What to do about drinking age

[candigirl41]

So TOTALLY Agree with you!

 

Thanks. My parents were English an thought the rules were wrong, but we adhered to them. I drank a beer on friday when I was under age.

 

Candi

[halos]

That being said. This country is completely backwards.

Candi

 

LOL...I think it's because this country is very young.

The problem lies in thinking and acting as if we are the be-all-end-all/best, when the fact is we really have a lot to learn.

I'm hoping we get it right eventually... and sooner, rather than later. :p

[L2J]

Rodney Carrigton ....look it up

 

Rodney Carrington's tune is called "show them to me"....not funbags and beer.

[nrdsb4]

I guess I just choose to raise my kids more independantly. As far as I am concerned when they are 18 they are adults and should be able to make adult decisions and take responsibility for the consequences of those decisions. I want them to be able to go out like I did at 18 and make responsible choices, not rely on Mom & Dad to set rules for them and punish them for not following through. That shouldn't be my job any longer. My job is to get them to 18 with ability to make those decisions with common sense, integrity, and responsibility. After that, I am there to support, guide, and lend a hand - but not to bail out. I've seen too many parents do the bail out route with no consequences and no responsibility for poor choices. End results were nothing learned and poor choices continuing with bail-outs expected and not appreciated. I refuse to go that route with my kids so I am teaching them responsibility now, so they know how to make good choices and take responsibility for their bad ones once they turn 18.

 

This attitude is becoming quite rare, imo. Society seems to be keeping their kids "children" for much much longer than our parents did. In the thread about the young man who got drunk and either jumped or fell into the empty swimming pool on RCI and was critically injured, I lost count of the times people referred to him as a "boy," "kid," etc. As in "of course kids do silly things," or "that poor boy should have been able to count on the net holding his weight," etc. Well, "that boy" was allegedly 23 years old! That is a full fledged adult in every country in the world, yet many among us still think of these young adults as children whose actions should be rationalized because they are "kids."

[LemurCat]

This attitude is becoming quite rare, imo. Society seems to be keeping their kids "children" for much much longer than our parents did. In the thread about the young man who got drunk and either jumped or fell into the empty swimming pool on RCI and was critically injured, I lost count of the times people referred to him as a "boy," "kid," etc. As in "of course kids do silly things," or "that poor boy should have been able to count on the net holding his weight," etc. Well, "that boy" was allegedly 23 years old! That is a full fledged adult in every country in the world, yet many among us still think of these young adults as children whose actions should be rationalized because they are "kids."

 

Interesting comment. I'm often guilty of over-using the term "kid" to describe myself and my friends, who are all in our 30s. And I agree, that there is a sort of over-extended adolescense going on. I don't know if it's the parents trying to keep their adult offspring childlike or the adult offspring stubbornly refusing to grow up. And I'm entirely sure if I should be commenting at all, as I just bought myself a Zhu Zhu Pet.

[Perfect Stranger]

This attitude is becoming quite rare, imo. Society seems to be keeping their kids "children" for much much longer than our parents did. In the thread about the young man who got drunk and either jumped or fell into the empty swimming pool on RCI and was critically injured, I lost count of the times people referred to him as a "boy," "kid," etc. As in "of course kids do silly things," or "that poor boy should have been able to count on the net holding his weight," etc. Well, "that boy" was allegedly 23 years old! That is a full fledged adult in every country in the world, yet many among us still think of these young adults as children whose actions should be rationalized because they are "kids."

 

That's probably because the individuals posting are old enough to be this kid's (oops) parents. It's all relative. Our local MLB commentators are constantly referring to the 20-something year old players as "kids".

[dan40]

I did not read all the posts. That being said. This country is completely backwards. Most countries have a legal drinking age of 18. If you aren't old enough to drink, then your parents should have to be responsible for you until you are 21 and you shouldn't be able to be in the military or vote. It should be all or nothing. If at 18, you can vote, enlist in the military be responsible for youself you should be old enough to drink. If you are 18 and get arrested for drinking you are tried as an adult. If you are not old enough to drink how can you be an adult? Just my 2 cents. My DD is 21 and I let her drink in Mexico at 16. It was one or two beers and she was fine. At 17 they let her drink at dinner with 7 other adults as long as we poured the wine. She had a glass with dinner. In England a child of 14 can have a glass of wine with dinner in a restaurant if accompanied by an adult. Off my soap box.

 

Candi

 

Perhaps its because that multi thousands of incidences have proved without a shadow of a doubt that 'kids' under the age of 21 are extremely unlikely to be capable of handling alcoholic drinks.

 

Yes, they can vote,WHEN SOBER!

Yes, they can serve in the military, WHEN SOBER!

And yes, they should be tried as adults when driving drunk at 18, 19, 20, 21, or 56.

I was still under 21 when I was air evaced out of Vietnam and went through surgery in the Philippines. Every evening I would go, in my sear sucker pj's and robe, and with my crutches, to a club on the base and get rip roaring drunk. NEVER did I associate my military service with drinking laws in the states. 2 different things.

[lebouefs]

Rodney Carrington's tune is called "show them to me"....not funbags and beer.

