Anyone else getting sick of this???

[pmang]

"I am sure you know what a driving force Cruise Critic is in your industry so I felt you needed to see this:"

 

"Carnival and you should read what the influential Cruise Critic members are saying and then see just how crazy this idea is."

 

 

 

These are just a few examples of a trend I've been noticing on John's Blog and this site......

 

How important do some of these posters think they are? Statements like this are made daily by some posters and how "influential" they are to the industry.

 

I would make a guess that Cruise Critic members make up less then 3% of the cruising public. Don't get me wrong, I think this site has wonderful information and can be a great source of entertainment. I know all the cruise lines monitor these pages to see what's being discussed and they will get some good and bad feedback to utilize. I just feel that some people get a bit carried away with how important they and their opinions are......

 

Your thoughts?

[mavis2222]

I feel the same way. But it happens on every board on internet, not just cruising. I guess Internet gives allot more freedom of speach since nobody is speaking directly so they just let the words fly.

[Justsyd]

I feel the same, too. I think people forget that there are others out in the world who have a different opinion.

[BABSIER]

Amen. I for one am really tired of reading John's blog and seeing some really rude posts from CC members. What gives them the right to comment on anyone's appearance or to imply that CC should be dictating Carnival policy? Just unbelieveable.

[boaterette]

What, CC is not the great OZ? Blasphemy I tell ya.

[sharecruises]

I agree....I really dislike how some try to "speak" for all of "us" here on Cruise Critic, when in fact we of course all have our own ideas

(and lots of disagreements/difference of opinion haha)

[stewpapa]

I daresay most cruisers have never heard of cruise critic and have wonderful cruises without all of our excellent advice! :eek:

[richstowe]

I daresay most cruisers have never heard of cruise critic and have wonderful cruises without all of our excellent advice! :eek:

Totally agree with this thread. Disagree with above. It doesn't mean the opinions on CC usually have any impact but CC does seem to be known.

[kcroxyoursox]

See, I always thought people like that were "tattleing" to John about what we were saying/doing. Like when they post threads about smuggling or whatever as though to shame us or score some proverbial brownie points. Who put them in charge of being the whistleblowers?

[kujobie]

"I am sure you know what a driving force Cruise Critic is in your industry so I felt you needed to see this:"

 

"Carnival and you should read what the influential Cruise Critic members are saying and then see just how crazy this idea is."

 

 

 

These are just a few examples of a trend I've been noticing on John's Blog and this site......

 

How important do some of these posters think they are? Statements like this are made daily by some posters and how "influential" they are to the industry.

 

I would make a guess that Cruise Critic members make up less then 3% of the cruising public. Don't get me wrong, I think this site has wonderful information and can be a great source of entertainment. I know all the cruise lines monitor these pages to see what's being discussed and they will get some good and bad feedback to utilize. I just feel that some people get a bit carried away with how important they and their opinions are......

 

Your thoughts?

 

Even if it's only 2 or 3%, that's a lot of people and cruise lines would be wise to monitor this site and see what people are saying, and I'm sure they do. That said, I agree with you. I don't believe in name dropping and expecting preferential treatment or being able to dictate company policy just because you're a member of this site. It's silly.

[Sinjan]

I know exactly what OP is talking about.

Personally I think it is very presumptuous of them to think they can arbitrarily speak for everyone on CC.

I understand every online community has it's share of people who have a highly developed sense of entitlement or never out grew their tattle-tale school yard mentality. But jiminy crickets do they ALL have to post on John's blog??? I can just imagine the impression people have of CC members after some of the postings I've read. I sure wouldn't have joined if I had found the blog before I found CC.

To be perfectly honest, after my cruise I doubt I'll be back anyway. Way too much negativity spewed around here on a daily basis.

[bigque]

This board is quite "TAME" to some other boards on the internet!

[LHP]

CC is a wonderful place to express ideas, share information and (even though we don't always agree) discuss pros and cons of any particular subject.

 

And while 3% (at least of Carnival cruisers....other cruise lines are far below that) is a nice number, the attitude that a few are speaking for the many is ridiculous.....

[xplor97]

"I am sure you know what a driving force Cruise Critic is in your industry so I felt you needed to see this:"

 

"Carnival and you should read what the influential Cruise Critic members are saying and then see just how crazy this idea is."

 

 

 

These are just a few examples of a trend I've been noticing on John's Blog and this site......

 

How important do some of these posters think they are? Statements like this are made daily by some posters and how "influential" they are to the industry.

 

I would make a guess that Cruise Critic members make up less then 3% of the cruising public. Don't get me wrong, I think this site has wonderful information and can be a great source of entertainment. I know all the cruise lines monitor these pages to see what's being discussed and they will get some good and bad feedback to utilize. I just feel that some people get a bit carried away with how important they and their opinions are......

 

Your thoughts?

I was thinking the same thing the other day. We cruise in exactly 30 days. Our roll call has approximately 60 people. On a ship that has approx 4,000 passengers. WE the influential cruise critic members make up 0.015% of that specific cruise population. How influential can we really be? Those that believe they are influential really are nothing more than glory seekers. I know that I am going to enjoy my trip, I know what to expect...expect the unexpected and have fun!

[tef43]

I would make a guess that Cruise Critic members make up less then 3% of the cruising public.

It is actually closer to 1%

[firefly333]

Solve the problem, just dont read John's blog. Then what people ask for and say never bothers you.

