Alternative Take on Dress Codes

[CruiseTobey]

Hmmm...

 

Lots of photos being sold proves that they are not overpriced. Simple economics -- supply and demand. If few were being sold, you would have an argument that they were overpriced.

 

Personally, I hope the cruise lines continue to "generate additional revenue" (and profit!) any way they can, as I do not expect them to become charitable organizations anytime soon. No revenue, no profit, no cruising. They are in business to make money, after all.

 

Or, as P.T. Barnum is credited to have said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

 

Just because people buy something doesn't mean it's not overpriced. People pack Disney World and theme park tickets are $100.00 per day, per person. Yeah, that's reasonable. :rolleyes:

 

Nice try with the logic though.

[Lady Chew]

Things are worth whatever people are willing to pay for them!!

I think the photos are overpriced, but obviously enough people think they are worth it and are buying them for the cruise line to keep the prices where they are.

[joe6666]

The cruise line makes money on tux rental and photographs.

 

That's why they have formal nights.

[jbond]

Hmmm...

 

Lots of photos being sold proves that they are not overpriced. Simple economics -- supply and demand. If few were being sold, you would have an argument that they were overpriced.

I agree with you, I think they are good value. We always buy the Welcome on Board photo. Makes a great start to our photo album. We usually buy around 4 photos per cruise. As for a sucker being born every minute, you could use that for many choices if you wanted to. Why pay for a suite when you can get a much less expensive inside cabin? According to CT's logic, only suckers buy suites.

The photos we buy are usually ones we couldn't take ourselves, like this one off Mariner earlier this year.

 

[jbond]

The cruise line makes money on tux rental and photographs.

 

That's why they have formal nights.

The cruise line makes money from specialty restaurants, spas, bars, bingo, the casino, shore excursions etc, that's why they have them. I believe it's called good business.

The bottom line is, if you don't want to spend the extra money, you don't have to. I've never played bingo, used the casino or visited the spa, but I don't believe people who do are suckers.

[joe6666]

The cruise line makes money from specialty restaurants, spas, bars, bingo, the casino, shore excursions etc, that's why they have them. I believe it's called good business.

The bottom line is, if you don't want to spend the extra money, you don't have to. I've never played bingo, used the casino or visited the spa, but I don't believe people who do are suckers.

 

My point was......

The formal night is a moneymaker for the cruise line. I don't look at formal night as a service provided by the cruise line.

Suggested dress codes are not designed to please customers.

 

If the cruise line can get you to dress up there is more chance that you will sit for a photo. Those who urge others to dress up on formal night are doing the bidding of the cruise line.

 

The other events, specialty dining, bingo, whatever... none of those activities has a cheering section encouraging cruisers to take part.

[PLEIKU68]

It's about time that this thread dies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

[Ocean Boy]

It's about time that this thread dies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

 

So you bring it right back to the top of the front page.;)

[joe6666]

It's about time that this thread dies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

 

Who the heck are you to ask that a thread be closed?

 

And while you are thinking about that... Save me a seat by the pool.

[CruiseTobey]

According to CT's logic, only suckers buy suites.

 

Your words, not mine.

 

At least with a suite you are getting more square footage. The "professional" photograph cost RCL about 15 cents to print, yet they sell them for $8.00 (or more). So who's the sucker?

[poncho1973]

It's about time that this thread dies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

 

400 or bust baby!

[tserface]

Your words, not mine.

 

At least with a suite you are getting more square footage. The "professional" photograph cost RCL about 15 cents to print, yet they sell them for $8.00 (or more). So who's the sucker?

 

They also have to pay for the equipment and people taking the photos. And the talent to take good photos is also worth a price.

 

 

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[phish tales]

lets really get this thread started again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

you know it's coming, so if you do not want to dress up for formal night---

STAY HOME.........

[DirtyDawg]

lets really get this thread started again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

you know it's coming, so if you do not want to dress up for formal night---

STAY HOME.........

 

OK.:D

 

But then I couldn't torment the fashion police. That would be no fun.;)

[poncho1973]

lets really get this thread started again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

you know it's coming, so if you do not want to dress up for formal night---

STAY HOME.........

 

NO WAY! I hate that idea! I don't wear a tux to McDonald's!

 

hehehehehe

 

 

I am actually firmly on the Wear What You Want & I'll Wear What I Want As Long As We Both Look Presentable bandwagon.

 

We were at a land-based event a few months ago and saw a woman (her husband was in a nice tux, but irrelevant to this) in what appeared to be an extremely expensive ball gown. It was sooooo extremely ill-fitting that it looked incredibly trashy. She was moderately-to-mostly reasonably fit, but this dress was 3 or 4 sizes too small. She had way too much up top spilling out and WAY WAY WAY too much on the bottom spilling out via a split in the leg. It looked like her body was trying to escape the dress... mostly because it pretty much was.