 

 

saw him live trust me he sings T**ies and beer

it is on his Morining wood album

[LemurCat]

Perhaps its because that multi thousands of incidences have proved without a shadow of a doubt that 'kids' under the age of 21 are extremely unlikely to be capable of handling alcoholic drinks.

 

 

I got news for you, there are multi thousands of incidences that prove without a shadow of a doubt that so-called adults over the age of 21 are extremely unlikey to be capable of handling alcoholic drinks. :rolleyes:

[lebouefs]

ahhhhhhhhhhhh child of the 70s too huh?;)

 

Cheers, Carole

 

 

i am only 30 but i have been to Adam a couple of times..... one of the perks of being staion in Europe...... i could not partake in the local herbs but i had a good time drinking heineken straight from the factory tap:)

[elcuchio24]

That's probably because the individuals posting are old enough to be this kid's (oops) parents. It's all relative. Our local MLB commentators are constantly referring to the 20-something year old players as "kids".

 

It does seem like childhood has been extended of late, I think it is the relationship with the current babyboomer parents and their kids. I am in my 20's and it's easy to see how people still consider 20 somethings to be kids, especially when half of them are still living at home........

[dan40]

I got news for you, there are multi thousands of incidences that prove without a shadow of a doubt that so-called adults over the age of 21 are extremely unlikey to be capable of handling alcoholic drinks. :rolleyes:

 

 

No news there, I'm in complete agreement with you. I'm well over 21, you could say well! well! over 21 and I can get as blasted as a teeny bopper.:eek:

[halos]

Rodney Carrington's tune is called "show them to me"....not funbags and beer.

 

fun bags?.... *groan*

 

I got news for you, there are multi thousands of incidences that prove without a shadow of a doubt that so-called adults over the age of 21 are extremely unlikey to be capable of handling alcoholic drinks. :rolleyes:

 

I agree.

It's more about level of stupidity than chronological age when it comes to drinking.

[LemurCat]

I agree.

It's more about level of stupidity than chronological age when it comes to drinking.

 

And some of it's just flat-out willfullness. I'm a classic binge drinker. When I drink, I drink to freakin' get drunk. In fact, I'm already clearing my schedule for tomorrow morning so I can come in hungover.

[halos]

And some of it's just flat-out willfullness. I'm a classic binge drinker. When I drink, I drink to freakin' get drunk. In fact, I'm already clearing my schedule for tomorrow morning so I can come in hungover.

 

LOL

Well, have a great time tonight, then :D

[ib4cruzn]

I believe the doggeral term for female mammaries is considered to be less than polite in it's usage.

 

Don't doggerals have six of them?

[MMCS Cruiser]

ahhhhhhhhhhhh child of the 70s too huh?;)

I play online cards with a guy sometimes on pogo who lives in Amsterdam. We are a weird breed to him.

They sell pot over the counter calling them soft drugs, right with the alcohol. He works for a soft porn company ran by........are you ready for this? Their govenment. And he's in some accounts payable or something like that, he's not saying he's the star so I'm pretty sure he's telling the truth. <shrug>

We are a victorian society here in the US and actually I'm good with that, except when it comes to judging others.

I'm a firm believer in live and let live as long as your not hurting others or exploiting others.

Ok sorry got carried away on the soapbox

Cheers, Carole

 

Live and let live unless your a vocal non-smoker:D

[LemurCat]

Live and let live unless your a vocal non-smoker:D

 

Wouldn't it be a case of "live and let die" then? :p

[elcuchio24]

And some of it's just flat-out willfullness. I'm a classic binge drinker. When I drink, I drink to freakin' get drunk. In fact, I'm already clearing my schedule for tomorrow morning so I can come in hungover.

 

Work said, if you don't come in today, don't bother coming in on Monday.

 

Woo Hoo! Four day weekend!

[halos]

Work said, if you don't come in today, don't bother coming in on Monday.

 

Woo Hoo! Four day weekend!

 

:eek: Should you actually be excited when your employer says that????? :eek:

[LemurCat]

Work said, if you don't come in today, don't bother coming in on Monday.

 

Woo Hoo! Four day weekend!

 

 

You win +5 interwebs for that Simpsons reference.

[lebouefs]

Work said, if you don't come in today, don't bother coming in on Monday.

 

Woo Hoo! Four day weekend!

 

 

sounds like a plan i will bring the blender and the ice

[halos]

You win +5 interwebs for that Simpsons reference.

 

LMAO..obviously you can see I don't watch The Simpsons......

[LemurCat]

John Adams and Elizabeth, were probably two of the best mini series I have ever seen. Did you happen to catch either of those?

 

 

Hey Halos ... to circle back ... I just re-upped my HBO. David Simon's "Treme" starts on the 11th. Lemur loves some David Simon. Homicide: Life on the Streets, The Corner, and The Wire are some of my favorites. Treme looks to be equally excellent.

[halos]

Hey Halos ... to circle back ... I just re-upped my HBO. David Simon's "Treme" starts on the 11th. Lemur loves some David Simon. Homicide: Life on the Streets, The Corner, and The Wire are some of my favorites. Treme looks to be equally excellent.

YES!! I am loking forward to seeing that!!!!....there was another series also that look interesting...it stars one of the thugs from the Sopranos...I forget the name of it.

(I'll go look)

GOT IT!!

Boardwalk Empire :)