geocruiser Posted January 20, 2012 #626 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I don't know if all of you read this. But it was very good. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16638399 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HALGirl Posted January 20, 2012 #627 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I don't know if all of you read this. But it was very good.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16638399 Good article. The latest is that the Capt ordered dinner for him and some girl after he hit the rocks. Other interviews say earlier. I think she is covering for him in her interview and I don't trust her account as she is an employee of Costa. I think they ate dinner, went to the bridge, he hit the rocks and then left the ship without the safety of the passengers as first priority. I bet the timeline will show how early he left the ship. Why no mayday or distress call from him or any of his officers? The passengers with cell phones were calling in the situation. Why isn't the media talking to the other officers? Is this because they too did nothing and are hiding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammiedawg Posted January 20, 2012 #628 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I was shocked the captain was released to house arrest. The Italian justice system does not compare to the American style of presumed innocence- or so we were told during the Amanda Knox marathon incarceration. The captain is most responsible but the parent company was lax in its oversight. Did anyone at Carnival Costa review tracking records of the ship? How do they oversee their captains and high officers? I'll bet from now on surveillance will increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fann1sh Posted January 20, 2012 #629 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Unlike the detailed informative BBC link, this Canadian one is high on emotional content, and low on facts...but seems to reflect the prevailing mood: http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/01/19/the-costa-concordia-shipwreck-as-an-italian-opera/?utm_source=_BPGb$NB8fkfi9l&utm_content=ml20&utm_medium=email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRL_Joanie Posted January 20, 2012 #630 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Unlike the detailed informative BBC link, this Canadian one is high on emotional content, and low on facts...but seems to reflect the prevailing mood: http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/01/19/the-costa-concordia-shipwreck-as-an-italian-opera/?utm_source=_BPGb$NB8fkfi9l&utm_content=ml20&utm_medium=email I cannot help but like the levity the journalist put into this article. There were a number of things mentioned, that I must admit, brought a smile to my face, just thinking of sitting in an audience watching such an opera. Thank you for this little light hearted spin on the 1 week anniversary of this tragedy. Joanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderhorn Posted January 20, 2012 #631 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Unlike the detailed informative BBC link, this Canadian one is high on emotional content, and low on facts...but seems to reflect the prevailing mood: http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/01/19/the-costa-concordia-shipwreck-as-an-italian-opera/?utm_source=_BPGb$NB8fkfi9l&utm_content=ml20&utm_medium=email A clever interpretation by Mr. Newland! Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted January 20, 2012 #632 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I cannot help but like the levity the journalist put into this article. There were a number of things mentioned, that I must admit, brought a smile to my face, just thinking of sitting in an audience watching such an opera. Thank you for this little light hearted spin on the 1 week anniversary of this tragedy. Joanie I too enjoyed it and marvel at how real tragedy can become such a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermeulT Posted January 21, 2012 #633 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Have you seen this news? http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Costa-CEO-says-captain-misled-apf-1369325267.html?x=0 Costa is turning their back on the capt... Including suspending him, not paying his legal fees, and joining the prosecution in a civil case against him.... For repeatedly not communicating the severity of the incident, delaying the abandonment of the ship. $10 says this dude commits suicide soon. I hope not. That's the easy way out. He needs to be punished for his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LAFFNVEGAS Posted January 21, 2012 #634 Share Posted January 21, 2012 This is a bit of the news that actually hit me and was a bit eery Related Content In this undated underwater photo released by Carabinieri (Italian paramilitary police) Friday, Jan. 20, 2012 two Carabinieri scuba divers swim next to the Costa Concordia cruise ship's bell, off the tiny Giglio island, Italy. The $450 million Costa Concordia was carrying more than 4,200 passengers and crew when it slammed into well-marked rocks off the island of Giglio after the captain made an unauthorized diversion from his programmed route. The ship then keeled over on its side. (AP Photo/Carabinieri) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner Posted January 21, 2012 #635 Share Posted January 21, 2012 How many Costa cancellations Vegas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LAFFNVEGAS Posted January 21, 2012 #636 Share Posted January 21, 2012 How many Costa cancellations Vegas? None that I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner Posted January 21, 2012 #637 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Interesting to see if there are none than the drama is overplayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted January 21, 2012 #638 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Have you seen this news? http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Costa-CEO-says-captain-misled-apf-1369325267.html?x=0 Costa is turning their back on the capt... Including suspending him, not paying his legal fees, and joining the prosecution in a civil case against him.... For repeatedly not communicating the severity of the incident, delaying the abandonment of the ship. $10 says this dude commits suicide soon. I hope