Gold Coast Cruisers Posted May 30, 2010 #751 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Celebrity Constellation, Jillybean. Me too! Ohhhhhh nice......Constellation is a beautiful ship.:):):) Jillybean:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted May 30, 2010 #752 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Sorry no all up including taxes and port charges it will cost us $1511.50 each. I think you mean US$1611.50, as per my post above - converts to ~AUD1,920. Celebrity are charging $112.61 on top of the cabin cost. You'd said base cost was $1499 before - I've never seen taxes of $12.50 on a cruise as long as 14 days. Incidentally, the price for balconies on that cruise is now up $200/person to a minimum of $1811.61 = AUD2,157.00, so looks like you caught that special at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted May 30, 2010 #753 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Princess are currently advertising in our weekend press (? name of ship) - I thought a more comparable one given it's in November and Princess were the one compared to were the Sun Princess 26 October 12 nights at $1591 (I), $1917 (O) and $2589 (B), and also with $200 OBC. As said above, Florida's cheaper in general, but there's no surprise there as it has much competition and volume and as mentioned the two new ships alone add capacity equal to the entire Australian market. Moreover, with all that, prices collapsed the most there (understandably) due to the GFC which the US is behind in recovery compared to us. It's not demonstrative or evidence that the US is always cheaper. Even at the same time, with the same line, you could look at the NE which isn't as cheap thanks to the high incomes of New York - which is a relatively fairer income to sailings out of Sydney - and the Oct 9 14nt sailing of the Summit. Prices are US$1667.33 (I) = ~AU1,985, US$1,967.83 = AU$2,343 (O), US$2,567.83 = AU$3,057. (All prices are per person.) Compare those two cruises AU vs US, and the evidence is that Australia is cheaper than the US! All those US cruises also have much more expensive suites, which are much more uncommon here. However, thanks to the much higher number of balconies and suites that those ships have, the total revenue they earn is much higher than ships locally. It all balances out. It would not be as viable for them to deploy ships here like that, as it would not make as much money - witness the abrupt termination of the Millennium here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted May 30, 2010 #754 Share Posted May 30, 2010 I thought a more comparable one given it's in November and Princess were the one compared to were the Sun Princess 26 October 12 nights at $1591 (I), $1917 (O) and $2589 (B), and also with $200 OBC. I'd be the first to admit I'm not an expert on Princess prices, so I just took the lead in prices from this weekend's full page advertisement. However, I do know a bargain, when I see one, and Eileen got a good deal on an interesting itinerary, during a holiday period. The question is, "Would she have got a similiar deal here for the same cruise?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy and Charlie's Mum Posted May 30, 2010 #755 Share Posted May 30, 2010 I think you mean US$1611.50, as per my post above - converts to ~AUD1,920. Celebrity are charging $112.61 on top of the cabin cost. You'd said base cost was $1499 before - I've never seen taxes of $12.50 on a cruise as long as 14 days. Incidentally, the price for balconies on that cruise is now up $200/person to a minimum of $1811.61 = AUD2,157.00, so looks like you caught that special at the right time. I believe I said US$ in my first post regarding the prices! I said total cost to us is $1151.50 because we are getting an OBC of $200 per cabin. I think everyone realises that when you book on overseas cruise it will be in US$ and I didn't try to hide that fact. You seem to take delight in being perdantic about the exchange rate and the fact it could rise and fall at any time. We understand this fact and we take it into consideration when we book, but it doesn't frighten us off booking overseas. It is still a great price even if the aussie $ drops more. I am confident it will come back up again (now of course you will tell me all the doom and gloom about why that won't happen) But - if it doesn't it will still be a wonderful cruise even if it costs a little bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Walt Posted May 30, 2010 #756 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Reminder from our guidelines: "...This means you should not ask about someone's travel agent, nor should you respond in kind. Offering to email someone your travel agent's name or info is also not allowed, nor is asking members to email you for the information..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raison Posted May 30, 2010 #757 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Reminder from our guidelines: "...This means you should not ask about someone's travel agent, nor should you respond in kind. Offering to email someone your travel agent's name or info is also not allowed, nor is asking members to email you for the information..." woops, sorry!:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted May 31, 2010 #758 Share Posted May 31, 2010 I said total cost to us is $1151.50 because we are getting an OBC of $200 per cabin. (Re 1511.50) That's not the most clear. You still need to pay the US$1611.50' date=' and the OBC is a credit from later spending. It doesn’t reduce the cruise cost. Similarly in the comparison I used for the Princess cruise I pointed out that the OBC is additional, and didn’t try to reduce the headline cost. It is a bonus for the deal, but doesn’t reduce the cruise cost.