TonyE Posted December 10, 2013 #1 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Life Jacket My understanding is that SOLAS Chapter III, Regulation 19, 2.2 states that: “On a ship engaged on a voyage where passengers are scheduled to be on board for more than 24 hours, musters of all passengers shall take place within 24 ours after their embarkation. Passengers shall be instructed in the use of the lifejackets and action to take in emergency.” At our muster drill on the Norwegian Dawn in the Venetian Restaurant on the 1st December 2013 no “instruction in the use of lifejackets” was given. As this is an infringement of Solas regulations can they be prosecuted / punished in some way. If so does anyone know how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger001 Posted December 10, 2013 #2 Share Posted December 10, 2013 On your next cruise, insist that you be given the instructions twice. Oh...also pay attention during the drills. No chatting during that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnIreland Posted December 10, 2013 #3 Share Posted December 10, 2013 They didn't tell you how to put on your life jacket ? It's part of every muster drill I have been at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vols_159 Posted December 10, 2013 #4 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Part of the muster last march on the dawn.. They also say you can re watch it on your stateroom tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russianmom Posted December 10, 2013 #5 Share Posted December 10, 2013 We get you are unhappy and didn't like your cruise. Move on and don't stress yourself out about it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliezona09 Posted December 10, 2013 #6 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Read his others posts~ he said he had a horrible cruise~ I think he's just looking to cause trouble, but that's only my opinion~ :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion3 Posted December 10, 2013 #7 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Was on the same cruise but my muster station was in the stardust lounge and they did show and explain (in 3 languages) the proper way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KweezyCruiser Posted December 10, 2013 #8 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Seven posts; six negative. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted December 10, 2013 #9 Share Posted December 10, 2013 They had life jacket instructions on my November Jewell cruise. To the Op, next time, you might want to ask at the muster drill how to put on the life jacket. Since it was a very short instruction on my cruise, possibly you missed it or I know on my cruise, some passengers came in just as the muster drill was ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanceholt Posted December 10, 2013 #10 Share Posted December 10, 2013 So you didn't have a good time and you want the ship arrested??? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
che5904 Posted December 10, 2013 #11 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Life Jacket As this is an infringement of Solas regulations can they be prosecuted / punished in some way. If so does anyone know how? Oh good grief, are you serious? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted December 10, 2013 #12 Share Posted December 10, 2013 As this is an infringement of Solas regulations can they be prosecuted / punished in some way. For one possible lapse at one muster station (you likely have no idea what happened at the other muster stations) on one ship on one sailing? I am sure that the Feds have bigger fish to fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jame_g Posted December 10, 2013 #13 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Guess you weren't paying attention like you should have been. I get so frustrated with people who talk, take pictures, and use their cell phones/smartphones during the muster drill, then complain that they didn't see, hear, or learn anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted December 10, 2013 #14 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Wonder how much in reimbursement the OP is looking for for this lapse (or possibly not) in policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted December 10, 2013 #15 Share Posted December 10, 2013 As this is an infringement of Solas regulations can they be prosecuted / punished in some way. If so does anyone know how? My first question would be....how sure are you they didn't do this? When I cruised the Dawn, my muster station was also in the Venetian, and they had staff demonstrating the life jackets on the main stairway at the entrance, along with staff members standing on the tables throughout the room. Additionally, it was demonstrated on the stateroom televisions. Another question....was there instruction on the inside of your stateroom door? Prosecutable? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidward Q Tentacles Posted December 10, 2013 #16 Share Posted December 10, 2013 OP, just for your future if you need: Instructions 1 Open the front of the life vest and put it on just as you would a vest. Make sure the flotation collar hangs down the back of the vest. 2 Fasten the plastic buckle in the front of the vest. Some vests may have a zipper instead of, or in addition to, a plastic buckle. 3 Adjust the webbing strap attached to the plastic buckle until the vest fits snugly. 4 Check for proper fit. The Coast Guard advises that you raise your arms above your head as if signaling a touchdown. Turn your head left and right. If your chin touches the vest, it is too loose and should be tightened. Check the fit of a child's vest by tugging up on the vest. If it lifts high enough to cover the child's ears, it is too loose. 5 Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you have a proper snug fit. Do this before the boat leaves the dock or shore. No life vest works if you don't wear it. (That's from the Coast Guard too.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinIllinois Posted December 10, 2013 #17 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
