njhorseman Posted December 10, 2010 #26 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Sailed the Gem on 11/27 and we were delayed after returning to NYC due to a sick passenger. We left well after 7pm and made it to Orlando by noon on Monday. To me this smells of a just an extra sea-day to generate more income! I don't like the approach of what NCL is pulling ................ They're skipping GSC, which is also an income generator for the cruise line, so I don't agree with your conclusion. After seeing the rescheduling of the Jewel last week and the Gem this week, my guess is that after the installation of the azipod thrust bearings they can't immediately go full-throttle as perhaps there is some break-in and testing that has to take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin6 Posted December 11, 2010 #27 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I know this sucks for those traveling, but you really have to feel for some of NCL's staff. Another week of shuffling things around and dealing with unhappy customers. Better than last week, but still some real hassles. Like a few others posted - no way in h e l l are they gonna turn that thing around in two hours. Why would they even post that? I agree...but if they are using their brains they may have stocked the galley in Boston and let's not forget that the cabins are unused and the staff should be getting everything in order while they sail down from Boston...they won't though and it will be a massive delay and a madhouse in NYC...especially at 5pm on a Saturday night two weeks before Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacewoman Posted December 11, 2010 #28 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I was just wanting to look at the webcam for the Jewel and NCL has a news alert main page. Said Gem delayed, not arriving in to NYC until 5 p.m., embarkation at 7 p.m. Hope everyone got notified this time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoying travel Posted December 11, 2010 #29 Share Posted December 11, 2010 The site is MarineTraffic.com http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?centerx=30¢ery=25&zoom=2&level1=140# This site shows the Gem sailing at 21.9 knots and she is currently south of Eastern Suffolk County,NY. Unless she slows down dramatically before reaching the harbor, she should get to the pier before 5PM. Of course I am going to be a passenger I am not a sailor. I am just telling everyone what I see posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planer's Edge Posted December 11, 2010 Author #30 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Okay, now the clock starts. Can she turn and burn in 2 hours? Personally I don't think so. That is a lot of people and luggage to board in that short of a time frame. PE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillynick Posted December 11, 2010 #31 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I'm gonna go with no...since not one passenger has boarded yet and it's 6:05pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auntierobin Posted December 11, 2010 #32 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I just looked and the Gem's web cam and it looks like she is already in New York. I know that she has been at sea all day, I checked about 7 am CST and I all saw was water, water everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planer's Edge Posted December 11, 2010 Author #33 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I'm gonna go with no...since not one passenger has boarded yet and it's 6:05pm Ruh roh! That's not good. PE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacepotatoes Posted December 12, 2010 #34 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Any word on when the Gem did leave NY yesterday? NCL will never be able to please everyone no matter what they do, but hopefully most of the passengers can get past the delay and have a great time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planer's Edge Posted December 12, 2010 Author #35 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Any word on when the Gem did leave NY yesterday? NCL will never be able to please everyone no matter what they do, but hopefully most of the passengers can get past the delay and have a great time. She left a little after 9pm EST and was last marked at just east of southern Delaware puttering along at about 17 knots. PE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arielmurphy Posted December 12, 2010 #36 Share Posted December 12, 2010 They pulled away at 9:24. I was told that almost everyone was in good spirits. They didn't start loading all the passengers until after 6:00 because they were loading up the stores first. They had done as much IT work as possible beforehand to make embarkation as quick as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Haynes Posted December 12, 2010 #37 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Well, they got more than two days to make up two and a half hours from last week that made the first port of call on time, or four and a half hours from the normal schedule... We will see if the Gem pulls it off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacepotatoes Posted December 12, 2010 #38 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Thanks, PE and arielmurphy! With all the speculation about whether or not the 2 hours would be sufficient, I was curious how long it did end up taking. Good to hear that people were in good spirits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camz Posted December 12, 2010 #39 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Sailed the Gem on 11/27 and we were delayed after returning to NYC due to a sick passenger. We left well after 7pm and made it to Orlando by noon on Monday. To me this smells of a just an extra sea-day to generate more income! I don't like the approach of what NCL is pulling ................ Sorry, however, I don't see this as logical with NCL's prospective. GSC is a major money maker for them. I could see a concern if they took away time from Nassau or other ports, however, not their own. I agree with another poster that they do not want to over push the engine work that was just performed. That would not be a good idea at all. The $100 onboard credit is another good faith effort from NCL, which I believe should be given praise on their part. Travel plans of all kinds from time-to-time get delays. Airlines delay or cancel flights all the time. Once in a while cruise itinerarites need to be changed as well. It may not be all that often, however, circumstance sometimes warrant these changes. All-in-all NCL stepped up once again to accommodate their passengers the best they could given the circumstances. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzjaz11703 Posted December 19, 2010 #40 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Can we request a full refund because of this? I mean it does change things quite a bit. Personally based on the weather this upcoming week, i rather go to warmer skies. I aggree, we should get a full refund! We left even later than they stated after each of the delays, no great stirrup cay, florida nobody cares about it was frozen any you could drive there, and only 3 hours of sun off the ship in the nassau because of " local protest, ship papers not in order, labor dispute" depends on what crew memeber you ask! This was a trip to nowhere! Thats not what I paid for!!! Wii Wall was rarely open, only when you begged and it was only open 45 min every other day or so. It was only an NCL advertizing comercial Wall! Rock wall was hardly ever open, again we had to complain to even get to use that. Not to mention the lines for the Wi and Rock wall. The soda card was a waste of money!!! And the "automatic optional gratuity" is BS considering the charge an additional 18% gratuity. They lost our luggage for several hours and ruined our first night, we could not shower or anything with out our clothes! anbody a lawyer? What about that class action law suit we all wrote our names addresses and phone numbers down for? Anybody hear from him yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillynick Posted December 19, 2010 #41 Share Posted December 19, 2010 You are very confused about the gratuity and I think you should do a little research before your next adventure.... JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob brown Posted December 19, 2010 #42 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I was on that cruise. You cannot blame NCL for the unseasonable cold weather we had. As far as rescheduling....under the circumstances, I think NCL made the best choice. True, whatever they chose, some would be unhappy. By slowing down and arriving early on the third day, those going to the Orlando theme parks had a longer than normal time to enjoy those venues. And it was really too cold to spend a day at the beach at GSC. So Nassau was a good choice, and it warmed up enough to enjoy our time there for the most part. And we got back on schedule Those on the Jewel the previous week got back 1/7 of their fare in addition to the $100. OBC. But they sailed over a day late. We only sailed about 5 hours late, and we got the $100. credit. So I think thats pretty fair. I didn't lose anything on shore excursions, as I did not book any. Perhaps those that did might be entitled to a bit more compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted December 19, 2010 #43 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I was also on this cruise, and while I had an OK time, I will make the following observations: * Service In the Grand Pacific Dining Room was slow and disorganized. Slightly better in Magenta. * Service In La Cucina was terrible (long waits, wrong/missing items) ossobucco entre very good; steak was very fatty & gisly. * Spa was excellent & worh every penny. Tile loungers very relaxing. *Buffet food quality wasn't very good, and was exactly the same every day. *Stateroom attendant and assistant were excellent. The next part of my comment needs qualification. I am a 49 yr old 1st generation Asian-American, with parents that immigrated from China decades ago. Both my parents, were on this cruise, and are fully assimiulated Americans. I have also taken this same cruise about 6 yrs ago, also in Dec., on the Dawn. * I would have to say that this cruise would seem to qualify as an 'IMMERSION Cruise'. I assume that with 2 ships sailing from NYC in the winter, it must be tough filling cabins; therefore, it was quite evident that NCL target marketed the Immigrant Chinese community in the metro NYC area. I have never seem so many Chinese-Americans on a non-chartered cruiseship(this was my 25th cruise in 11 yrs) I would say this sailing had about 30-40% Chinese Amercians on board; multi generational. There were so many chinese on board that half way on the cruise the buffet started to serve congee (rice porrridge) at breakfast. The next largest ethic group were Russians. It made for a very, very interesting cruise. