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There was the Renissance cruise line back some time ago when the creditors closed down on the line operators ,the pax had to vacate all ships the same day . Many of those smaller ships were sold off to Azamara & one to Princess The point I am making here is that it has become rather uncomfortable to have to check financials of these cruise lines just to take one of their vacation cruises . The question then begs how will this uncomfortable feeling spread among the pax considering cruises as a vacation option or do they look more toward other vacations ? Word of mouth can bear a good or a bad impact on any business . We have 6 future cruises booked ,starting Dec 10th on Kpningsdam for a B3B ,12 night total Mexican Riviera . then 2 B2B 7 night cruises on Celebrity March 2023 & finally ,RCL 2 cruises B2B in October 2023 We are hoping to see HAL open up a R/T Hawaii from San Diego around October 21st for the 2024 season ;which I would book immediately if I feel comfortable about the future of the cruise industry . Yes we now have doubts & maybe just maybe we should have given more thought to the finacial future of these cruise lines . Thus ,there are alternative all inclusive land vacations & even other privately held cruise lines .Just saying So if these thoughts are in my mind could they also be in the minds of other propspective customers ? We won;'t know that answer for awhile yet

So what happens to the pax on board a cruise if a cruise line files for BK i filed when a ship is on it's itinerary cruising ?

Most any Celebrity ship is good for Alaska , The main questions i would have is are you booking a balcony cabin or one with out a balcony ;because then you need a ship with a good veranda to walk & view the Alaska scenery . Another question to ask is there a naturalist /ranger . Marine biologist aboard to explain what you are seeing Imo a cruise to Alaska is like the topping on a sundae . The real taste of Alaska is traveling the interior . We have been to Alaska 5 times ^ would welcome another interior trip by flying directly into Anchorage or Fairbanks then renting a car . A great month is May before the tundra becomes water pools for the state bird ,the mosquito .There are also black flies later in the year that can sting To see Denali National Park must make reservations 6 yo 9 months in advance ,Take powerful binoculars & a camera that has 200 & 300 millimeter lense capability Best place to stay near to the park is the Denali Lake View Inn ,a triple A AA 3 diamond bed & breakfast just about 10 to 15 minute drive from the park entrance , The management is great Ask for a box lunch to take on the tour of the park , ask them where best to eat lunches & dinners .They are locals . This B&B over looks a amazing lake Otto with Geese Swans & ducks .Next door is a ATV place ,Take the tundra tour . Mt Mckinley is 20 ,300 feet tall . I was able to get clear pictures ,no clouds of both the North & south summits . The tour is wonderful , don't forget to ask about the dog sled demo at the information building in the park One last thing google :discount books in Alaska .We had one & it saved us a bunch in separate tours . We did several Wear layered clothing like a short sleeve shirt /blouse ,slacks , bring a sweater ,a wind breaker , wool gloves & a umbrella , Alaska weather can change quickly ,We were lucky in May have mid 70s & low 89s temps Best of Alaska is both a cruise & then inland .imo one with out the other is leaving short the real beauty & majesty 😀

We won;'t speculate which of the big 3 will go into BK or reorganize first ,2nd ie . That simply is a guessing game . what is important will be if & when a cruise line files BK & protection for reorganizing what happens to deposits on the cruises ? for people who are physically sailing are they told to get off the ships some where in a foreign land ? These seem to me to me the most important questions going forward So mow folks can speculate on the above possibilities

See my post above

Feel so sorry for those 41 people just thinking if it was us on that bus .May God protect them all 🙏

The time Micky the chairman at that time broke the deal that RCL had to buy Princess cruise line .He planed the deal break where RCL wound up getting a paltry 35 million for the break up . with out the Princess line reputation CCL will never have been the company they became before the pandemic .so just imagine how the management of RCL felt loosing Princess . I am sure if I dug into the financials I could come up with other examples but ,if you are curious please have at it . All I did was take out with my insurance default /BK to protect my investment for my 2 Holland Cruises . My other 4 cruises are with Celebrity & RCL ships I truly like HAL cruise line & hope it survives in it's very long sea faring traditions . CCL like all big corporation s are in it to get what ever they can get out of it & the top people "never " get hurt or the shaft

