Rare Tapi Posted November 9, 2010 #326 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Wonder if the fire was as bad as the Ecstasy: On the afternoon of July 20, 1998, MS Ecstasy had departed the Port of Miami, Florida, en route to Key West, Florida, with 2,565 passengers and 916 crewmembers on board when a fire started in the main laundry shortly after 1700. The fire migrated through the ventilation system to the aft mooring deck where mooring lines ignited, creating intense heat and large amounts of smoke. As the Ecstasy was attempting to reach an anchorage north of the Miami sea buoy, the vessel lost propulsion power and steering and began to drift. The master then radioed the U.S. Coast Guard for assistance. A total of six tugboats responded to help fight the fire and to tow the Ecstasy. The fire was brought under control by onboard firefighters and was officially declared extinguished about 2109. Fourteen crewmembers and eight passengers suffered minor injuries. One passenger who required medical treatment as a result of a pre-existing condition was categorized as a serious injury victim because of the length of her hospital stay. Carnival Corporation, Inc., the owner of the Ecstasy, estimated that losses from the fire and associated damages exceeded $17 million. The National Transportation Safety Board determined that the probable cause of fire aboard the Ecstasy was the unauthorized welding by crewmembers in the main laundry that ignited a large accumulation of lint in the ventilation system and the failure of Carnival Cruise Lines to maintain the laundry exhaust ducts in a fire-safe condition. Contributing to the extensive fire damage on the ship was the lack of an automatic fire suppression system on the aft mooring deck and the lack of an automatic means of mitigating the spread of smoke and fire through the ventilation ducts. Passengers received a full refund and were offered a complimentary cruise for the inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1028 Posted November 9, 2010 #327 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I wonder how many first time cruisers are trying to cancel their cruises. My neighbor is canceling her cruise on Destiny in February (she only paid a deposit thus far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHP Posted November 9, 2010 #328 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I wonder how many first time cruisers are trying to cancel their cruises. My neighbor is canceling her cruise on Destiny in February (she only paid a deposit thus far). That's a shame.... we have 7 booked and can't wait !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzdaan Posted November 9, 2010 #329 Share Posted November 9, 2010 From USA Today:One point for solar and wind emergency power generation on cruise ships. I have no idea if they have such equipment, but it would have come in handy today. Because the open deck space is being occupied by sun worshipers? Let me add something else here to that comment. I am installing solar PV on my roof. About 40% of my south facing roof will be used by panels and they will provide a maximum 5 KW of power. Solar is great if you have space and a good south-facing view. On a ship those panels would be inadequate for the needs of a ship and an aiming device would be needed to keep the panels pointed at the Sun. So they would provide minimal power during the day and nothing at night. Do you see the folly in your statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tapi Posted November 9, 2010 #330 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I wonder how many first time cruisers are trying to cancel their cruises. My neighbor is canceling her cruise on Destiny in February (she only paid a deposit thus far). That's worse than deciding not to drive to work because you saw a car accident on TV this morning... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHP Posted November 9, 2010 #331 Share Posted November 9, 2010 That is so true! Splendor Bride, some day one of your grandbabies will be saying, "Granny, tell us about when YOU got married!" You woudn't want a boring story to tell them would you? (OK, maybe you would, lol.) But I do agree that you are to be commended for your positive attitude. Kudos to the bride with the great attitude. Yes this will certainly divide the true "travelers" from the "non-travelers". We have been on ships that lost their "toilets" .... anywhere from 1 1/2 hours to a full day. We survived just fine....just part of traveling sometimes. I would rather lose the toilet facilities on a ship during a cruise than an engine on a plane during a flight. It is all about perspective...... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted November 9, 2010 #332 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I wonder if people are lining up at the Medical Center with all sorts of "ailments" trying to get off of that ship sooner rather than later. Doubtful they would want to be on Deck 0 without ventilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted November 9, 2010 #333 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I just read on U S A today. C om that the Toilets are working. I bet that was one big whooosh when they all fired at once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webzila Posted November 9, 2010 #334 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I wonder how many first time cruisers are trying to cancel their cruises. My neighbor is canceling her cruise on Destiny in February (she only paid a deposit thus far). Thats crazy. Does your neighbor also not fly because