

Yet based on the CSO, they'd all still need to behave on board as if they're not vaccinated.  Outdoor masks, social distancing, before and after testing, etc.

7 minutes ago, logan25 said:

Until they extend the sail by date, not impressed.

So it's basically "Rebook with Confidence" being extended

2 minutes ago, boatseller said:

Sorry, I don't follow.  There have never been face covering requirements while eating, even on shore.

Yes, some states required you to put your mask on in between bites. And the CSO has a clause for mask usage during extended meals.

14 minutes ago, boatseller said:

There is no face covering requirement other than traveling out of or in to the United States. 

Except if you're on a cruise ship and want to have a nice sit down dinner

14 hours ago, wolfie11 said:

The CDC has stated that these are to be non-revenue generating cruises.  So theoretically that means no booze sales, no gambling, no shops open, and no specialty restaurants.  I wonder if that's why they're only 3 days...

They're 3 days because the CDC says 3 days the minimum length they think all the protocols can be tested in.

31 minutes ago, ArthurUSCG said:

They are also only "test" or "simulated" cruises, they don't have to leave the dock, and if the ship doesn't sail out into international waters, then the casino and duty free shops can't open.

They do have to leave the dock to test private island/shore excursion protocols.