Candidly I have found in its history that Carnival Corp is far more devious that heir rivals when it comes to these financing deals

This type of lining ones pockets is nothing new with the top of the pyramid

anyof the financing instruments carry high interest charges .This gives CCL the cash to operate but at a high debt service cost .Now compare the issuing of new billions of shares that pay no dividends ,now this is free money & no strings attached .That is the difference between issuing new shares any other debt instruments .Today Wednesday ,Oct 19 ,2022 CCL stock futures have turned red

A possible solution just keep adding more stock to the bloat . already added 2 billion new shares so why not 3 or 4 more billion shares ?

Perhaps when we cruise on Soltice B2B & go to new cruises ,we can ralk to the rep & recommend that Celebrity bring back the round trip Hawaii cruise from San Diego .We are Elite Plus with X so we have come to really like sailing with Celebrity .Last time Hawaii was on the Infiniti like the OP was commenting as well . It was a really good cruise . We also did it on Century when she was in Service

Sorry I had a night mare dealing with Princess on how to down load their Ocean Ready program . since they hired new people post pandemic none of those people & over 6 hours on the phone had any clue of what to do . I still have the $934 FCC with Princess that expires after Dec21 ,2022 .I turned around & booked a B2B with Holland America from San Diego ,our home port because it was so easy for me to go into my account & out un all the pre boarding information as well as I immediately got all my bag tags . By Oct 27th I will have our 2 boarding passes The crappy experience I had with Princess drove me away for ever . I had no grudge against any cruise line but what those people did who were totally untrained was never to be forgotten BTW high jacking this thread to tout Princess is against Cruise Critic rules This is the Celebrity Board not the pro Princess board 😡

Thanks for your post .Although I could not open the link ,I marked my Calendar to look for these new cruises on Saturday .Oct 22nd We are particularly interested in the Hawaii R/T San Diego cruise BTW the 1st playoff baseball game between our San Diego Padres who beat the league leading Dodgers & The Philadelphia Phillies starts today Tuesday ,Oct 18 in San Diego . It will be a exciting march up😀

That can depend if there are no cases detected on board ;however ,if cases are detected then I would be almost positive that masks would be mandatory

So we can then anticipate that this 18% is also included in both Tamarind & Canaletto specialty restaurants meals

Does anyone know if HAL's Kpningsdam will be doing a October or November 2024 R/T SD to Hawaii ? .We like to book it early on . TIA for the info

We have had to sail on Holland America recently for a R/T SanDiego to Hawaii .not that HAL is a bad cruise line but we are Elite + & would enjoy this cruise . We had done that cruise on the Infiniti in the past long ago

Several cruises come to mind with HAL .you can enjoy a trans Atlantic coupled with a B2B cruise . flying across the Atlantic is then reduced to one way flight . coming back to the states from Europe you fly in the day time . Going to Europe are red eye flights . Another interesting cruise is south America & the ant Artic or WestCoast usually from San Diego to Australia

True but this is present tense . I just bought a lot more US Gold coins . Try & get them now as most dealers are all sold out . Those people know that real trouble is brewing with our economy & US dollar having only value based on the GDP which is now shrinking . In notthe too distant future a new currency backed by precious metals . This had yo come as the debt can never be paid off . Also all control has been by the printing of fiat dollars . Don't be fooled by what you see . There is a whole lot going on that is not seen ,

Me thinks HAL needs some more n ew ships so we all can have a better choice

We hope that HAL's scheduling dept . gets the Kuningsdam to service Sam Diego late in 2023 /early 2024 like to do a Hawaii R/T cruise again