Norwegian Cruise Line Bans Smoking on Balconies

[luvtheships]

Let's get one thing straight. I did not ask to smoke in the non-smoking area. I went to the smoking area (and had been there for a while when the cleaning crew arrived and I was asked to smoke in the nonsmoking until they were finished. They even brought me a clean ashtray to use and apologized for asking me to move.

 

As I have stated in both my posts (the one that survived and the one that didn't survive), if the crew need to temporarily change the location of the smoking area for whatever reason, that new area IS the smoking area and will be used as such until the permanent smoking area is return to the smokers as per those with the authority to do so. If a non-smoker has a problem with that then they can go complain to whoever they wish.

 

Again, if you have a problem with how NCL runs their ships, I suggest you take it up with them as you have no authority to make rules on board their ships.

 

Please, I wish a non-smoker would report it that a smoker was smoking in the temporary smoking area. I would just LOVE to see that. It would be such a hoot.

 

The only thing I have proven is that I will obey the rules of those with the authority to make rules. It's a shame that is a problem for you.

 

The real issue is that you disrespected the non smoking side and just did whatever you wanted because the cleaning crew did not want to upset you. Did you tip them btw?

 

They do not want any complaints so they appeased you probably because non smokers were not around at the time. But it still does not give you carte Blanche to smoke there

 

Did it ever even occur to you that maybe you should not listen to them? Refrain from a smoke for 10 minutes? And have some consideration for the non smokers?

 

Doesn't look like you did and just thought it was all about your rights and no one else.

 

This is the crux of the debate.

 

And a sad situation of selfishness when you know fully well that smoking is severely restricted But you didn't care

 

You sir/ madam make the perfect test case for non smoking regulations.

 

Be proud.

 

 

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Edited August 5, 2014 by luvtheships

[CasinoCruzGirl]

Me Sheehan must be on double duty today. I also heard from him. Now I'm impressed :-)

 

 

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[Out to sea!]

The real issue is that you disrespected the non smoking side and just did whatever you wanted because the cleaning crew did not want to upset you. Did you tip them btw?

 

They do not want any complaints so they appeased you probably because non smokers were not around at the time. But it still does not give you carte Blanche to smoke there

 

Did it ever even occur to you that maybe you should not listen to them? Refrain from a smoke for 10 minutes? And have some consideration for the non smokers?

 

Doesn't look like you did and just thought it was all about your rights and no one else.

 

This is the crux of the debate.

 

And a sad situation of selfishness when you know fully well that smoking is severely restricted But you didn't care

 

You sir/ madam make the perfect test case for non smoking regulations.

 

Be proud.

 

 

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Ah, so you were there, right? You make all these accusations and assumptions and yet you haven't a single clue as to what happened, even though it was presented in perfect English for you. Feel free to crawl back under whatever rock you were hiding under. Oh, and try to learn English so that you will understand what people are explaining to you. :rolleyes:

[EyeSeaEwe]

We will be at 1500 pretty soon and still nothing accomplished but a waste of disk space!

[Nisky18]

Many non smokers are of the opinion that smokers choose to smoke. It simply is not true they are compelled to they are addicted to it and have to have that cigarette. They need sympathy and emotional support. Hopefully, some have families who love them enough and worry about them enough to convince them to end their addiction. But make no mistake about it, it is very difficult.

[mein18]

Having a "no ecig use in the cabin" rule is about as productive as having a "no passing gas in your cabin" rule. Someone please tell we what they are accomplishing by having the no e-cig use in the cabin rule?

 

It is a crazy rule.

 

BTW, human gas is made up of the following:

Nitrogen, Hydrogen, Carbon dioxide, Oxygen, Methane

 

Per NCL's policy they are afraid that tbe cabin peekers will see you having an e-cig (most of which do not look anything like a real cigarette) and they will run down to guest services to get their high by complaining. Must be enough non-smoking cabin peekers that they fear a stampede.

