smokeybandit

It'd be very unfair to kids to make them mask up the entire cruise, so I'd sure hope some new guidance is coming.

39 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

$249 for two flights that take less than an hour each way does not strike me as some sort of bargain.

Actually it is quite a bargain. Unless you're flying to some nondescript place in the middle of the week, flights are expensive right now since demand is increasing again

I'd like to who this apparently large group of parents is that can just decide on a whim to leave their kids at home and take a cruise.

5 minutes ago, BirdTravels said:

What does this mean

 

 

It sounds like despite the cruise not bound by CDC rules, they're going to follow CDC rules. Which is bad news in their current form.

THere's no good reason American wouldn't accommodate that change request. I had a similar change a couple weeks ago, requested a similar set of flights that you're asking for, and it went through fine.

Just now, John&LaLa said:

 

For Covid, or just in general🤔

For covid, a disease that mildly affects young kids.  In the past vaccines for diseases that mildly affect kids were not recommended for kids.

1 minute ago, exm said:

 

That's a hot topic for sure. I have 3 kids under 10 and even though my wife and I are vaccinated we're not too sure if we want our 5 year old to be vaccinated. It's definitely not as black/white as it is with adults.

My son is 9 so I'm honestly very glad I don't have to make that choice for our July cruise. Hopefully by our March cruise it won't be a requirement anymore

It's ridiculous to make kids get vaccinated.

2 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

 

I want some of what you're smokin'

We get it. You don't want to see cruises out of the Bahamas. That doesn't mean they are going to be canceled, as much as you want them to be.

If you're under 12, you shouldn't need a mask since kids are less likely to get covid and less likely to spread it even if they do get it. 

Otherwise you're going to have kids in a mask nearly the entire day which is ridiculous.

Knowing the CDC, they'll probably require masks in the pools after the 7th night.

10 minutes ago, BirdTravels said:

Why is that? RCCL has no terminal in Nassau. They are spending $$$$ weekly to use the Hilton ballroom as a check-in location and shuttling thousands of people down the street to the ship. They have to bring provisions in from the States. It is a very low margin way to start

RC is sinking a lot of money into the Bahamas.  This time next year Nassau will have one of the nicest cruise terminals that RC homeports at. And supply chain issues that'll exist this summer won't be an issue next year.

Bermuda was desperation.

A Bermuda homeport is night and day different than a Bahamas homeport.

Bahamas cruises aren't going anywhere.

1 hour ago, Shorewalk Holmes said:

 

Agree!  For me, the key issue is the consequences of an outbreak.  And the issue won't go away anytime soon.  Although Florida is just a bit below the national average at 36.2% vaxxed, the surrounding states are much worse:

 

			Louisiana 29.9% Arkansas 29.5% Georgia 29.5% Alabama 27.8% Mississippi 26.2%
			Many people in these states may never be vaccinated. So there could be persistent pockets of covid within easy driving distance of Florida's ports for the next several years or longer.    So it seems reasonable to require adults to show proof of vaccination.  Unfortunately the governor and legislature have made it illegal.

1) The demographic of the unvaccinated in those states likely isn't the demographic getting on a cruise ship

2) You're not going to catch covid just driving through those states.

If we knew when we'd know then we'd already know

30 minutes ago, atgood said:

IMO It’s a false presumption to automatically assume that an unvaccinated person will be much more likely to contract CV-19, and therefore make a cruise unsafe and ruin a cruise for everyone else onboard.  
 

Most of us know of CV-19 cases in families where there was a wide range of who contracted CV-19, from only one member to all members.  The reason why some were able to avoid it, despite being in close contact with the infected, seems to be the great unknown. 
 

It’s only a matter of time, if it hasn’t already happened, where someone vaccinated has a breakthrough case and someone else (unvaccinated) sharing the same common space doesn’t contract CV-19.  

I haven't heard of one single case of someone getting covid from a vaccinated person.

In the past there was quite a delay in when RC canceled and when it actually showed as canceled on your account.

4 minutes ago, orville99 said:

That should be interesting considering that the current port facilities don't have the ability to function as a true embarkation terminal, and at the rate the Bahamians build anything, it will be awhile before they are able to construct a facility to handle being a home port.

They're deep in construction as we speak of a pretty impressive terminal complex.

4 minutes ago, JoeFan said:

Is there any flight incentives for Bahamas like there was for Bermuda? $99 flights from Newark is a pretty great deal.

They have $249 round trips from certain FL cities or $100 off elsewhere

12 minutes ago, RFerrington said:

Wow !  What a Charlie Foxtrot with the Israel and now Bermuda "alternative" sailings being cancelled.  It really makes Royal look like they are knee-jerking.  Time to slow things down and stop reacting.  Looks really bad, IMO

I don't think it's knee jerk at all.  Just goes to show how badly RC would rather sail from US ports than stopgap foreign ports.

2 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

I think those bookings were stronger than the Bermuda sailings

Plus it seems RC and Bahamas are both committed to making Nassau a legit full time home port.

Vision of the Seas June 6 to August 29, 2021: Vision of the Seas was to resume operations from Bermuda beginning June 2021. However, in anticipation for our U.S. return to service and following overwhelming feedback from our guests, the summer season in Bermuda will be cancelled.

Might be easier to get the agreements done with a small jurisdiction like Port Canaveral than larger more complicated ones like Miami or Lauderdale

12 minutes ago, mauraoel said:

Did they ever change the CSO from each ship had to go through test cruises?

That's still in there.

7 minutes ago, sandebeach said:

I was just reading that blog post on social media about Port Canaveral (but no mention of other Florida ports) and wondering if this has anything to do with Odyssey coming early to the USA? 

I doubt it. They've been working on those shore agreements for a while