footballgirl_86 Posted January 14, 2012 #226 Share Posted January 14, 2012 RIP to everyone who lost their lives.. such a sad time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanJ Posted January 14, 2012 #227 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Video from the rescue. Shows Port side lifeboats all launched and helicopters saving some of the folks aboard. http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/foto-e-video/la-concordia-dall-elicottero-1.3065141 Maybe the camera operator didn't notice, looking through the small viewfinder, but it looked to me like the gash in the hull was visible as he panned by. Look right around the 2:42 and again a few seconds later. The operator seems to be fixated on the other helicopter and didn't see the gash, or he likely would have focused in on it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitby Lass Posted January 14, 2012 #228 Share Posted January 14, 2012 We have sailed twice on Concordia and remember with sadness, now, the glitzy beauty of the public areas and the stunning impression this ship made when you first boarded. However more than this I recall the great service offered by the crew and am very saddened by the trauma and loss they have experienced. My heart goes out to those people embarking on their holiday only to end up in a most terrifying incident and the families who have lost their loved ones. It is probable that if this was the first night of the cruise an emergency drill had not taken place, as it sometimes does not happen until the second or even subsequent night, especially if more passengers were embarking at Savona. My thoughts are with all affected by this tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise1814 Posted January 14, 2012 #229 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Up close Day light video of the Concordia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5BJ4RtYIlI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise ship fan Posted January 14, 2012 #230 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Aren't they required to perform the drill before sailing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricruiser Posted January 14, 2012 #231 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Well, it may not be much on the news elsewhere but here in Italy it's been the number one story all night and this morning. This is what I'm understanding: The Concordia apparently hit some undersea rocks while coasting the Tuscan islands and started taking on water from a gash in the left side. The captain understood that his ship was in danger of sinking so he decided to bring it closer in toward the island of Giglio so it would settle down near the shore rather than sink in the open sea. The major inclination occurred as the ship settled in the low water near the island's port entrance. The passengers have all been evacuated but sadly there are three confirmed deaths at this point with several serious injuries. Some of the passengers are unaccounted for but are believed to all be ashore. The Costa Concordia is a beautiful ship and along with her two sister ships, the Pacifica and the Serena, at over 114,000 tons is the largest cruise ship in the Costa fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bum Posted January 14, 2012 #232 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Maybe the camera operator didn't notice, looking through the small viewfinder, but it looked to me like the gash in the hull was visible as he panned by. Look right around the 2:42 and again a few seconds later. The operator seems to be fixated on the other helicopter and didn't see the gash, or he likely would have focused in on it more. It's hard to be certain, but if it is a gash it's likely from when the captain is rumored to have rammed the dock in an attempt to keep the ship from sinking. That's just my uneducated guess based on the shape and the height (almost at the waterline). You'd expect the first gash to be lower on the hull if it was a result of grounding on a reef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakeDad Posted January 14, 2012 #233 Share Posted January 14, 2012 It's hard to be certain, but if it is a gash it's likely from when the captain is rumored to have rammed the dock in an attempt to keep the ship from sinking. That's just my uneducated guess based on the shape and the height (almost at the waterline). You'd expect the first gash to be lower on the hull if it was a result of grounding on a reef. But the gash is on the port side and the pier is on the starboard side.:confused::cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAAAmerican Posted January 14, 2012 #234 Share Posted January 14, 2012 May we pray for all the departed souls and hope no more now. My family lost kin near here in / on 14 June 1646 a.d. Grand Admiral Jean Armand de Maillé-Brézé killed at the Battle of Ortebello , at Sunset on his Flag Ship the Grand Saint Louis . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakeDad Posted January 14, 2012 #235 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Aren't they required to perform the drill before sailing? No, ships have up to 24 hours after it's orginal sail to do the drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvcruising2 Posted January 14, 2012 #236 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Apparently the gash is 30m long!! :eek::eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.M.T. Posted January 14, 2012 #237 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Sad, very sad. My thoughts and prayers go out to those injured and the families of those killed. