Off topic but: Thousands rescued as cruise ship runs aground.

[Drelix]

This is so sad :(

I hope they are all ok

 

What is there forum here want to have a look?

[cruiselover53]

I hope this was not the ship that P&O may have been getting.

 

What an intelligent comment :mad:

[thied]

What an intelligent comment :mad:

 

I would say it was about as intelligent as your comment:rolleyes:

[kuldalai]

Don't jump to any conclusions here . The Media love publishing something as fact that Snowy on the pier was told third hand by someone that used to work for Costa etc .

 

A modern well maintained vessel like Concordia commanded by one of the lines top Captains is more likey to have encountered a power steering failure or something of that nature .

 

Ships just do not run aground these days except that steering issues have occurred in recent years with increasing regularity, albeit not with the ghastly outcome of this occasion .

[Debsta]

A devastating blow to the entire cruise ship industry.

 

 

RIP :(

[bobhsv]

Absolutely terrible news. Our thoughts to all involved.

[bobhsv]

Just read that DFAT have announced that the ten Australians onboard are safe and well.

[Australian family]

From what I have heard it was only 2 hours into its cruise. I wonder if they had done lifeboat drill.

 

I remember on the Fairstar they only did the drill the first day out at sea, and in the afternoon.

[Flipper133]

The ship is now almost fully capsized :(

 

have a look here...there are 20 photos (sort of..some repeats)

 

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/gallery/gallery-e6frewxi-1226244443326?page=1

 

Glad I disembarked on Wednesday

 

cheers

[Debsta]

From what I have heard it was only 2 hours into its cruise. I wonder if they had done lifeboat drill.

 

I remember on the Fairstar they only did the drill the first day out at sea, and in the afternoon.

 

According to reports, muster was scheduled for the next day :rolleyes:.

For us seasoned cruisers we probably would have been less likely to panic even if muster had been done.....a new cruiser would possibly be more likely to panic even if they had been to muster.........it's just human nature :(

[Australian family]

According to reports, muster was scheduled for the next day :rolleyes:.

For us seasoned cruisers we probably would have been less likely to panic even if muster had been done.....a new cruiser would possibly be more likely to panic even if they had been to muster.........it's just human nature :(

 

That is scary.

 

Why is that they are allowed to do muster on the first day out??? International standards need to be changed.

 

The other problem would be that people aren't familiar with the ship, and this would have caused panic. I guess there will be a lot of horrible stories come out.

 

One thing that was in their favour was that they will still close to land for rescue.

[cruiselover53]

I don't think any number of muster drills would help when a ship tips over.I can't see anybody walking calmly to a muster station particularly if your station is on the side heading for the ocean.If my wife wasn't at my side when all this took place I don't really know how I would react

[Cruisegroover]

When I first started cruising the drills where conducted on the first morning but in those days the ships often sailed at 9pm or even 11pm. I have often wondered about the 'ease' launching of the lifeboats on a listing ship. Wouldn't that mean only half could be launched?

 

What time did it hit the reef - was it still Friday the 13th?

[Cruisegroover]

As a youngen I worked on the Fairstar and we were constantly drilled (as the do now here at least) on various safety issues each week. One drill I had to go into the lifeboat and be shown how to calm passengers etc. We launched and sailed off into the harbour (at Noumea) and I looked backed a saw a rope ladder down the side of the ship and oh no don't tell me we have to climb up the side of the ship to get back and sure enough we had to. But no amount of practice can prepare you for the real thing - people panicking etc.

[Royalty X]

When I first started cruising the drills where conducted on the first morning but in those days the ships often sailed at 9pm or even 11pm. I have often wondered about the 'ease' launching of the lifeboats on a listing ship. Wouldn't that mean only half could be launched?

 

What time did it hit the reef - was it still Friday the 13th?

I believe it was around 10pm on Friday the 13th. Due to the listing apparently some of the lifeboats weren't able to be launched. :(

[Sutho]

From the pictures the torn hull and major gash is on the port side and is now exposed as the ship is laying on its starboard side. That suggests that they may have counterflooded the starboard to raise the damage from the water and as a result it capsized and sank.

[Sandielle]

I believe it was around 10pm on Friday the 13th. Due to the listing apparently some of the lifeboats weren't able to be launched. :(

 

From our very first muster drill my DH has remarked that there is no way every person would be taken off by lifeboat once a ship has listed.

[bazzaw]

As an ex-Navy man, I have always thought that the "muster drills" I have attended now on 3 cruiselines have always been a joke. Trouble is - when something like this never happens for a long, long time, it is difficult to get people (passengers and staff) to take muster drills and the like seriously.

 

I find it quite unbelieveable and quite unlikely that undisciplined civilian people would head for a "muster station" somewhere inside the ship when it is obvious that the ship is listing badly, and in danger of capsizing or sinking. I am fairly sure that psychologically everyone would rather be "mustering" somewhere on the outer deck.

 

Perhaps this is something that needed to happen??? - and we will see some change in attitudes and procedures.

 

At least the Captain was able to "beach" his ship -- if they had been a lot further out to sea, this could have been a much bigger disaster than it is (or perhaps the ship would not have struck rocks at all??)

 

 

Barry

[bazzaw]

VERY interesting website here http://www.seanews.com.tr/article/ACCIDENTS/74284/Costa-Concordia-accident-navigational-error/

 

These rocks were the only thing I could see anywhere in the vicinity of Giglio Island -- but I dismissed them immediately as "not possible!!" - thought there must have been an underwater uncharted reef somewhere (also not really possible in the Med - surely??)

 

 

Barry

[bazzaw]

Here is the latest AIS track for Costa Concordia -- it tells a different story to that in the link in my posting above

 

Reports are that something happend to the ship - a bang and electrical problems , so the Captain headed for shallower water --- this track above would confirm that

 

Barry

[bazzaw]

There was , however , a LONG time gap ( 26 minutes) between the last two reports on that AIS track - the question then is, where was the ship between those two reports??

 

 

Barry

[bazzaw]

An interesting discussion here -- including a video of another Costa ship doing a "show off" close-in night time pass of Giglio Island , ostensibly for the benefit of islanders.

 

Video here http://video.corriere.it/nave-concordia-al-giglio-/9dfa5ea6-3e9b-11e1-8b52-5f77182bc574

 

Barry

[MMDown Under]

Just heard on the ABC news that there were 23 Australians on board and 21 have already been accounted for.

 

It also stated that the Captain has been arrested for abandoning his ship!

 

Is this line owned by Carnival?

[MMDown Under]

 

I find it quite unbelieveable and quite unlikely that undisciplined civilian people would head for a "muster station" somewhere inside the ship when it is obvious that the ship is listing badly, and in danger of capsizing or sinking. I am fairly sure that psychologically everyone would rather be "mustering" somewhere on the outer deck.

 

Barry

 

That is a very good point, Barry. Previously, muster stations used to be on deck. On my most recent cruise, our muster station was in a very crowded casino. I commented, at the time, who would gather here in a real emergency? I know I wouldn't, if the ship was already listing! Human nature is to head to the lifeboats!

[MMDown Under]

http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4711

 

News has extensive coverage.

 

If what it says under comments that the people hadn't had their safety briefing yet (only required within 24 hours of departure), is true, I can't begin to imagine the chaos and terror those people must have experienced.