Pot Cruises

[kjw869]

Cruise ships won't legalize pot on board ... it would cut into the revenue from alcohol sales :D:D

 

Not only that, but HAL would have to increase the food brought onboard and triple the staff in Room Service (or should we say Munchie Service);)

[sammygoose]

Realistically it's not going to happen. Not in my lifetime.

 

But....if we were to look at this from an economic standpoint it could be fun.

 

Find the people to fill the ship- how they get the 'merchandise' to port is their problem. Sell rum runners in the guise of pot runners. Of course strapped to your inner thighs.

New Ebay millionaire in the waiting. Smell proof of course.

 

Hal stocks ship stores with millions of bags of Fritos corn chips, every bag of potato chip and Dorito known to man. Hello Ketchup and Dill! Total coincidence...of course.

 

Hal charges $10 usd per bag of munchies

 

Hal charges for room service. $5 per order.

 

Hal increases profits for carnival so much that I can retire on my 100 shares.

 

Due to money hand over fist they increase dining room staff, and gloved attendants to escort you to your room 10 fold. For a small fee they now have a stand in for you at the lifeboat drill that will yell hell ya! when they call your cabin.

[Chelly]

Realistically it's not going to happen. Not in my lifetime.

 

But....if we were to look at this from an economic standpoint it could be fun.

 

Find the people to fill the ship- how they get the 'merchandise' to port is their problem. Sell rum runners in the guise of pot runners. Of course strapped to your inner thighs.

New Ebay millionaire in the waiting. Smell proof of course.

 

Hal stocks ship stores with millions of bags of Fritos corn chips, every bag of potato chip and Dorito known to man. Hello Ketchup and Dill! Total coincidence...of course.

 

Hal charges $10 usd per bag of munchies

 

Hal charges for room service. $5 per order.

 

Hal increases profits for carnival so much that I can retire on my 100 shares.

 

Due to money hand over fist they increase dining room staff, and gloved attendants to escort you to your room 10 fold. For a small fee they now have a stand in for you at the lifeboat drill that will yell hell ya! when they call your cabin.

 

hell ya!

Like!

[OCruisers]

"Everybody Must Get Stoned" would be played constantly on the ships without interruption even for the Captain's Noon announcement! :D

LuLu

[LAFFNVEGAS]

"Everybody Must Get Stoned" would be played constantly on the ships without interruption even for the Captain's Noon announcement! :D

LuLu

 

And Playing in the Vista Lounge is the movie Cheech and Chong "Up in Smoke"

[sammygoose]

Let's not think small LaffnVegas.... Mainstage baby!

 

Cheech and Chong up in smoke with barrels of free popcorn. Forget the mystery bags that no one watching the movie ever seems to get. We're talking serious money here.

 

Cheech and Chong..up in smoke

Monty Python.....everything........start with Holy Grail

Fawlty Towers..let's do it! Yes, my piranha.........

Rocky Horror Picture Show.......can you imagine?

 

And this list goes on.............

 

The bags of for pay chips, dip and assorted crunchies would blow the mainstage acts out of the water............also negating salaries for boring run of the mill stage productions.

 

Keep the magician and the dog...munch munch.

Edited July 20, 2014 by sammygoose
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[Randyk47]

So Seattle-based HAl, should they consider cruises that allow marijuania aboard? It's legal in their homeport. Like to hear some comments.

 

In as much as it's still a controlled and illegal substance by Federal definition I doubt you'll see much change. Admittedly the present Administration has kind of taken a hands-off approach it still doesn't mean it's legal beyond the borders of the states that gave legalized it.

[LAFFNVEGAS]

Let's not think small LaffnVegas.... Mainstage baby!

 

Cheech and Chong up in smoke with barrels of free popcorn. Forget the mystery bags that no one watching the movie ever seems to get. We're talking serious money here.

 

Cheech and Chong..up in smoke

Monty Python.....everything........start with Holy Grail

Fawlty Towers..let's do it! Yes, my piranha.........

Rocky Horror Picture Show.......can you imagine?

 

And this list goes on.............

 

The bags of for pay chips, dip and assorted crunchies would blow the mainstage acts out of the water............also negating salaries for boring run of the mill stage productions.