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise ship fan Posted January 14, 2012 #238 Share Posted January 14, 2012 No, ships have up to 24 hours after it's orginal sail to do the drill. Then the law may get changed now. I have always done it before leaving port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakeDad Posted January 14, 2012 #239 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Then the law may get changed now. I have always done it before leaving port. This accident, and the deaths, has nothing to do with when the drills are held. There won't be any change in that. Just recently many lines started to allow drills without your lifevests being worn. Believe it or not it was for safety!! They found many passengers were getting injured AFTER the drills as people tripped and fell over the cords and tethers from people dangling them on the floor on the way back to their cabins!:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted January 14, 2012 #240 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I haven't read anything of the ship ramming the pier. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almost Packed Posted January 14, 2012 #241 Share Posted January 14, 2012 http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/13/10152446-cruise-ship-runs-aground-off-italy-deaths-reported story here to read. i hope the link is working. my thoughts and prayers to all involved. so sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicorn Posted January 14, 2012 #242 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Then the law may get changed now. I have always done it before leaving port. I don't think this will change the law either. Every cabin that I have been in has had the procedure either on the door or on the desk. Surely, as passengers we are responsible to make sure we are aware of these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazza18 Posted January 14, 2012 #243 Share Posted January 14, 2012 This accident, and the deaths, has nothing to do with when the drills are held. There won't be any change in that. Just recently many lines started to allow drills without your lifevests being worn. Believe it or not it was for safety!! They found many passengers were getting injured AFTER the drills as people tripped and fell over the cords and tethers from people dangling them on the floor on the way back to their cabins!:eek: Yes, I sailed on NCL Epic in Sept 2011 and that was true of their muster drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Blue Posted January 14, 2012 #244 Share Posted January 14, 2012 If there was panic on board and it was their first night on board, i for one would not have got my bearings to remember what was said at a muster drill, or where my cabin was to go and get my life jacket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainelycruising Posted January 14, 2012 #245 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The ship's machinery and electrical systems may not be able to be repaired to operate reliably again.....and pass the inspections and certifications necessary to operate the ship. It is unlikely, IMHO, that any ship would be returned to service with the same company after this. It will forever be linked with this tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted January 14, 2012 #246 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I've always had lifeboat drill before sailing (Cunard, Seabourn, Princess, RCL), the damage to the hull looks quite severe. I expect most of us are thinking just what our forefathers thought 100 years ago when the Titanic sank "how on earth could this happen in this modern day and age." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakeDad Posted January 14, 2012 #247 Share Posted January 14, 2012 It's hard to be certain, but if it is a gash it's likely from when the captain is rumored to have rammed the dock in an attempt to keep the ship from sinking. That's just my uneducated guess based on the shape and the height (almost at the waterline). You'd expect the first gash to be lower on the hull if it was a result of grounding on a reef. Sorry, but where did you see he rammed the pier??I have not seen this in ANY reports either from Italy, Costa or passenger accounts. Can you provide a link? The 165 foot gash is from running aground (or whatever they initially hit) so I'd like to know where you saw this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainelycruising Posted January 14, 2012 #248 Share Posted January 14, 2012 If there was panic on board and it was their first night on board, i for one would not have got my bearings to remember what was said at a muster drill, or where my cabin was to go and get my life jacket We all would; despite the ship listing at 20 degrees, electricity out of action; panic; confusion...........or would we? One wonders: do the locks on stateroom doors that operate via the passenger's card work in a power cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Haynes Posted January 14, 2012 #249 Share Posted January 14, 2012 When there is an emergency and they sound the alarm, they don't want you to go to your cabins. They want you to go directly to your muster station. They have additional live preservers by the lifeboats. Minutes can cost lives. Clothing and gadgets can be replaced, you life can't be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Presto2 Posted January 14, 2012 #250 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Have just seen the news re the Costa Concordia and have strayed over from the Celebrity / P&O forum to offer our deepest sympathy to anyone affected by this terrible tragedy. Here's praying that they have now got everyone off the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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