[/font'] You seem to take delight in being perdantic about the exchange rate and the fact it could rise and fall at any time. Not at all. I’ve said nothing good or bad about the rate' date=' and used the latest one for conversion, so not sure why you made that claim. My point is to make a fair comparison. You don’t compare apples with oranges. I’ve converted into AUD so that people can see what that amount is, in comparison to the local cruises being compared against, as you referred to Princess locally. Similarly, I added in the taxes, to make pricing comparable with what you find in local prices. As stated before, gratuities were disregarded as they apply extra in both cases.[/font'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy and Charlie's Mum Posted May 31, 2010 #759 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (Re 1511.50) That's not the most clear. You still need to pay the US$1611.50, and the OBC is a credit from later spending. It doesn’t reduce the cruise cost. Similarly in the comparison I used for the Princess cruise I pointed out that the OBC is additional, and didn’t try to reduce the headline cost. It is a bonus for the deal, but doesn’t reduce the cruise cost. Not at all. I’ve said nothing good or bad about the rate, and used the latest one for conversion, so not sure why you made that claim. My point is to make a fair comparison. You don’t compare apples with oranges. I’ve converted into AUD so that people can see what that amount is, in comparison to the local cruises being compared against, as you referred to Princess locally. Similarly, I added in the taxes, to make pricing comparable with what you find in local prices. As stated before, gratuities were disregarded as they apply extra in both cases. And I am sorry, I called it OBC which in actual fact, it is not. This is a credit from Celebrity and it will be credited to our CC after final payment but before the cruise. So technically it is not OBC but a credit on the cruise price, thus making it $1511.50 each for the cruise in US dollars. Now, we won't know how much the cruise will be costing in Aussie $ until we decide to pay for it in full. Hopefully the Aussie $ will go up a little more between now and September 1 and if it does we will pay for it early. If it doesn't - well that is the gamble we all take when we book with overseas TA's and I am quite willing to take that gamble as it is still a lot cheaper than booking in Australia. If the AU$ drops to 35c we will cancel the cruise and get our deposit back, something we can't do with Aussie TA's :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miystic Posted May 31, 2010 #760 Share Posted May 31, 2010 We are Aussie and had this problem a couple of weeks ago, but ended up paying the Australia fare for a Diamond Princess cruise. I then decided to write to Princess Customer Relations re how much extra we are charged and not offered special bonuses etc. I sent a email to where I hoped would be Princess main office. BUT no reply, and now 10 days past. Would anyone know of a address I could mail the complaint to. I hope other cruisers will also write, I am sure if a lot of letters were received then they may consider lifting the ban for non US/Canadians booking. Gwen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted May 31, 2010 #761 Share Posted May 31, 2010 We are Aussie and had this problem a couple of weeks ago, but ended up paying the Australia fare for a Diamond Princess cruise. I then decided to write to Princess Customer Relations re how much extra we are charged and not offered special bonuses etc. I sent a email to where I hoped would be Princess main office. BUT no reply, and now 10 days past. Would anyone know of a address I could mail the complaint to. Their Australian address is: (physical) Princess Cruises 15 Mount Street, North Sydney, NSW 2060 Postal: Princess Cruises PO Box 2006, North Sydney NSW 2059 You could also use the US address: Princess Cruises 24844 Avenue Rockefeller Santa Clarita, CA 91355 Note: Turnaround from the Australian office is usually very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raringtogo Posted May 31, 2010 #762 Share Posted May 31, 2010 We are Aussie and had this problem a couple of weeks ago, but ended up paying the Australia fare for a Diamond Princess cruise. I then decided to write to Princess Customer Relations re how much extra we are charged and not offered special bonuses etc. I sent a email to where I hoped would be Princess main office. BUT no reply, and now 10 days past. Would anyone know of a address I could mail the complaint to. I hope other cruisers will also write, I am sure if a lot of letters were received then they may consider lifting the ban for non US/Canadians booking. Gwen by the way, this is not a new policy from Princess- it has been in place for around 4 years at least (although obviously it isn't fool-proof as many of us can still book Princess cruises overseas) good luck and I hope you get a reply from them at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotl Posted October 29, 2010 #763 Share Posted October 29, 2010 So what if you have an Aussie passport, you could be "working" temporarily in the US. They don't check for work visas or green cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Kruzer Posted October 29, 2010 #764 Share Posted October 29, 2010 So what if you have an Aussie passport, you could be "working" temporarily in the US. They don't check for work visas or green cards. Good point . I wonder how Princess treat Americans , who live in Australia ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted October 30, 2010 #765 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I think one of the reasons for the difference in cruise prices, Aus v US is that the cruise lines are not adjusting their prices in line with the value of the US dollar. Should be just about equal at the moment but cruise prices do not reflect this. Although I must say, our Star Princess cruise around South America was cheaper with an Aussie on line cruise agent than it was with a couple of the big US on line t/a's. Also booking direct with HAL for our Westerdam cruise was the same price as the big US cruise agents on line and a little less than the Aussie t/a's. We will also get any price reductions, well so we are told, mmm, wait and see on that one. At the end of the day, call me silly, but we must protect the Australian