 

Keep the magician and the dog...munch munch.

 

This could be a Win Win for HAL, now they just need to bring back the Vista Ships to the West Coast, do lots of Cruises to No Where and then they could not say they make no money on West Coast Sailings.

 

But when the day is done and truth be told, this will never ever happen in a million years.

[sammygoose]

BullsEye! West Coast would be the bomb! or should I say the Bong?

 

Thinking about the west coast possibilities oy....

 

Sadly though you are right....my portfolio would love it but reality says no.

[bobg529]

Pot cruises, sailing out of Seattle? This sounds like a NEW Holland America! Somewhere, Kurt Cobain is smiling...:rolleyes:

[rdpmiami]

So Seattle-based HAl, should they consider cruises that allow marijuania aboard? It's legal in their homeport. Like to hear some comments.

 

I just returned from a NCL cruise out of Seattle and some passengers smoked in their staterooms throughout the cruise. Same deal on a NCL Rotterdam cruise. Seattle/Washington just legalized it recreationally which may stymie the NCL rules below. NCL registers their ships in the Bahamas so Bahamian laws could apply here. But I don't know.

 

Personally, I just don't want a room that smells like smoke . . . other than that . . . cigs, cigars and pot are the same to me.

 

I also don't think impairment is the issue - look at the drunks they make money from. :eek:

And if you have been in a casino late night . . . it ain't pretty. Smells nasty.

Once the cruise industry finds a revenue angle - it will adjust for the customers no doubt. Maybe a corkage fee??

 

from NCL:

 

"DRUGS OR OTHER ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES

No illegal drugs or other illegal substances including but not limited to medical marijuana are allowed onboard or may be utilized during a Norwegian Cruise Line vacation, including during transfers to and from ships, inside terminals, during shore excursions or at our private island. Illegal drugs or substances will be confiscated and appropriate action taken,which may include removal from the ship and involvement of appropriate authorities. In addition, foreign governments at Norwegian Cruise Line ports of call have strict laws that address drug possession. Guests found in violation of such laws are subject to arrest and prosecution by the foreign jurisdiction (and perhaps United States or other authorities as well) and may be prevented from re-boarding the ship."

 

http://www.ncl.com/faq/guest-conduct-policy

 

Since pot is no longer illegal statewide(Washington) and the Feds let it go maybe its a time for an update in policy.

 

:cool:

[Ocean Dancer]

Pot cruises, sailing out of Seattle? This sounds like a NEW Holland America! Somewhere, Kurt Cobain is smiling...:rolleyes:

 

I find it hard to believe that anyone on this forum even knows who Kurt Cobain is:eek:

 

As I mentioned prior, with "the times they are achangin" this can only work for a cruise to nowhere. It would have to be by private charter like nude cruises or GLBT cruises. Holland could not let any pot passengers off the ship as hurding the cattle at sail away time could be near impossible. Also the pot would have to be bought on board to conform to legal THC levels with no speed or other additives.

 

As a cancer survivor myself, OP'S wanted thoughts on this subject really are not a joke.

[jaguarstyper]

I find it hard to believe that anyone on this forum even knows who Kurt Cobain is:eek:

I do!

 

I even saw Nirvana in concert...twice. You might be surprised what some of us know.

[djg541]

I doubt this would occur,but I began to imagine what the passenger profiles might be and how things would go in the main dining room every night.

The scenarios are endless!

[Ocean Dancer]

I do!

 

I even saw Nirvana in concert...twice. You might be surprised what some of us know.

 

I saw Bob Dylan and the Stones..................almost went to Woodstock;)

 

We need a NEW cruise line:eek:

[rdpmiami]

I doubt this would occur,but I began to imagine what the passenger profiles might be and how things would go in the main dining room every night.

The scenarios are endless!

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

Pete Holmes, Seattle's elected city attorney and a main backer of the state's recreational marijuana law, said he wanted to be one of the first customers to demonstrate there are alternatives to the nation's failed drug war.

http://mashable.com/2014/07/09/seattle-city-attorney-buys-pot/

[POA1]

I find it hard to believe that anyone on this forum even knows who Kurt Cobain is:eek:

 

He's been dead for two decades. To put things in perspective, "Nevermind" is older today than Bill Haley & The Comets' "Rock Around The Clock" was when the TV Show "Happy Days" aired.

