yyjguy Posted September 23, 2014 #1 Share Posted September 23, 2014 For many months the rumours have around that the 3 smaller ships in the fleet (one over at P & O) were going to be sold. Today Carnival Corporation confirmed that Ocean Princess is listed for sale, and that she would be available at almost any time for the buyer. It would appear that Pacific is the next, as much major refit work has been deferred on her too. It would appear than once the new Panama Canal locks are opened, the vessel deployments will see Coral and Island take over the globe roaming voyages and the larger vessels take on the Canal trips. Good news for those of us that love longer voyages but would not sail on those tired ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Avery Posted September 23, 2014 #2 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Hate to hear that but ultimately inevitable for all ships. We have had a wonderful cruise on Pacific and would sail her again and again. We will not sail on the larger ships. Just do not want that many people around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoBaycruiser Posted September 23, 2014 #3 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) From experience of other sales... What does this mean for someone who is booked on a trip. If bought tomorrow, will itineraries be cancelled? Edited September 23, 2014 by SoBaycruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommypig Posted September 23, 2014 #4 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Wonder who will buy them? I may be cruising with the new owner. The little girls are my favorite ships. There is no way I will ever cruise on the Royal or Regal. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonbeam Posted September 23, 2014 #5 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Effectively yes, though that is not common. Even if the purchase is executed tomorrow, there is usually several months of time before the transfer. From experience of other sales... What does this mean for someone who is booked on a trip. If bought tomorrow, will itineraries be cancelled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted September 23, 2014 #6 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Thanks for the info & something I thought would happen sooner than later. With the Pacific's fully booked 50th anniversary cruise in December 2015 she'll be sailing Princess until then & probably kept in good condition. :) It'll be interesting to see if Oceania who already has a couple of these old Renaissance ships in their fleet will purchase these three ships & remodel them. The Island will be sailing Med cruises beginning next summer because she is the largest Princess ship (along with her sister the Coral) allowed in Venice. Before then she is undergoing a 5 week drydock which among other changes will add more cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted September 23, 2014 #7 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Sad, but not a surprise. Every time I climb aboard the Ocean I hope it will not be the last. I guess this will put in doubt the January 2016 circumnavigation of South America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin jenkins Posted September 23, 2014 #8 Share Posted September 23, 2014 send em to australia, a dumping ground for tired old ships lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icat2000 Posted September 23, 2014 #9 Share Posted September 23, 2014 send em to australia, a dumping ground for tired old ships lol Yeah Princess Australia could have them. Are they older or younger than the Sea, Sun and Dawn. PO Australia are just getting 2 HAL ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexorg Posted September 23, 2014 #10 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) I know Oceania has three of the old R-class ships in their fleet, It's possible they could want another one. Edited September 23, 2014 by Vexorg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyetlse Posted September 23, 2014 #11 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Today Carnival Corporation confirmed that Ocean Princess is listed for saleHow much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredie Posted September 24, 2014 #12 Share Posted September 24, 2014 That stinks. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkystheLimit Posted September 24, 2014 #13 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) This is so sad. To treat these 15 year old ships like they are trash is not right. With a little maintenance(Oceania does) they can be jewels for many years. Many airlines have aircraft with an average age of 15 years that are still flying and well maintained. We absolutely love these small ships. Have sailed on the original R ships on Azamara, Oceania, and Princess. Guess we have to hurry up and sail them even more than we have. Just off the Pacific Princess in August to Alaska. Never a line, no tender issues, great entertainment, wonderful personal service, easy navigation of the ship, up close glacier views, easy embark/disembark, etc. The list goes on. We will follow these wonderful ladies whenever possible. Edited September 24, 2014 by SkystheLimit word eliminated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyjguy Posted September 24, 2014 Author #14 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Oceania is apparently shopping 1 of their 3 around too; so perhaps they all will slip down to second tier operators in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Cruiser78 Posted September 24, 2014 #15 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) send