there have been plane crashes in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted November 9, 2010 #335 Share Posted November 9, 2010 According to USA Today cabin toilets are working again. Yes, of course they are now working .. I quoted the piece saying they are now working (so of course I read what I quoted) .. and added my comment on how it would have been until they got them up and working again... I must be confusing people again this morning what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted November 9, 2010 #336 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Thats crazy. Does your neighbor also not fly because there have been plane crashes in the past? Some people, especially new cruisers, seem to expect perfection on their cruises. On Crazies, Im sure some of those newbies will never cruise again .. and we only missed two ports. You should have heard how they carried on about how Carnival was blocking the weather and other conspiracies. It doesnt take much of a excuse for some not to cruise again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlendaleCruiser Posted November 9, 2010 #337 Share Posted November 9, 2010 My daughter honeymooned on Ecstasy 2 weeks before the fire. We just count our Blessings and realize that one thing does not lead to another. Prayers for those who are going through this situation and waiting for help to limp to Ensenada and get home. Thanks and praises that no one seems to have been hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arubalisa Posted November 9, 2010 #338 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I wonder if Carnival is giving them a full refund and announced what they are giving to these guys. No toilets flushing .. on a cruise ship. Im trying to imagine. According to CNN Travel and the Carnival news blog "Guests will receive a full refund and reimbursement for transportation costs, and will also receive a complimentary future cruise equal to the amount they paid for this voyage, Carnival said." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkjmt Posted November 9, 2010 #339 Share Posted November 9, 2010 i bet that was one big whooosh when they all fired at once! lol!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare nbsjcruiser Posted November 9, 2010 #340 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Thats crazy. Does your neighbor also not fly because there have been plane crashes in the past? People like this are looking for an excuse not to fly, cruise, take the train or whatever. If I was talked into a cruise and I really didn't want to go, I can see where I would use this as a great excuse to point my finger and say "see, this is why I don't want to go.". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_duck Posted November 9, 2010 #341 Share Posted November 9, 2010 If you want your 15 minutes of fame... "IF YOU KNOW ANYONE ONBOARD THE SPLENDOR, CONTACT US AT WXYZDESK@WXYZ.COM" http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/world/carnival-cruise-ship-splendor-adrift-off-mexico-after-engine-fire If it bleeds it leads. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2J Posted November 9, 2010 #342 Share Posted November 9, 2010 If it bleeds it leads. :rolleyes: aflac. fired up the q grill huh Duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karysa Posted November 9, 2010 #343 Share Posted November 9, 2010 How long before Norovirus spreads on this ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrdsb4 Posted November 9, 2010 #344 Share Posted November 9, 2010 How long before Norovirus spreads on this ship? No need to borrow trouble.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All4fun&fun4all Posted November 9, 2010 #345 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I bet that was one big whooosh when they all fired at once! I bet that was something. Could have created a black hole with all that suction. Glad to hear everyone is safe and Carnival seems to be giving fair compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_TheVirus Posted November 9, 2010 #346 Share Posted November 9, 2010 John probably had fun when the toilets started working again..."Ok, now everyone on deck 4, port side, let's hear it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted November 9, 2010 #347 Share Posted November 9, 2010 whats the status on the ship. i see toilets are working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenjens1023 Posted November 9, 2010 #348 Share Posted November 9, 2010 At the hospital where I work, the provision for loss of water is to put trash bags in the toilets. They can then be changed as needed. Perhaps the ship is doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetrizeo Posted November 9, 2010 #349 Share Posted November 9, 2010 ...One point for solar and wind emergency power generation on cruise ships. I have no idea if they have such equipment, but it would have come in handy today. Solar maybe but definitely not any form of wind power (impractical). Any wind just pushes the ship around, think of a sail. You need a fixed base to counteract the forces to capture energy. And it would definitely not work while moving. Any energy input would have to be overcome by energy output (more drag). Imagine a wind turbine on your car with it's tires on the concrete. Now imagine the car is on ice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maldenmusic Posted November 9, 2010 #350 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Wow how scary for those on board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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