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    Diamond Princess passenger "tested positive for Wuhan coronavirus"

    in Princess Cruises

    Posted · Edited by fragilek
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    8 minutes ago, AlyssaJames said:


    How many negative tests did each person who was disembarked receive?

    Certainly for any I have followed just the 1.

    However,  note that the guidance I quoted is for EU and is open to a bit interpretation/scope of when 2 tests are required. ( in the case Dp passengers I think it would be 2 and is probably why they will quarantined and retested). I do not know the Japanese guidelines.

    I put this up to show that the medical community is fully aware that this test is based on viral load and not on there being any virus at all . ( most virus tests are)

     But this virus differs in that the viral load can stay very low ( undetectable) for longer than its counterparts. Thus the test is less reliable than some others.

     

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    Princess wont refund me for cancelled trip

    in Princess Cruises

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    Firstly I hope for anyone caught up in this that princess can sort out a good solution  it does seem like they have tried to so far

    It is a horrid position for those worried about their travel, however  it isn't princesses doing and I am sure it's a exeptional situation for them too.  

    Secondly  can I say once again  to those shouting about insurance . Cancel for any reason it not available to all counties. Not for uk or Australia and I believe many other eu nations too. Infact with my health conditions  the best ( and very expensive ) insurance I can get has a $500pp excess for cancellation  even if I am ill 

     

    UK can only cancel if u or someone travelling with is ill or die or a close relative is very ill from a previous non existing condition.

    Diamond Princess passenger "tested positive for Wuhan coronavirus"

    in Princess Cruises

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Two4Sea said:

     

    But the rate of new positives is growing slower than the rate of total passengers finally getting their first test.

     

    Bill

     So far those in the know ,including one of  Japans leading virologist, CDC, UK, HK, and Aus  have requested an additional 14 days quarantine, and now even Japans own Health Minister is asking the leaving passengers to try and stay home 

    https://t.co/J6tK7XYWr1?amp=1

    Health Minister Katsunobu Kato after meeting with experts later in the day, he urged the former passengers to refrain from non-essential outings and try to stay home for about two weeks.
    So I will bow down to their knowledge of the situation and would think that they are not convinced that isolation on the ship worked. 
     
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    Diamond Princess passenger "tested positive for Wuhan coronavirus"

    in Princess Cruises

    Posted · Edited by fragilek

     I have just read a tweet from @shannonvo who is leaving the ship (if results are negative ) -She lives in Japan. Today for the first time she mentions further 14 quarantine. She has never mentioned this before, up until now just talk of leaving to go home until yesterday when she mentioned may be more complicated and then this today. From all her tweets she seems lovely and is with her husband and son- 

     

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    Diamond Princess passenger "tested positive for Wuhan coronavirus"

    in Princess Cruises

    Posted

     I have been following a family on board who stay in  japan.  They have probably been one of the best posters about this and I have admired their resolve and handling of the situation.  But today they seem to be down and posting stuff that would suggest that they will not just get to walk off the ship.  I am not sure if it is just because her results are not back yet or if she has found out more info about after leaving- 

    @shannonvo

    "I think my home is japan is complicating matters. But I have faith we will be ok eventually. Thank you so much for your support!"
     
    The reply from someone was 
    That gov might try to quarantine you 14 days again... just like in
     
    🇺🇸
    & that would SUCK! I was told because of Golden Week and the Olympics Japan is gonna be strict. Please keep tweeting until your “home” .... so ppl can send you care packages
     
    🥃
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    2:43 PM · Feb 18, 2020·Twi14m

    Diamond Princess passenger "tested positive for Wuhan coronavirus"

    in Princess Cruises

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    2 minutes ago, em-sk said:

     

    Looks like the Canadian flight is delayed until Thursday.  For the China evacuation flights Canada used HiFly out of Portugal to operate the aircraft and then Canadian medical personal on the aircraft to monitor and look after the passengers.  Not certain what is special about HiFly but a number of countries have been using them.  Given the aircraft is currently in Lisbon sounds like a similar setup again. 

     

    https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/flight-to-evacuate-canadians-from-cruise-ship-expected-to-depart-japan-on-thursday

     

    According to Mattew Smith some may be off by them

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    Diamond Princess passenger "tested positive for Wuhan coronavirus"

    in Princess Cruises

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     I know there are doctors looking in on this board.  so can you comment on the following

     

    In certain  situations you are required to do both forward and reverse barrier care/ observation.  I know when I was in quarantine most of the time it was me being protected so reverse barrier was used. However for 4 periods in the 7 months I took sepsis and had infections (all caused by my own internal"normal" organisms so not brought into me).  In these periods the level/type of protection and protocols changed as I was both in quarantine for my sake but also for other susceptible patients on the ward (all in their own isolation rooms but sharing doctor/nurses etc).  I watched the amount of work just getting gowned up and stripped down took to do this.  Certain order of off /on clean/ re-clean which was very different when I had infection - strip down area and bins had to be in my room but sealed from me.  2 layers of certain stuff used - dirty/ sterile was the normal for any treatment throughout but they added another level when I was infected.

     

    Assuming that if the ship was in complete quarantine then both forward and reverse care would have to have been used.  My question is was there any attempt at this especially once a room mate had been diagnosed.  Do any doctors think that it could ever have be done on a ship.

     

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    News on the Westerdam

    in Holland America Line

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     the  Cambodian PM Hun Sen wasn't the only photo opp risk taker

    @USAmbCambodia

    I’m on board the #Westerdam with my family to greet fellow Americans. Wow! The seven-member Hampton family from Missouri is high-spirited & making the best of their difficult journey. We’re working with Cambodian friends to help the Hamptons and their fellow passengers get home.

     

    and another @USEmbPhnomPenh

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    Diamond Princess passenger "tested positive for Wuhan coronavirus"

    in Princess Cruises

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Grburkart said:

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    Without being there, I would be positive that the Princess gurus didn’t tell the staff NOT to wear masks. In those early stages that we talk of, communication was confusing at best. I’m only making this up but what if there weren’t enough masks to go around? The passengers get looked after first, and the crew should then be idolized for their efforts. 

    Glenn

     I think what is being referred to is the photos of crew with the masks hanging round there necks while smoking and chatting on deck. It was then pointed out that they sit and eat together so taking off to smoke and chat did not seem like a big deal to them.

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