not. That's the easy way out. He needs to be punished for his actions. Thanks, I hadn't seen this. Probably a smart move on Costa's part - put all the blame on the captain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted January 21, 2012 #639 Share Posted January 21, 2012 20/20 had coverage on it last night. Their simulation made it clear how many warnings the captain would have had about the rock before he hit it:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser87654321 Posted January 21, 2012 #640 Share Posted January 21, 2012 http://www.prefettura.it/grosseto/news/1416158.htm#News_22384 I haven't read every post so my apologies if this has been linked to previously; a sad list of the missing. Such a tragedy and so close to land and safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world~citizen Posted January 21, 2012 #641 Share Posted January 21, 2012 http://www.prefettura.it/grosseto/news/1416158.htm#News_22384 I haven't read every post so my apologies if this has been linked to previously; a sad list of the missing. Such a tragedy and so close to land and safety. Missing and now presumed dead. These may be the most unnecessary deaths in the history of unnecessary deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 21, 2012 #642 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Have you seen this news? http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Costa-CEO-says-captain-misled-apf-1369325267.html?x=0 Costa is turning their back on the capt... Including suspending him, not paying his legal fees, and joining the prosecution in a civil case against him.... For repeatedly not communicating the severity of the incident, delaying the abandonment of the ship. $10 says this dude commits suicide soon. I hope not. That's the easy way out. He needs to be punished for his actions. Thanks for the link - I hadn't seen this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_in_Spain Posted January 21, 2012 #643 Share Posted January 21, 2012 BBC News are reporting another body has been found. An unidentified woman bringing the number of dead to 12. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16666669 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted January 21, 2012 #644 Share Posted January 21, 2012 BBC News are reporting another body has been found. An unidentified woman bringing the number of dead to 12. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16666669 and unfortunately, another one with their life jacket one :eek: I believe that makes 6 so far with their life jackets on - makes you wonder:confused::confused: I pray God (or whoever you may believe in) that all these poor souls are resting in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Girl Posted January 21, 2012 #645 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Thanks, I hadn't seen this. Probably a smart move on Costa's part - put all the blame on the captain! Smart? Directing the blame on the captain doesn't absolve Costa of its own responsibility. Costa will undoubtdly find itself to be a defendant. It was, after all, Costa who hired, trained and paid this man. One other observation, of the 24 missing and presumed deal, only two were not passengers. Does this say something about Costa's training of their crews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world~citizen Posted January 21, 2012 #646 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Smart? Directing the blame on the captain doesn't absolve Costa of its own responsibility. Costa will undoubtdly find itself to be a defendant. It was, after all, Costa who hired, trained and paid this man. One other observation, of the 24 missing and presumed deal, only two were not passengers. Does this say something about Costa's training of their crews? Carnival PR and damage control is getting off to a very bad start: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9030212/Costa-Concordia-insulting-cruise-offer-to-survivors.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted January 21, 2012 #647 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Smart? Directing the blame on the captain doesn't absolve Costa of its own responsibility. Costa will undoubtdly find itself to be a defendant. It was, after all, Costa who hired, trained and paid this man. One other observation, of the 24 missing and presumed deal, only two were not passengers. Does this say something about Costa's training of their crews? don't misunderstand my comment - smart - as in Costa trying to re-direct blame. Since the captain has done it more than once, I think they all share the blame. To me this is a travesty that shouldn't have happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fann1sh Posted January 21, 2012 #648 Share Posted January 21, 2012 World Citizen - Carnival may be getting off to a bad start. But, I'm not any more impressed with legal geniuses who mouth off "What they should be doing is telling these people to get some legal advice." Traumatized survivors don't need slimy plaintiff lawyers, putting together class actions before the last bodies are found, any more than they need slimy defense lawyers looking for low settlements. How about, "What everyone should be doing is looking out for these peoples' long term welfare, rather than how to make/save a buck on their pain?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted January 22, 2012 #649 Share Posted January 22, 2012 World Citizen - Carnival may be getting off to a bad start. But, I'm not any more impressed with legal geniuses who mouth off "What they should be doing is telling these people to get some legal advice." Traumatized survivors don't need slimy plaintiff lawyers, putting together class actions before the last bodies are found, any more than they need slimy defense lawyers looking for low settlements. How about, "What everyone should be doing is looking out for these peoples' long term welfare, rather than how to make/save a buck on their pain?" Well said Patricia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRL_Joanie Posted January 22, 2012 #650 Share Posted January 22, 2012 30 minutes into Fox News Special Tragedy at Sea with Geraldo Rivera and I have to say this is RIVETING!!!! He is doing ONE HELL of a GREAT job laying everything out!! OK going back to the show. Patricia, Very well said!! Joanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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