 

Hopefully there's a little something for everyone here and we all feel old now. (For you kids out there, Nirvana was on of the bands that influenced Weezer, The Foo Fighters, and Fall Out Boy.)

[eandj]

I bet you wouldn't read all the posts here re HAL being the "geriatric cruise line" !!:D

[visagrunt]

You must bear in mind that all HAL cruises are international voyages. HAL cannot run a cruise to nowhere from a US port, nor a cruise between US ports without an intervening international stop.

 

So the moment any passenger boards the vessel with marijuana in their possession, they have manifested an intention to export marijuana from the USA, and that is a matter that falls completely within the federal jurisdiction.

 

Once the vessel is outside the 12 mile limit, the jurisdiction of the Port of Registry begins--and the cannabis continues to be a controlled drug in the Netherlands. While possession of small amounts for personal use is not generally enforced in the Netherlands, the transportation of drugs across a frontier is an offence in the Netherlands, and one that carries some pretty hefty penalties.

[Fouremco]

You must bear in mind that all HAL cruises are international voyages. HAL cannot run a cruise to nowhere from a US port, nor a cruise between US ports without an intervening international stop.

 

So the moment any passenger boards the vessel with marijuana in their possession, they have manifested an intention to export marijuana from the USA, and that is a matter that falls completely within the federal jurisdiction.

 

Once the vessel is outside the 12 mile limit, the jurisdiction of the Port of Registry begins--and the cannabis continues to be a controlled drug in the Netherlands. While possession of small amounts for personal use is not generally enforced in the Netherlands, the transportation of drugs across a frontier is an offence in the Netherlands, and one that carries some pretty hefty penalties.

You may be jumping the gun here. The passenger might well have intended to consume the marijuana while still in US territorial waters, or even while still in port. Some people celebrate sail away with champagne, others with a doobie! :D

[Aquahound]

You may be jumping the gun here. The passenger might well have intended to consume the marijuana while still in US territorial waters, or even while still in port. Some people celebrate sail away with champagne, others with a doobie! :D

 

That does not matter. When you enter the controlled area of a cruise ship terminal and show intent to board an international traveling ship, you enter a federally controlled area and federal drug laws apply. Furthermore, cruise ships who embark and disembark in the United States are federally mandated to adopt a zero tolerance rule with regard to illegal drugs. As long as drugs are still illegal by the federal government, and they are illegal in the ports of call, they will not be permitted aboard cruise ships nor in their terminals.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Aquahound

[RuthC]

HAL cannot run a cruise to nowhere from a US port, ....

While I won't speak to the remainder of your post, this portion is not correct. Under the PVSA a "cruise to nowhere" is perfectly all right, so long as it returns to the embarkation port for disembarkation.

[Fouremco]

That does not matter. When you enter the controlled area of a cruise ship terminal and show intent to board an international traveling ship, you enter a federally controlled area and federal drug laws apply. Furthermore, cruise ships who embark and disembark in the United States are federally mandated to adopt a zero tolerance rule with regard to illegal drugs. As long as drugs are still illegal by the federal government, and they are illegal in the ports of call, they will not be permitted aboard cruise ships nor in their terminals.

Thanks for the input, and that may well be the case, Aquahound, but I was commenting solely on intent, nor jurisdiction.

[Aquahound]

Thanks for the input, and that may well be the case, Aquahound, but I was commenting solely on intent, nor jurisdiction.

 

Ah, gotcha. The truth is, a person caught boarding a ship in Seattle with MJ would most likely just be denied boarding anyways, even with the intent to only smoke it in port or in state waters. Federal thresholds go waaaaaay beyond personal carry so even minus the intent, there wouldn't be any charges. :)

[Fouremco]

Ah, gotcha. The truth is, a person caught boarding a ship in Seattle with MJ would most likely just be denied boarding anyways, even with the intent to only smoke it in port or in state waters. Federal thresholds go waaaaaay beyond personal carry so even minus the intent, there wouldn't be any charges. :)

Or offered the option of being denied boarding or smoking that doobie before getting back in line! :)