em to australia, a dumping ground for tired old ships lol I hate to see them leave the US market. I don't like the monster ships--too many pax at embarkation and tendering, and I suspect mass chaos in the event of an emergency or evacuation. Edited September 24, 2014 by Ryndam2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrak Posted September 24, 2014 #16 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I was hoping to either snag a Vancouver to Hawaii cruise or (after I retire) one of the 28 day SF - Tahiti cruises on one of these ships. It seems that I will probably never manage to sail on one of them after all. I was afraid this might happen but I can't change my work situation and I can't change the Princess decision so... One can't always (or, in general, usually) have everything they want. I have heard such great things about these smaller ships. Congrats to those who are booked on the 50th anniversary cruise. You may be some of the last passengers. (At least under the Princess name...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrak Posted September 24, 2014 #17 Share Posted September 24, 2014 send em to australia, a dumping ground for tired old ships lol Yeah Princess Australia could have them. Are they older or younger than the Sea, Sun and Dawn. PO Australia are just getting 2 HAL ships. My first cruise was on Sea Princess and hooked me on cruising. I absolutely loved that ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icat2000 Posted September 24, 2014 #18 Share Posted September 24, 2014 My first cruise was on Sea Princess and hooked me on cruising. I absolutely loved that ship. I like the three ships too. Maybe the reason why they getting rid of the smaller ships is that not that profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltd Posted September 24, 2014 #19 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Anyone want to take a guess what ships Princess will use once the small ships are gone for the Tahiti & Polynesia cruises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icat2000 Posted September 24, 2014 #20 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Anyone want to take a guess what ships Princess will use once the small ships are gone for the Tahiti & Polynesia cruises? Maybe they just have a ship that does runs back and forth between Sydney and Los Angeles. You could break it up in segments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabunit Posted September 24, 2014 #21 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Today Carnival Corporation confirmed that Ocean Princess is listed for sale, and that she would be available at almost any time for the buyer. Source of information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeptuneSeas Posted September 24, 2014 #22 Share Posted September 24, 2014 send em to australia, a dumping ground for tired old ships lol Well said, mate! Ship the little girls Downunder! Just the right size for the "Apple Isle"!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyjguy Posted September 24, 2014 Author #23 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Source of information: Carnival Corporation annual shareholders report, cited in many economic stockholder reports, and also in maritime industry trade web sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkystheLimit Posted September 24, 2014 #24 Share Posted September 24, 2014 For many months the rumours have around that the 3 smaller ships in the fleet (one over at P & O) were going to be sold. Today Carnival Corporation confirmed that Ocean Princess is listed for sale, and that she would be available at almost any time for the buyer. It would appear that Pacific is the next, as much major refit work has been deferred on her too. It would appear than once the new Panama Canal locks are opened, the vessel deployments will see Coral and Island take over the globe roaming voyages and the larger vessels take on the Canal trips. Good news for those of us that love longer voyages but would not sail on those tired ships. With the exception of a couple of door handles in a public restroom there was nothing tired about the Pacific Princess in August. Very comfortable bed and clean bath. My husband commented on the fact he saw no rust--Navy guy. So, I respect his comments. There are many and maybe all of us that will miss these beautiful ships when they have left the fleet. As the old saying goes "be careful what you wish for". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickEk Posted September 24, 2014 #25 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Yeah Princess Australia could have them. Are they older or younger than the Sea, Sun and Dawn. PO Australia are just getting 2 HAL ships. Basically the same age... This is so sad. To treat these 15 year old ships like they are trash is not right. With a little maintenance(Oceania does) they can be jewels for many years. Many airlines have aircraft with an average age of 15 years that are still flying and well maintained. We absolutely love these small ships. Have sailed on the original R ships on Azamara, Oceania, and Princess. Guess we have to hurry up and sail them even more than we have. Just off the Pacific Princess in August to Alaska. Never a line, no tender issues, great entertainment, wonderful personal service, easy navigation of the ship, up close glacier views, easy embark/disembark, etc. The list goes on. We will follow these wonderful ladies whenever possible. How are they treating them like trash? They've made a business decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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