 

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[OhioGirl]

I'm sure if I would take the time to go back and read all of the posting for this subject I would find the email for Kevin Sheehan. I was wondering if anyone would please send it to my email address or post it here. I would like to send him an email about the smoking policy and some other issues~

 

Thank you in advance,

Sheila

[CasinoCruzGirl]

I'm sure if I would take the time to go back and read all of the posting for this subject I would find the email for Kevin Sheehan. I was wondering if anyone would please send it to my email address or post it here. I would like to send him an email about the smoking policy and some other issues~

 

Thank you in advance,

Sheila

 

 

It's ksheehan@ncl.com

[OhioGirl]

It's ksheehan@ncl.com

 

Thanks!

[JulieAF]

Actually smokers do have the same options everyone else has :rolleyes:. Nothing is stopping you from going anywhere on the ship, just like anyone else. You have the option to go whereever you want. We all have the same options there. There are just certain things we all can't do in certain areas. There are certain areas for you to play basketball, swim, play on a slot machine, and many other activities you choose to partake in. While the cruiselines limit where you can do these activities, you do have the choice to do them in their designated areas. Just like smoking.

 

Smoking is an activity option that you choose to do. Your option to smoke has not been taken away, the cruiseline has just limited the areas where it can be done. It is still your choice/option to smoke or not. You have not lost the use of your balcony. It is still there for you to use the same way everyone else does. You just are not allowed to smoke there... nor is anyone else.

 

Simple, isn't it?

[jackson bernard]

The real issue is that you disrespected the non smoking side and just did whatever you wanted because the cleaning crew did not want to upset you. Did you tip them btw?

 

They do not want any complaints so they appeased you probably because non smokers were not around at the time. But it still does not give you carte Blanche to smoke there

 

Did it ever even occur to you that maybe you should not listen to them? Refrain from a smoke for 10 minutes? And have some consideration for the non smokers?

 

Doesn't look like you did and just thought it was all about your rights and no one else.

 

This is the crux of the debate.

 

And a sad situation of selfishness when you know fully well that smoking is severely restricted But you didn't care

 

You sir/ madam make the perfect test case for non smoking regulations.

 

Be proud.

 

 

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How can you disrespect a boat? This is ridiculous.

 

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[CasinoCruzGirl]

How can you disrespect a boat? This is ridiculous.

 

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Lol

[fshagan]

Let's get one thing straight. I did not ask to smoke in the non-smoking area. I went to the smoking area (and had been there for a while when the cleaning crew arrived and I was asked to smoke in the nonsmoking until they were finished. They even brought me a clean ashtray to use and apologized for asking me to move.

 

I think everyone agrees that NCL determines where the smoking and non-smoking areas are, and in your case, the crew member moved the smoking section from the inaccessible side to the accessible side. You were not in the no smoking area, you were in the new, albeit temporary smoking area. So no harm on your part or the crew member's part. No puppies were killed in the making of the new smoking area.

[littlelulu01]

Food for thought. I was curious about why the All inclusive package only benefits those who would purchase unlimited alcohol package so I did a little research and found: 5% of Americans are heavy drinkers (5 or more drinks per day for a man and 4 or more for a woman). 20% of Americans smoke. Now here's where it gets interesting; 80-95% of heavy drinkers are smokers (not the other way around.) If I was a company trying to make money I would certainly want the heavy drinkers in my bars vs drinking on their balconies with alcohol they may have brought aboard. Perhaps coincidental that the new AI pkg which only benefits a heavy drinker is introduced at the same time smoking on balconies is banned and may be a way to keep the heavy drinker, AKA ship's money maker, on board vs switching to an AI Land based vacation. The majority of smokers who are not heavy drinkers...you may have the heavy drinker to thank for kicking you off the balcony and to all of you who undoubtedly will have more smoke to deal with in common areas of the ship, you too may just have the heavy drinker to thank.

[CasinoCruzGirl]

i think everyone agrees that ncl determines where the smoking and non-smoking areas are, and in your case, the crew member moved the smoking section from the inaccessible side to the accessible side. You were not in the no smoking area, you were in the new, albeit temporary smoking area. So no harm on your part or the crew member's part. No puppies were killed in the making of the new smoking area.

 

 

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[beau4]

I'm sure if I would take the time to go back and read all of the posting for this subject I would find the email for Kevin Sheehan. I was wondering if anyone would please send it to my email address or post it here. I would like to send him an email about the smoking policy and some other issues~

 

Thank you in advance,

Sheila

 

I've sent 2 e-mails with no reply. Perhaps only the non-smokers in favor of the ban are receiving feedback. Would like to hear from any smokers who heard back.

