New Norwegian smoking policy

[gemsm]

I do not think that the smoking policy is the reason some balconies are still available. While you will find an occasional exception the vast majority of their cruises sail with sold out balconies. Now if they would just ban the wearing of cheap perfume on balconies:D

 

Or loud music, loud cell phone conversations, people arguing, people leaving their light on all night LOL

[Pam in CA]

Cause they are going to lose a lot of European cruisers by doing so.

Princess banned smoking in both cabins and balconies two years ago. They sail in Asia and Europe where smoking is more prevalent. Every cruise I've been on in both Europe and Asia over the last two years has been sold out. Non-smoking is the norm in the US and now on US-based cruise lines.

 

FYI, Carnival Corporation just announced a dividend today so I don't think the cruise lines under the Carnival Corporation umbrella are hurting.

 

We all have choices, which is a good thing.

[RDC1]

For those that think EU is the smoking wild wild west.

 

Currently, 17 EU countries have comprehensive smoke-free laws in place. Among these, Ireland, the UK, Greece, Bulgaria, Malta, Spain and Hungary have the strictest smoke-free provisions with a complete ban on smoking in enclosed public places, on public transport and in workplaces, with only limited exceptions allowed.

 

The EU is not that far behind the US when it comes to restricting smoking.

 

Do not think the restrictions will negatively impact EU sailings. They are far more impacted by the high air travel costs which is limiting US passengers from taking European cruises.

[gemsm]

For those that think EU is the smoking wild wild west.

 

Currently, 17 EU countries have comprehensive smoke-free laws in place. Among these, Ireland, the UK, Greece, Bulgaria, Malta, Spain and Hungary have the strictest smoke-free provisions with a complete ban on smoking in enclosed public places, on public transport and in workplaces, with only limited exceptions allowed.

 

The EU is not that far behind the US when it comes to restricting smoking.

 

Do not think the restrictions will negatively impact EU sailings. They are far more impacted by the high air travel costs which is limiting US passengers from taking European cruises.

 

The important thing here is that the EU does not restrict smoking OUTDOORS like the US attempts to

[lexdisic]

The important thing here is that the EU does not restrict smoking OUTDOORS like the US attempts to

 

It does now. I work in a town where smoking is banned in the centre of town and the surrounding car parks, with a few areas for them - do it and get caught they will instantly fine you £75 - around $120

[Cashew14]

It does now. I work in a town where smoking is banned in the centre of town and the surrounding car parks, with a few areas for them - do it and get caught they will instantly fine you £75 - around $120

 

I have not heard of anything like that in England :D

[Ethel5]

I do not think that the smoking policy is the reason some balconies are still available. While you will find an occasional exception the vast majority of their cruises sail with sold out balconies. Now if they would just ban the wearing of cheap perfume on balconies:D

 

Funny thing about perfume allergies-it doesn't matter if it's Jean Nate (every Mother's nightmare) for $5 per gallon or the high end stuff-it's what's in it that causes the reactions.

[caribill]

 

FYI, Carnival Corporation just announced a dividend today so I don't think the cruise lines under the Carnival Corporation umbrella are hurting.

 

 

However, the most recent quarter's earnings (10 cents/share) were less than the just announced 25 cents/share dividend.

 

Still better than last year when second quarter earnings were 7 cents/share.

[Pam in CA]

The important thing here is that the EU does not restrict smoking OUTDOORS like the US attempts to

One of the biggest issues with smoking outdoors, just as it is on a ship, is the danger of fire. IMHO, that's far more important than one's rights or preferences. Many have forgotten that the Star fire, which destroyed a large section of the ship, including passenger cabins and property, was caused by a lit cigarette. Fire is a constant danger here in southern CA.

[petlover]

They used to allow them anywhere except the theater and Dining Areas, unless another passenger objected. If another passenger objected the user of the e-sig had to stop.

 

I would guess that they had enough objections.

 

After just getting off the Golden Princess, I'm curious as to why someone would object to the e-cigarettes? (I'm not a smoker). I saw passengers walking around with them last week. I stood next to some without realizing they had one since they have no smell.

I thought they were battery operated like those little pin light flash lights so not any fire, health or yucky smell hazard. I must be missing something.

 

My Inquiring mind is curious ??

[aikensbest]

E cigarets have no odor, BUT there is nicotine in the smoke they emit.

I love Princess, but did take a cruise this year on Celebrity(for the itinerary) and they prohibit smoking even in the casino. First time in years I gambled on a cruise.