t/a's to an extent, not their fault the cruise lines are not giving our t/a's bottom line prices, although things have improved. I will not book with any US t/a, patriotic I may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted October 30, 2010 #766 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I support cruise lines which offer Australians "2 for the price of 1" prices here in Australia, from inception. I am looking forward to MSC coming Down Under in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougo in oz Posted October 30, 2010 #767 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Although I must say, our Star Princess cruise around South America was cheaper with an Aussie on line cruise agent than it was with a couple of the big US on line t/a's.quote] Les, We're on the Star Princess in January '11 and we're really looking forward to it - not the rough weather tho' which I hear in those waters, can be smooth sailing on one cruise and like a washing machine on the next. May I ask how much you paid all up for your cabin and what type of cabin - inside / outside / balcony / midships, etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted October 30, 2010 #768 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Although I must say, our Star Princess cruise around South America was cheaper with an Aussie on line cruise agent than it was with a couple of the big US on line t/a's.quote] Les, We're on the Star Princess in January '11 and we're really looking forward to it - not the rough weather tho' which I hear in those waters, can be smooth sailing on one cruise and like a washing machine on the next. May I ask how much you paid all up for your cabin and what type of cabin - inside / outside / balcony / midships, etc ? Dougo, we paid $3500 inc taxes for the 29 dayer through a large WA on line T/A. That was for Cabin E210, clearview through the lifeboats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougo in oz Posted October 31, 2010 #769 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Dougo, we paid $3500 inc taxes for the 29 dayer through a large WA on line T/A. That was for Cabin E210, clearview through the lifeboats. Les that's a good price for 29 days no matter where you're going. I was thinking you were going to Antarctica until I looked at your itinerary and then saw it was a repositioning cruise - it's a great itinerary. Are you staying on in the States when you disembark? We're booked on the DP with our US TA for 35 days - Singapore to Vancouver in April 12 for the same price as you I think, ocean view cabin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thied Posted October 31, 2010 #770 Share Posted October 31, 2010 I think that once you have booked your cruise weather with US ta or not the price you get at the time of booking should not change but thats me and what I think. I do know a lot of you will disagree. the way I see it is a deal is deal and they should not be able to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted November 1, 2010 #771 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Les that's a good price for 29 days no matter where you're going. I was thinking you were going to Antarctica until I looked at your itinerary and then saw it was a repositioning cruise - it's a great itinerary. Are you staying on in the States when you disembark? We're booked on the DP with our US TA for 35 days - Singapore to Vancouver in April 12 for the same price as you I think, ocean view cabin. Doug, as per my signature..4 days in Santiago then embark Star Princess around South America, Valparaiso to Fort Lauderdale. One night in Fort Lauderdale then doing Westerdam in Carib, then fly to Quebec City, 4 days, then train to Toronto - 5 days, Niagra Falls etc, then fly to San Francisco 7 days, then fly home. away 2 and a half months. An adventure as is yours. As you said SKI ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougo in oz Posted November 1, 2010 #772 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Doug, as per my signature..4 days in Santiago then embark Star Princess around South America, Valparaiso to Fort Lauderdale. One night in Fort Lauderdale then doing Westerdam in Carib, then fly to Quebec City, 4 days, then train to Toronto - 5 days, Niagra Falls etc, then fly to San Francisco 7 days, then fly home. away 2 and a half months. An adventure as is yours. As you said SKI ! What a great trip Les. I hope you have fun being a SKI !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian family Posted November 29, 2010 #773 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Here is an article published in the Brisbane Courier Mail about travellers purchasing cruises from overseas agents and how the cruise lines are going to deny these passengers boarding. http://www.couriermail.com.au/money/money-matters/holidaymakers-who-buy-discount-cruise-tickets-online-may-be-denied-entry-says-accc/story-fn3hskur-1225961671477 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkmw Posted November 29, 2010 #774 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Here is an article published in the Brisbane Courier Mail about travellers purchasing cruises from overseas agents and how the cruise lines are going to deny these passengers boarding.http://www.couriermail.com.au/money/money-matters/holidaymakers-who-buy-discount-cruise-tickets-online-may-be-denied-entry-says-accc/story-fn3hskur-1225961671477 i noticed a price on the Radience from Sydney next October going around OZ with a well known US online site and it was $600 dearer than our aussie online sites rkmw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted November 29, 2010 #775 Share Posted November 29, 2010 I do not purchase cruises from US t/a's. I will not get into that arguement. BUT in light of the Courier mail article, is anybody from OZ who purchased a cruise through a US T/A worried about being refused boarding? Or has anybody ever been refused boarding because of booking through US T/A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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