smokeybandit

I've been on several flights during the pandemic. Flying now is better than it ever has been due to the lack of crowds (under 50% as many passengers flying compared to a year ago).

And ships won't get quarantined for weeks on end.  That was a year ago when no one knew what was going on and the strictest of measures were taken.

5 hours ago, sgmn said:

Can someone explain the reasons behind the PVSA law and what it's for,

thanks 

A 150 yr old archaic law that seeks to prevent foreign flagged passenger ships from dominating the market in US waters. It's why cruise lines can't just visit only American ports (other than one NCL ship in Hawaii)

Yes. Sometimes I'm logged in for days. Others, I log in several times per day.

5 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

Might be ocean going only, though.

 

Has to be, since Viking River Cruises isn't there

My March cruise now formally appears as cancelled, so I would hope FCCs and refunds start flowing.

21 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

 

 

I only see one bully here

And it's not me😉

323 with current numbers

https://cruisemarketwatch.com/capacity/

Wearing a mask for extended amounts of time isn't really the issue in my experience. It's your activity level during that time. If you're just sitting on a plane it's no big deal. If you're active that's where it can begin to be uncomfortable.

22 minutes ago, sugcarol said:

My doctor is one of the 18 providers in North Dallas for giving the vaccine. All info that we put down on our intake paperwork as well as the type of vaccine and lot numbers are being input to a data base on federal level. I watched what they were doing while i waited, then asked the nurse while she gave me the shot and she said yes, that was true. That should eliminate the possibility of fake ID cards.

But who has time or the access to the federal records to challenge a fake vaccine card?

You sure you weren't looking at 2021, since RC pulled all the Canadian cruises from inventory?

An interesting discussion I saw on twitter today. Could anyone realistically require a vaccine that's not yet FDA approved? While these vaccines are authorized for emergency use, they aren't formally approved and won't be for some time.

Seeing as we're in February and the CDC refuses to give any concrete guidance on how to conduct test cruises, May ain't happening

4 minutes ago, lizzius said:

This is part of the reason I hope the mandates for resuming cruises include expanded medical facilities

The CDC's so-called return to sailing order did mandate expanded medical facilities.

7 hours ago, PhoenixCruiser said:

People refusing to wear masks are part of the reason we won't get back to normal anytime soon. Selfish jerks.

Mask compliance has been between 75 and 95% across the country, higher in urban areas.

The new mask rules are nearly identical to any local or private mask rules regarding airlines and airpots

All these do (with the exception of ADA stuff) is federally back the rules.

One year may be excessive, but how many cruises go to canadian ports in the winter anyway?  In a way aren't they just saying the summer 2021 is off, and they'll start back up in spring 2022?

So any of you hoping for your Alaskan or Nova Scotia cruise, that ain't happening.

No real surprise though, as this seemed imminent

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37 minutes ago, Vera/Lee said:

Did you see the pictures posted on another blog that showed Allure and Explorer in Port Canaveral recently? A large crane was loading something onto the ships (first Allure, then Explorer the next day). People were guessing what was being loaded on. My guess is it was something to set up the laboratory capacity needed to meet this requirement. 

 

Honestly, to me it looked like shower stalls.

The CDC all but admitting that no matter what cruise lines did with the return to sailing framework, none would be allowed to start cruising any time soon.

I wouldn't bother asking when things will be normal again until cruising starts up again

1 minute ago, Ocean Boy said:

Data means nothing when you spend all night in an ICU trying to keep one of your "statistics" alive. I don't have to prove anything to you.

And that has nothing to do with covid, as there are examples for every ailment, illness and malady affecting someone it doesn't typically affect.

That doesn't mean across the board decisions should be made based on a tragic, yet extremely rare situation.

2 minutes ago, d9704011 said:

There are better odds of the earth being burned up in a supernova than you providing any useful insight on a discussion topic.

So prove that I'm wrong.

Less than 150 kids under age 15 have died due to covid, with the huge majority having severe underlying conditions.

Going from a negative test to needing urgent medical care in the span of a few days is extremely rare for even the most vulnerable, none the less a child.

Just because you don't like the real data doesn't mean the data is wrong.

Just now, Ocean Boy said:

However, when pediatric cases go bad they go bad big time. And I would not depend on either a ship's medical facility or a Caribbean hospital to be able to handle it as well as a U.S. hospital. Pedi and adult medicine are two different worlds.

There are better odds of a kid falling overboard than there are of a kid needing urgent medical care due to covid on a ship.

2 hours ago, lizzius said:

Using the death per capita for different demographics provided by the CDC suggests a big jump after 15 and a bigger jump after 25. Let's just make a new term, COVID vulnerable or something similar. 

 

I understand about the different vaccine discussion being a big black hole, but it is a non-trivial consideration to make.

A big jump mathematically, but a completely insignificant jump statistically.

Only once you get to 65+ does age determine vulnerability.

Here's the thing about proof of vaccine, at least in the USA.

It's a cheap piece of card stock.  Very easy to fabricate.  Good luck knowing who truly has the vaccine and who doesn't (not specifically cruises, but anything requiring proof of vaccine)

There's about 5 seconds of any value in the entire video

"When will we cruise again? I don't know"