[RDC1]

After just getting off the Golden Princess, I'm curious as to why someone would object to the e-cigarettes? (I'm not a smoker). I saw passengers walking around with them last week. I stood next to some without realizing they had one since they have no smell.

I thought they were battery operated like those little pin light flash lights so not any fire, health or yucky smell hazard. I must be missing something.

 

My Inquiring mind is curious ??

 

Primarily because while they do not smell they do emit nicotine and particulates that can have a secondhand impact. They are considerably better then cigarettes, but not impact free. Outside the second hand impact is not much. Inside they can emit enough ultrasmall particulates to create an unhealthy environment.

 

The discussion over in the NCL area contains a more extensive discussion.

Edited July 18, 2014 by RDC1

[PrincessLuver]

After just getting off the Golden Princess, I'm curious as to why someone would object to the e-cigarettes? (I'm not a smoker). I saw passengers walking around with them last week. I stood next to some without realizing they had one since they have no smell.

I thought they were battery operated like those little pin light flash lights so not any fire, health or yucky smell hazard. I must be missing something.

 

My Inquiring mind is curious ??

 

The technology is too new and there have not been any long term studies of the effects of vaping with E-cigarettes. Nobody really knows what is in the vapors because there are so many different products and types. Also, most people who vape add flavors because it is not really very stimulating without any taste to simulate smoking. Vape shops also sell a lot of flavors that are candy-like to hook young kids too.

 

A number of cities like NYC, Chicago, LA and other are banning the use of E-cigarettes indoors because they are intrusive.

 

I have friends who use e-cigarettes and I can tell every time they start gaping. I tell them to take it away from me and they do.

 

I am glad that Princess is starting to restrict their use on ships. The FDA is starting to get in the act in the US and once it does you can bet there will be restrictions put on manufactures and distributors.

[Host Jazzbeau]

Originally Posted by Host Jazzbeau

Costa, their European marque, has banned balcony smoking already.

 

Hawkeyetlse: Are you sure about that? Their FAQ says: "We would like to remind you that smoking is not permitted in cabins, but only outside on private balconies.".

 

I stand corrected. I was going by the Cruise Critic smoking policy summary, but the Costa website and a thread on the Costa forum here do indicate that smoking is still allowed on Costa balconies.

[MJSailors]

As an asthmatic, I am very pleased that no smoking policies have been initiated by hotels,airlines and cruise lines.

I applaud Princess for restricting smoking to areas on the outside decks and the casino - although I would really like to have smoke free casinos as well.

I realize that the no smoking restrictions can make travel difficult for people who smoke.

My husband quit cigarettes and cigars over 12 years ago.

I do not miss those days of him going without smoking on long air flights or trying to find an acceptable area to smoke at any public place we visited

I do hope that Princess and other cruise lines continue to enforce the no smoking policies.

I think the majority of passengers appreciate being able to sail in a smoke free environment.

With the economic state of the US,indeed the world for that matter, I do not think that one can hold the smoking policy of Princess as

being the cause for a decrease in profits for Carnival Corp.

There are too many other factors that are affecting the bottom line of the cruise industry today.

[KarateMan]

All I can say is that I can totally understand smoking being banned on cabin balconies. Given it was the most probable cause of the Star Princess fire there is good reason to ban it. The air breeze fuelling oxygen to any flame is enough to ignite a fire.

 

Cabins I can understand it being banned as well considering it would be very costly for the line to compensate, move and shampoo cabins for passengers that do not smoke.

[lexdisic]

I have not heard of anything like that in England :D

 

England lags behind Wales and Scotland when it comes to smoking laws, e.g the smoking ban in public places, so you can bet it will follow suit soon. The only problem with the centre ban is that there are areas designated for smokers where they congregate and the it can be smelled from quite a distance as its so concentrated especially if there is no wind. The problem maybe actually made worse by doing this so I imagine ultimately it will be stopped in all public places - inside or out eventually.

[Cashew14]

England lags behind Wales and Scotland when it comes to smoking laws, e.g the smoking ban in public places, so you can bet it will follow suit soon. The only problem with the centre ban is that there are areas designated for smokers where they congregate and the it can be smelled from quite a distance as its so concentrated especially if there is no wind. The problem maybe actually made worse by doing this so I imagine ultimately it will be stopped in all public places - inside or out eventually.

 

England LAGS behind Wales??? Maybe in Rugby. :D

 

But from your point of view I understand the problems which come with the smoking ban in your city.

 

As long as the sheep are being kept healthy. ;)