 

Also - I thought we (smokers and non-smokers) got along pretty well. Reading these posts I'm dismayed at the responses of the some of the posters. Sad it's come to this.

 

I wish everyone smooth sailing.

[kjbacon]

Food for thought. I was curious about why the All inclusive package only benefits those who would purchase unlimited alcohol package so I did a little research and found: 5% of Americans are heavy drinkers (5 or more drinks per day for a man and 4 or more for a woman). 20% of Americans smoke. Now here's where it gets interesting; 80-95% of heavy drinkers are smokers (not the other way around.) If I was a company trying to make money I would certainly want the heavy drinkers in my bars vs drinking on their balconies with alcohol they may have brought aboard. Perhaps coincidental that the new AI pkg which only benefits a heavy drinker is introduced at the same time smoking on balconies is banned and may be a way to keep the heavy drinker, AKA ship's money maker, on board vs switching to an AI Land based vacation. The majority of smokers who are not heavy drinkers...you may have the heavy drinker to thank for kicking you off the balcony and to all of you who undoubtedly will have more smoke to deal with in common areas of the ship, you too may just have the heavy drinker to thank.

 

This is one of the more interesting posts that I've seen on this thread (other than mine, of course). It is a likely money maker! And safer in public, I would think, than someone drinking heavily and smoking on their balcony.

[Tutankhamen]

Yup, easy to confuse this with a stink stick.

 

[Out to sea!]

I think everyone agrees that NCL determines where the smoking and non-smoking areas are, and in your case, the crew member moved the smoking section from the inaccessible side to the accessible side. You were not in the no smoking area, you were in the new, albeit temporary smoking area. So no harm on your part or the crew member's part. No puppies were killed in the making of the new smoking area.

 

Except for the everyone agrees part, that is exactly, 100% correct. :)

Edited August 6, 2014 by Out to sea!

[luvtheships]

I think everyone agrees that NCL determines where the smoking and non-smoking areas are, and in your case, the crew member moved the smoking section from the inaccessible side to the accessible side. You were not in the no smoking area, you were in the new, albeit temporary smoking area. So no harm on your part or the crew member's part. No puppies were killed in the making of the new smoking area.

 

Then it also stands to reason that if a non smoker wanted to sit there at the same time that the area would revert back to non smoking

 

Oh and just to remind everyone yet again. I am upset at the smoking ban on the balconies

 

I prefer smokers to stay on their balconies to smoke because I never book one and believe smokers should be segregated although I do worry about the inconsiderate smokers who flick the butts off the balcony

 

Also apologizes to the non smokers who want a balcony for my opinion on this

 

 

 

 

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Edited August 6, 2014 by luvtheships

[Ewoodspark]

I've sent 2 e-mails with no reply. Perhaps only the non-smokers in favor of the ban are receiving feedback. Would like to hear from any smokers who heard back.

 

 

 

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I sent an E-mail to Kevin Sheehan asking NCL to re-consider their decision to ban E-cigarettes on the balcony. Within 2 days I received an E-mail back from a lady from the Executive Office | Resolution Specialist.

[pieshops]

i sent an e-mail to kevin sheehan asking ncl to re-consider their decision to ban e-cigarettes on the balcony. Within 2 days i received an e-mail back from a lady from the executive office | resolution specialist.

 

 

and?

[Ewoodspark]

and?

 

Answer was private:

 

Disclaimer: This e-mail is intended only for the person addressed. It may contain confidential information and/or privileged material.

Please do not copy or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person.

[beau4]

I sent an E-mail to Kevin Sheehan asking NCL to re-consider their decision to ban E-cigarettes on the balcony. Within 2 days I received an E-mail back from a lady from the Executive Office | Resolution Specialist.

 

Good to hear - thank you. Maybe there's hope for a reply (or at least an acknowledgement of receipt) to mine.

[sjbdtz]

 

Yup, easy to confuse this with a stink stick.

 

 

 

Oh the irony.

 

 

This photo, and your signature tag-line "Every man is rich in excuses to safeguard his prejudices, his instincts, and his opinions."

 

 

 

Together. Priceless.

 

 

 

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Edited August 6, 2014 by sjbdtz