che5904 Posted December 10, 2013 #18 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Now see on my 3 previous cruises, not once was I given instructions on how to do the above. How do I get someone in trouble for not instructing that! :eek: And will it work with anything other than Coke and whatever that closest bottle is, maybe wine bottles? Kind of brings back "you know you are a redneck when..." :D Edited December 10, 2013 by che5904 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutuwahineLV Posted December 10, 2013 #19 Share Posted December 10, 2013 OP, just for your future if you need: Instructions 1 Open the front of the life vest and put it on just as you would a vest. Make sure the flotation collar hangs down the back of the vest. 2 Fasten the plastic buckle in the front of the vest. Some vests may have a zipper instead of, or in addition to, a plastic buckle. 3 Adjust the webbing strap attached to the plastic buckle until the vest fits snugly. 4 Check for proper fit. The Coast Guard advises that you raise your arms above your head as if signaling a touchdown. Turn your head left and right. If your chin touches the vest, it is too loose and should be tightened. Check the fit of a child's vest by tugging up on the vest. If it lifts high enough to cover the child's ears, it is too loose. 5 Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you have a proper snug fit. Do this before the boat leaves the dock or shore. No life vest works if you don't wear it. (That's from the Coast Guard too.) You can also pay attention the next time you fly... their life vest operate the same way..... if you can't pay attention during the drill, OR figure out how to put one one........stay home cause you won't make it if there is a emergency..... just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveH2508 Posted December 10, 2013 #20 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Cannot be an NCL muster drill - they only have Pepsi - those are Coke bottles.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinIllinois Posted December 10, 2013 #21 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Steve, perhaps those folks brought those cokes with them. Everytime I go I stop at the curb and ask the porter to slap a room sticker on my Dr Pepper life vest so it arrives in my room. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMLady Posted December 10, 2013 #22 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Life Jacket My understanding is that SOLAS Chapter III, Regulation 19, 2.2 states that: “On a ship engaged on a voyage where passengers are scheduled to be on board for more than 24 hours, musters of all passengers shall take place within 24 ours after their embarkation. Passengers shall be instructed in the use of the lifejackets and action to take in emergency.” At our muster drill on the Norwegian Dawn in the Venetian Restaurant on the 1st December 2013 no “instruction in the use of lifejackets” was given. As this is an infringement of Solas regulations can they be prosecuted / punished in some way. If so does anyone know how? Since there is also a tv presentation available in your cabin that probably fulfills the letter of the law. But I am surprised that no crew member stood in front of the group and put on a life jacket demonstrating. That has been done on every cruise I've been on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camz Posted December 10, 2013 #23 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Tony E a/k/a OP - I am wondering if you mentioned this to any of the crew, such as the Hotel Director while you where onboard? If this indeed happened the way you explained, I would think if it bothered you that much, you would have let someone in charge know about it right away whille on the ship. At that point something may have been able to be done about it. At this point, the information is after the fact and useless. BTW, we were on the Dawn and did not have this experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vols_159 Posted December 10, 2013 #24 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Part of the muster last march on the dawn.. They also say you can re watch it on your stateroom tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP1111 Posted December 10, 2013 #25 Share Posted December 10, 2013 . . . At our muster drill on the Norwegian Dawn in the Venetian Restaurant on the 1st December 2013 no “instruction in the use of lifejackets” was given. As this is an infringement of Solas regulations can they be prosecuted / punished in some way. If so does anyone know how? I'm sorry to hear/read of that not taking place on your own cruise vacation. Two weeks earlier (11/17 sailing) that was clearly demonstrated by multiple people in the Venetian Dining room on that same ship. But, yes, that is something that should have been covered during muster for sure. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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