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhorseman Posted December 20, 2010 #44 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I was also on this cruise, and while I had an OK time, I will make the following observations:* Service In the Grand Pacific Dining Room was slow and disorganized. Slightly better in Magenta. * Service In La Cucina was terrible (long waits, wrong/missing items) ossobucco entre very good; steak was very fatty & gisly. * Spa was excellent & worh every penny. Tile loungers very relaxing. *Buffet food quality wasn't very good, and was exactly the same every day. *Stateroom attendant and assistant were excellent. The next part of my comment needs qualification. I am a 49 yr old 1st generation Asian-American, with parents that immigrated from China decades ago. Both my parents, were on this cruise, and are fully assimiulated Americans. I have also taken this same cruise about 6 yrs ago, also in Dec., on the Dawn. * I would have to say that this cruise would seem to qualify as an 'IMMERSION Cruise'. I assume that with 2 ships sailing from NYC in the winter, it must be tough filling cabins; therefore, it was quite evident that NCL target marketed the Immigrant Chinese community in the metro NYC area. I have never seem so many Chinese-Americans on a non-chartered cruiseship(this was my 25th cruise in 11 yrs) I would say this sailing had about 30-40% Chinese Amercians on board; multi generational. There were so many chinese on board that half way on the cruise the buffet started to serve congee (rice porrridge) at breakfast. The next largest ethic group were Russians. It made for a very, very interesting cruise. 5 I'm not sure it was quite 30-40%, but there was also a very large percentage of Chinese-American passengers on the 12/12 - 12/19 Jewel cruise. I wasn't on your cruise, but I have been on the Gem four times, and we just got off the Jewel (and have a total of 17 NCL cruises), and I have never found the buffet to have exactly the same selection every day, except at breakfast. While there is a core selection of items offered every day at lunch and dinner, there have always been different hot items at every lunch and dinner buffet we've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob brown Posted December 20, 2010 #45 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I'm not sure it was quite 30-40%, but there was also a very large percentage of Chinese-American passengers on the 12/12 - 12/19 Jewel cruise. I wasn't on your cruise, but I have been on the Gem four times, and we just got off the Jewel (and have a total of 17 NCL cruises), and I have never found the buffet to have exactly the same selection every day, except at breakfast. While there is a core selection of items offered every day at lunch and dinner, there have always been different hot items at every lunch and dinner buffet we've seen. Paul, you are correct. We did have some variety on that Gem cruise in the Garden. Just ask me how many barbecue ribs I wolfed down one day they were offered.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boolie Posted December 21, 2010 #46 Share Posted December 21, 2010 To clarify...a passenger died the night before we hit Nassau. Rather than make that announcement (for the family's sake, I'm sure), the "strike" story was announced. The strike could have been genuine or not, no way of knowing. But we got the true version from a very knowledgeable source. A 64-year old woman had a stroke and died. Imagine clearing customs, medical examiners, etc., in a foreign country. Had to be time-consuming for the crew. And so, so, sad and hard on the family, who also had to clear customs, etc., in a foreign country to escort their loved one back home to the USA. Boolie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted December 21, 2010 #47 Share Posted December 21, 2010 To clarify...a passenger died the night before we hit Nassau. Rather than make that announcement (for the family's sake, I'm sure), the "strike" story was announced. The strike could have been genuine or not, no way of knowing. But we got the true version from a very knowledgeable source. A 64-year old woman had a stroke and died. Imagine clearing customs, medical examiners, etc., in a foreign country. Had to be time-consuming for the crew. And so, so, sad and hard on the family, who also had to clear customs, etc., in a foreign country to escort their loved one back home to the USA. Boolie Are you sure about that? Or is this IN ADDITION to the sick child that was helicoptered off the ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boolie Posted December 21, 2010 #48 Share Posted December 21, 2010 We were informed about it...and saw the ambulance transporting from the ship. Don't know why they used an ambulance, except perhaps to not alarm passengers. This happened Tuesday night and had nothing to do with the child whose life was saved by the medical staff and captain's decision to "put the pedal to the metal" during that storm in order to get to calmer weather and med-evac her to safety. We might have had a rougher than usual sailing, but the staff certainly had their hands full, and, in my opinion, did an outstanding job, considering all they had to deal with. Boolie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arielmurphy Posted December 21, 2010 #49 Share Posted December 21, 2010 From what I heard, it is true that unfortunately there was a death onboard and then later there was a child with pneumonia tha that to be airlifted to Charleston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arielmurphy Posted December 21, 2010 #50 Share Posted December 21, 2010 From what I heard, it is true that unfortunately there was a death onboard and then later there was a child with pneumonia tha that to be airlifted to Charleston. So sad for both families, hope the young child is doing okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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