 

I was in a suit/tie and the wife was in a nice dress. We were way more appropriately dressed, but not "formal" according to the Thurston & Lovies of this board.

[Ocean Boy]

They also have to pay for the equipment and people taking the photos. And the talent to take good photos is also worth a price.

 

 

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Judging from some of the photos other CCers have posted on these boards I'd say they are quite talented. And I'm pretty sure I could get one of them to take a picture for free.

[CruiseTobey]

They also have to pay for the equipment and people taking the photos. And the talent to take good photos is also worth a price.

 

 

True, true. Okay, I'll be generous and raise the cost of a print to $1.00. Still a hefty profit made off the backs of their passengers. But it's your money...

[ryano]

Judging from some of the photos other CCers have posted on these boards I'd say they are quite talented. And I'm pretty sure I could get one of them to take a picture for free.

 

Agreed. Whereas most of the "professionals" on the ships, not so much.

 

Im not photographer and have never claimed to be but give me their camera and I bet I can do just as good if not better.

 

Ive never been impressed with the photography on board most of time.

[DirtyDawg]

Agreed. Whereas most of the "professionals" on the ships, not so much.

 

Im not photographer and have never claimed to be but give me their camera and I bet I can do just as good if not better.

 

Ive never been impressed with the photography on board most of time.

 

I don't think that anybody would mistake any cruiseline photographer for Annie Liebovitz.:rolleyes:

 

But if people want to spend their money on photos - it's their vacation!;)

[jbond]

Judging from some of the photos other CCers have posted on these boards I'd say they are quite talented. And I'm pretty sure I could get one of them to take a picture for free.

They take them for free all the time. It's the prints you have to pay for.:rolleyes:

[Ocean Boy]

They take them for free all the time. It's the prints you have to pay for.:rolleyes:

 

My media card. My choice where to get the prints. Oh, and :rolleyes: right back at ya.

[SeagoingMom]

Or, as P.T. Barnum is credited to have said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

 

Just because people buy something doesn't mean it's not overpriced. People pack Disney World and theme park tickets are $100.00 per day, per person. Yeah, that's reasonable. :rolleyes:

 

Nice try with the logic though.

I didn't appeal to logic -- just economics! :) There's a difference.

 

If people actually pay for something, it is because they have decided it is not overpriced in the sense that they are willing to pay for it. They might well wish the price were lower, and they would certainly pay a lower price if they could, but if they shell out the money, for them it is not "overpriced", in an economic sense. Although their mouths may say it is overpriced, their wallets say it is not. And we all know "money speaks."

 

An item IS overpriced only for the folks (perhaps like you and me?) who are not willing to pay for it. Again, not logic -- supply and demand.

 

There's big difference between logic and economics, actually, because people don't make economic decisions based on logic (or not logic alone, generally). Economic decisions are extremely complicated, involving such factors as knowledge/ignorance, communication, convenience, and emotions -- excitement, ego, guilt, fear, confidence, you name it -- but not exclusively logic.

 

P.T. Barnum's observation proves my point -- suckers make economic decisions, too, though by definition not based on logic, and he knew full well how to take advantage of that. :cool:

 

Happily for the cruise lines, Disney World, etc., there's not a logician born every minute! ;)

[DirtyDawg]

I didn't appeal to logic -- just economics! :) There's a difference.

 

If people actually pay for something, it is because they have decided it is not overpriced in the sense that they are willing to pay for it. They might well wish the price were lower, and they would certainly pay a lower price if they could, but if they shell out the money, for them it is not "overpriced", in an economic sense. Although their mouths may say it is overpriced, their wallets say it is not. And we all know "money speaks."

 

An item IS overpriced only for the folks (perhaps like you and me?) who are not willing to pay for it. Again, not logic -- supply and demand.

 

There's big difference between logic and economics, actually, because people don't make economic decisions based on logic (or not logic alone, generally). Economic decisions are extremely complicated, involving such factors as knowledge/ignorance, communication, convenience, and emotions -- excitement, ego, guilt, fear, confidence, you name it -- but not exclusively logic.

 

P.T. Barnum's observation proves my point -- suckers make economic decisions, too, though by definition not based on logic, and he knew full well how to take advantage of that. :cool:

 

Happily for the cruise lines, Disney World, etc., there's not a logician born every minute! ;)

 

Supply

Demand

Equilibrium

Elasticity

 

That stuff is music to my ears but Greek to others on this board.;)

[TM38Rob]

Fair to say what one wears to dinner has nothing to do with the quality of the food.