Friends of Bill W

[cwbabe48]

Does anyone know if there are Friends of Bill W. meetings onboard the Eurodam?

Thanks

[jtl513]

Does anyone know if there are Friends of Bill W. meetings onboard the Eurodam?

Thanks

A HAL cruise without them would be pretty unusual IMO. They may not be well-attended, however.

[adrift@sea]

Recently spent a few weeks on board Eurodam. According to the daily schedule, meetings were held every day at 5 pm in the Stuyvesant Room, Deck 3. I don't know what kind of attendance there was.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Just check your daily Explorer program to make certain of the time and place for the meeting.

[Irish Eyes Are Sailing]

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is Friends of Bill W?

[jtl513]

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is Friends of Bill W?

Bill W(ilson) was a co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_W

 

Another group meeting that you may see listed in your daily Explorer is Friends of Dorothy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend_of_Dorothy

[Krazy Kruizers]

Alcoholics Anonymous

[Irish Eyes Are Sailing]

Thanks for enlightening me!:)

[solocanadian]

Bill W(ilson) was a co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_W

 

Another group meeting that you may see listed in your daily Explorer is Friends of Dorothy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend_of_Dorothy

Last couple of HAL cruises I was on they no longer called it Friends of Dorothy. Now called GLBT meetings.

[sail7seas]

Every cruise, every ship I always see Bill W meetings listed in Daily Program.

[mamaofami]

Every cruise, every ship I always see Bill W meetings listed in Daily Program.

 

 

Me too.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Last couple of HAL cruises I was on they no longer called it Friends of Dorothy. Now called GLBT meetings.

 

Right -- I noticed that change a few years ago.

Maybe 4 years ago??

[PathfinderEss]

Last couple of HAL cruises I was on they no longer called it Friends of Dorothy. Now called GLBT meetings.

 

Guess I haven't paying much attention, did not know they changed the name from Friends of Dorothy to GLBT, thanks Gail.

[Tampa Girl]

Is GLBT also an AA program?

[jtl513]

Is GLBT also an AA program?

Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transsexual

 

I take it you did not read the wikipedia link about Friends of Dorothy.

[Skoogs]

Having been to meetings on board HAL ships, all I can say is bring your big book, 12x12 and grapevines, cause you'll probably be alone, or worse. Carnival had the best meetings on a ship. Good Luck!

[Tampa Girl]

Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transsexual

 

I take it you did not read the wikipedia link about Friends of Dorothy.

 

 

No, sorry. Should have read it first.

[GeriatricNurse]

Last couple of HAL cruises I was on they no longer called it Friends of Dorothy. Now called GLBT meetings.

 

 

Actually, the correct order of letters is LGBT. ;) And do you know what the letters stand for?

[sail7seas]

Actually, the correct order of letters is LGBT. ;) And do you know what the letters stand for?

 

 

See Post #15 in this thread.

 

[bphman]

I never understood why they came up with these monikers. AA is a wonderful program that has helped countless people. And, LGBT is not a disease that needs to be hidden by the "Friends of Dorothy" name.

[RuthC]

I never understood why they came up with these monikers. AA is a wonderful program that has helped countless people.

At least as far as the "Friends of Bill W" name goes, my understanding is that Alcoholics Anonymous is an official group, and the meetings onboard the ship are not sponsored, or affiliated, with that group. It's my understanding that the ship is not allowed to use the "AA" name.

[CowPrincess]

I never understood why they came up with these monikers. AA is a wonderful program that has helped countless people. And, LGBT is not a disease that needs to be hidden by the "Friends of Dorothy" name.

 

At least as far as the "Friends of Bill W" name goes, my understanding is that Alcoholics Anonymous is an official group, and the meetings onboard the ship are not sponsored, or affiliated, with that group. It's my understanding that the ship is not allowed to use the "AA" name.

 

Bill W. was one of the two founders of AA. One of the most important guiding principles of AA is that members retain anonymity for each other. If there was a sign saying "Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting", anyone entering that room would be presumed by others (non-members) to be a member of AA, effectively negating the "anonymity" aspect of it. At least that is my understanding of it. And as far as whether it is an "official" meeting (again, this is JUST my understanding) any time two or more AA members meet to discuss the program IS a meeting.

 

(You may have seen bumper stickers that say "Friend of Bill W" .... a way of someone identifying themselves as an AA member to other members...)

[jtl513]

Actually, the correct order of letters is LGBT.

I'll bet you're the only poster on this forum that cares. :rolleyes:

[sail7seas]

Bill W. was one of the two founders of AA. One of the most important guiding principles of AA is that members retain anonymity for each other. If there was a sign saying "Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting", anyone entering that room would be presumed by others (non-members) to be a member of AA, effectively negating the "anonymity" aspect of it. At least that is my understanding of it. And as far as whether it is an "official" meeting (again, this is JUST my understanding) any time two or more AA members meet to discuss the program IS a meeting.

 

(You may have seen bumper stickers that say "Friend of Bill W" .... a way of someone identifying themselves as an AA member to other members...)

 

 

 

Seeing most cruise lines/ships have Friends of Bill W meetings it is far more widely known now what that means. Many of us have seen it scheduled in daily programs and have inquired so we have become more educated about it. The good and bad. It's good the meetings are listed but the bad some of the anonymity may be jeopardized for those who are concerned about that.

 

[Krazy Kruizers]

I have noticed on a couple of ships over the years that the "Friends of Bill W" meeting were held in strange places.

One ship -- Piano Bar -- S class ship when they had the original Piano Bar.

Amsterdam had the meetings one year in the King's Room --which had been turned into a storage area. There were 5 chairs and a podium set up for the meeting.