[onthehighseas606]

"I am sure you know what a driving force Cruise Critic is in your industry so I felt you needed to see this:"

 

"Carnival and you should read what the influential Cruise Critic members are saying and then see just how crazy this idea is."

 

 

These are just a few examples of a trend I've been noticing on John's Blog and this site......

 

How important do some of these posters think they are? Statements like this are made daily by some posters and how "influential" they are to the industry.

 

I would make a guess that Cruise Critic members make up less then 3% of the cruising public. Don't get me wrong, I think this site has wonderful information and can be a great source of entertainment. I know all the cruise lines monitor these pages to see what's being discussed and they will get some good and bad feedback to utilize. I just feel that some people get a bit carried away with how important they and their opinions are......

 

Your thoughts?

 

To be honest, that's the first time I have read those statements. I guess they don't influence me one way or another. There are people here who are knowledgeable about cruising and different aspects of it. I don't know if anyone is more important than anyone else here. Maybe just a bit more knowledgeable than the rest of us.

[mosaic_mom]

Solve the problem, just dont read John's blog. Then what people ask for and say never bothers you.

 

 

I agree. I see no sense in anyone complaining about what John says or does on his own blog if they have the option to not read it and choose to do so anyway. It's his personal thoughts. He can say and do what he wants to; it's his blog. But I really don't get the people going there and tattletaling on what people on CC are posting about. Sounds so immature.

[woodey]

"I am sure you know what a driving force Cruise Critic is in your industry so I felt you needed to see this:"

 

"Carnival and you should read what the influential Cruise Critic members are saying and then see just how crazy this idea is."

 

 

 

These are just a few examples of a trend I've been noticing on John's Blog and this site......

 

How important do some of these posters think they are? Statements like this are made daily by some posters and how "influential" they are to the industry.

 

I would make a guess that Cruise Critic members make up less then 3% of the cruising public. Don't get me wrong, I think this site has wonderful information and can be a great source of entertainment. I know all the cruise lines monitor these pages to see what's being discussed and they will get some good and bad feedback to utilize. I just feel that some people get a bit carried away with how important they and their opinions are......

 

Your thoughts?

I think every opinion or comment is important to Carnival or the Cruise line they are talking about....there opinon or comment does mean something to me

I work as a Manager in a Large Casino in Southern California..we have several other casinos and Las Vegas to compete with...our Buisness is to take money out of your hands and make sure you have a smile on your face while you hand it over to us....

We listen to every avenue we can to try and make there experience a better one...we reward the players that give us more money with free meals and rooms....we do what ever we can to keep them happy....the longer they stay the more money we get.....

 

I know what you mean when you say carried away...but those opinions are important also....as a viewer and a member Cruise Critic I try to stay above that attitude. most of those opinons are just as important to me as the rest.

[golfadj]

Agree with the OP 100%

[luckycruzer]

and very very rarely read his blog...maybe 10times since it started. Altho he is supposed to be on my Magic Repo in Oct, '11, it makes nooo difference to me who is running the CD show, on any ship, just if they are doing the job that they do, and do it well. 2 legs in their pants as well.

[StevieG]

While I may disagree with the OP's premise of representing everyone on CC the reality is that this site carries a lot of weight with the cruiselines. While they may only represent 3-5% of the total number of cruisers they represent a larger portion of actual cruises taken as they frequently cruise. They also represent brand loyalty so when they complain in mass that is a very bad sign. On more than one occassion I have seen Carnival capitulate after a massive blow up on this and other sites like this. So the do watch and they do care.

[LHP]

While I may disagree with the OP's premise of representing everyone on CC the reality is that this site carries a lot of weight with the cruiselines. While they may only represent 3-5% of the total number of cruisers they represent a larger portion of actual cruises taken as they frequently cruise. They also represent brand loyalty so when they complain in mass that is a very bad sign. On more than one occassion I have seen Carnival capitulate after a massive blow up on this and other sites like this. So the do watch and they do care.

 

That is an interesting point.

 

On the Dream in 2009, there were a little over 600 Platinum guests onboard with us (a record) .... and while that is certainly not all of Carnival's Platinum guests....I think it represented a good percentage....

 

when I did "the list per state" of Cruise Critic Platinum members (last time I checked) we had almost 400.....

 

I just bought the list forward to see if there are any more....

[*Mach*]

While I may disagree with the OP's premise of representing everyone on CC the reality is that this site carries a lot of weight with the cruiselines. While they may only represent 3-5% of the total number of cruisers they represent a larger portion of actual cruises taken as they frequently cruise. They also represent brand loyalty so when they complain in mass that is a very bad sign. On more than one occassion I have seen Carnival capitulate after a massive blow up on this and other sites like this. So the do watch and they do care.

 

 

With the exception of the percentage of cruisers (we're far less than 5%...) you're entirely accurate but that's not the issue. The issue is that a very few individuals are purporting to represent the consensus of what Cruise Critic members think and they are simply wrong.

As an example, one individual posted on John's blog that Cruise Critic members thought that John should stop doing favors for people. The post made it sound like nearly everyone was opposed to what he does when in point of fact a significant majority thought there was nothing at all wrong with what John does... 59% to 40%. In an election that would be a massive landslide...

I could care less what people say on John's blog but when someone, ANYONE, claims to represent the opinion of the entire Cruise Critic community they are way out of bounds...

Just my $.02....

[dan40]

I express my BLUNT musings to Cruise Critic members, ON Cruise Critic only!

 

John's blog is mostly tiresome politics. He is a company man after all and does know who butters his bread. And it is NOT "influential" or "influenza," Cruise Critic members.:p:D