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Just a marketing concept . holland knows the high cost of air fares to get tho those embarkation ports ,so to fill the ship they offered special inside state room pricing . For it is well known that a individual could spend on the ship where a empty cabin will definitely bring in zero revenue

like life itself there are different people with differing personnel priorities . imo ,I perceive this captain was protecting his job first & thus waited for Seattle to give him the official word . .Well just imagine during a war your commanding officer knew there was a offensive building that could wipe out the division yet waited for the official word

We did many Caribbean cruises probably every island at least once & some more than once .We live in San Diego county .When we did those cruises air fares on direct non stop Alaska Airlines was reasonable , today recently priced coach fares were $1056 round trip . for 2 . No doubt rental cars ,hotel rates & restaurants are all more expensive due to this high inflation Perhaps what it could come down to is to lower the cost of travel to the port because when a person adds the cost to get to the port it may very well price them from going on cruises . not only the cost to get to the cruise oier but the average higher cost of cruise cabins .This must have a impact on cruise sales long term

Holland Can make what ever decisions for their crew members & that is their business .I can tell you though that this virus is far from dead as it is appearing on other ships cruise lines now .How do I know this is because I am proactive on Celebrity & RCL cruises we have new bookings

There are small ship cruise lines that can get into ports that big ships can not ,Hal still has 2 ships that are small in comparison to their pinnacle sized ships & perhaps there is a real desire for people to be in med ports more than just one say but over night & even get to ports that the larger vessels can not get to . This is why creative thinking is needed with HAL & candidly other lines which still have the smaller vessels but not the high prices of the luxury lines

Yes Yes Yes this is the thinking & creative way . No extra hotel expenses & the time really to dig into the sights & savor the culture

We remember that cruise into Alaska , going to Kodiak Island ,Anchorage ie .We believe that a small sjp ala Volendam could go up the Anchorage inlet These are the things I wanted to see on this thread because imo HAL is being to near sighted & perhaps nt all their fault but more the fault of Carnival corp , Miami

The decrease in Calif population is all about political problems .That has zero impact on cruise lines because people drive into Calif from Arizona & Nevada & perhaps even further to take cruises from LA & San Diego & SF

What is your Kool -Aide .Are you recommending a personal drink of yours ? Just thought you deserved a reply😆

Interesting that we are not seeing a lot of new faces coming to our roll call when the cruise is less than 2 months from sailing .In fact it is very skinny with people . It had never been this way in the past . Could it be the economy is impacting new sales ?

Well Well the gang is all here . FWIW San Diego has the best weather & is one of the most desirable places to live .We have numerous attractions for the visitor to see Europe is appealing because both the Euro & British Pound currencies are weakened ,your Canadian loony will go further in Europe than the USA currently . Perhaps that is a strong motivator for you ;but ,remember the war between Russia & Ukraine is a lot closer in Europe than here i.Yes there are definite trade offs About itineraries ,all are recommendations to a cruise line that needs more revenues both in births filled as well as at sea spending .Candidly I really don't care if HAL keeps the same old same old itineraries , It is not my own business running nor am I currently a share holder in CCL stock .Just far too risky FWIW the companies today that will be financially healthy & here tomorrow are the ones more innovative & with new ideas which are part of originality & innovation 😃

Needless to say I am not running the cruise line ;however, what would Apple be today if not for inventive innovation ?

You said it so it "must " be right LOL

We understand but it will take much new innovation this time to stay in business . The crunch or better vise is happening as we speak .costs are accelerating for both the cruise lines & consumers ,It is getting to the point of suer saturation

What are you talking about getting a reply from one of many government assistants to the Federal Reserve .Yes I said many LOL

common give us a break , That is weak , Here in Calif hundreds of thousands of small business went out of business during the height of the pandemic nit the big box stores like Walmart ,Target ,home Depot ,Lowes ie .more small business will fold in this economy because one they don't have the free cash flows that giants have & certainly they do't have diversified markets like the giant corps do

Here is a link from Barons :https://www.barrons.com/articles/carnival-stock-earnings-51664551737?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

But they can hardly afford a marketing department .This is why big business can do so much better with well educated & experienced teams of professionals than a mom & pop operation . Today it is either grow or leave . There is really no in between

It seems to me that the parent company hasn't done very well with their extremely high debt facing them daily .Catch this one ,Carnival corp has to make $196 million in profits not gross sales when the Federal Reserve just increases the interest rates by just 1% yes one percent .so if this corporation needs to keep their doors open they should at least listen to fresh ideas .I am not running their business but they sure are & the stock price does not reflect that they are doing a great turn around job just saying .Last price for CCL stock I just saw was $6.99 per share

Come on there is never a "Marketing Nightmare " . what is important is that any business listen to their customers .I don't mean the ones that ***** & gripe all the time ;but ,when there is concern over product or stale sales it behoves a good marketing manager to do more market research before the roof caves in & part of the research are consumer groups

Any small business can hardly compare to decisions made by corporate business plans of which the marketing plan is vital to the business plan being successful .

Yes agreed about the airline costs whether you are on the East or West coast & flying to the opposite coast ;but please don't put down Mexican ports ;as we don't down the Caribbean ports .all ports have their charms & dislikes .We know having 87 cruise history doing the world cruising

Checked recently a R/T on Alaska airlines to Ft Lauderdale was $1056 for 2 people coach seating

That is great if you live on the East Coast near Florida ports .so just for starters add in the much higher cost of flying today to get to the embarkation port

I understood from the get go that cruise lines are in this business to make profits ;however ,I can not believe that occasionally the cruise lines can change the itineraries to juice up the publics interest . The same old becomes the same old or perhaps there are going to be new cruise lines that will adapt more flexibility into their itineraries coming to the business ,liking to Virgin & Viking