KrystaGali Posted June 2, 2015 #1 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Does anyone have suggestions on how to help a (relatively new) Friend of Bill W have a successful cruise? I know there is one gathering a day on the schedule of events, but I'm looking for other suggestions. THANKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbf Posted June 2, 2015 #2 Share Posted June 2, 2015 The Friends group and the support it can provide will vary with the group involved. My experience is that the leadership will be long sober, older folks who have been involved for many years and know the ropes. I would advise your friend to depend on them as needed, not on you. Could be your friend will not need much support (our case was like this), but all Friends know this can be fragile and having support nearby is a good thing. You need to keep in mind that the membership of the group is confidential and you need to respect that both regarding your friend and the other attenders. Given your friend is currently active with a local group, he/she should get some pre-guidance there. I have never known a local group that was not in touch with ways to get support. You might want to attend an open meeting before your cruise to get some insight into your role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrystaGali Posted June 2, 2015 Author #3 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Could be your friend will not need much support (our case was like this), but all Friends know this can be fragile and having support nearby is a good thing. You need to keep in mind that the membership of the group is confidential and you need to respect that both regarding your friend and the other attenders. Given your friend is currently active with a local group, he/she should get some pre-guidance there. I have never known a local group that was not in touch with ways to get support. You might want to attend an open meeting before your cruise to get some insight into your role. Thank you for your insight. I am very aware of the confidentiality of the groups and wholeheartedly respect their anonymity. I am hopeful that my friend will seek pre-guidance from their regular, local and home groups. My parents were just off another X cruise and asked about the programs and were informed that, unfortunately, the meetings are often cancelled on board as either no-one or only 1 person shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuAnn Posted June 3, 2015 #4 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Thank you for your insight. I am very aware of the confidentiality of the groups and wholeheartedly respect their anonymity. I am hopeful that my friend will seek pre-guidance from their regular, local and home groups. My parents were just off another X cruise and asked about the programs and were informed that, unfortunately, the meetings are often cancelled on board as either no-one or only 1 person shows up. a scheduled meeting each day in the daily program...usually at the same time (4:00 PM or 5:00 PM) and in the same location. It is the "luck of the draw" how many...if any show up! Help from their "home group" and their sponsor before sailing is a great idea...also taking along literature like "The Big Book". Good luck to your friend!! LuAnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megwal86 Posted June 3, 2015 #5 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Members will be glad to give cabin phone number.This is part of the program of giving away that which was given.Go to the designated area every day.A good time for Big Book study even if you are the only one present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hmorrow Posted June 16, 2015 #6 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Thank you for your insight. I am very aware of the confidentiality of the groups and wholeheartedly respect their anonymity. I am hopeful that my friend will seek pre-guidance from their regular, local and home groups. My parents were just off another X cruise and asked about the programs and were informed that, unfortunately, the meetings are often cancelled on board as either no-one or only 1 person shows up. It only takes two to have a meeting........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare bjahil47 Posted June 16, 2015 #7 Share Posted June 16, 2015 A friend went on our recent cruise on Equinox. There were usually 3 to 5 people there. He found it beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beh789149 Posted June 16, 2015 #8 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Your itinerary may also play a role. I find a lot less party crowds on Alaskan or Asian cruises...that may provide less triggers than expected. Your ports of call may be long enough to find a meeting in port as well. Keeping busy with positive activities and practicing a lot of self care will definitely help. Best of luck to all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandylion Posted June 17, 2015 #9 Share Posted June 17, 2015 On several of my recent cruises on celebrity the friends of Bill W meetings were NOT posted in the daily program. They were listed on the bulletin board outside of the guest relations desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrystaGali Posted June 17, 2015 Author #10 Share Posted June 17, 2015 "Beh" - We will be in Alaska. Thanks for the idea, never would have thought of recommending finding a meeting in port - what a GREAT idea! Dandylion - good to know about the posting of meeting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot2bits Posted June 17, 2015 #11 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I'm sorry, but confused. Who is Bill W? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMedic Posted June 17, 2015 #12 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I'm sorry, but confused. Who is Bill W? Alcoholics Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot2bits Posted June 18, 2015 #13 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanb41 Posted June 19, 2015 #14 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Alcoholics Anonymous Could someone please explain to me why this "focus" group gets special attention and consideration? "Diabetics" or "Heart attack survivors" for example dont get special treatment or don't they count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted June 19, 2015 #15 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Could someone please explain to me why this "focus" group gets special attention and consideration? "Diabetics" or "Heart attack survivors" for example dont get special treatment or don't they count? There are several groups that get consideration across the cruise lines. If you wish to expand that list, explain your concern to guest services pre-cruise or while on board. Good luck with your endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted June 19, 2015 #16 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Could someone please explain to me why this "focus" group gets special attention and consideration? "Diabetics" or "Heart attack survivors" for example dont get special treatment or don't they count? Probably because they don't ask, AA concerns a medical condition which cruise lines for decades have accommodated. In all my years, never heard of a heart attack or diabetes group asking for a special meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted June 20, 2015 #17 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Could someone please explain to me why this "focus" group gets special attention and consideration? "Diabetics" or "Heart attack survivors" for example dont get special treatment or don't they count? Stay classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted June 20, 2015 #18 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Practically any group can request a time/place for a special meeting. If you want to have a Diabetes Support group meeting, simply ask at Guest Relations, and they will post a notice on the "community bulletin board" Whether or not the Friends of Bill W gets listed in the program is often dependent on how many other activities the cruise line has scheduled on a different day. The program is only so long, and they can only make the type so small. If they have too many activities, that is one that might get left off the program. But the Community Bulletin board, located near Guest Relations, will still have the information on it. Also there you might find announcements for crafters, bridge players, mahjong players, Veterans's Get Togethers, and other interest groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgags47 Posted June 20, 2015 #19 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Could someone please explain to me why this "focus" group gets special attention and consideration?"Diabetics" or "Heart attack survivors" for example dont get special treatment or don't they count? Possibly because alcohol is one of the/if not the most plentiful resource on a cruise? And someone who struggled with alcoholism might need a little support while in the middle of the ocean, surrounded by all that alcohol. And I'm pretty sure that the cruise line can provide meals for Diabetics, Vegetarians, Kosher observers, etc. Would you consider those "Special Considerations"? Stay classy. +1 for this. Well said, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted June 20, 2015 #20 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Practically any group can request a time/place for a special meeting. If you want to have a Diabetes Support group meeting, simply ask at Guest Relations, and they will post a notice on the "community bulletin board" Whether or not the Friends of Bill W gets listed in the program is often dependent on how many other activities the cruise line has scheduled on a different day. The program is only so long, and they can only make the type so small. If they have too many activities, that is one that might get left off the program. But the Community Bulletin board, located near Guest Relations, will still have the information on it. Also there you might find announcements for crafters, bridge players, mahjong players, Veterans's Get Togethers, and other interest groups. It also goes back to a few years ago when they eliminated all the groups from being in the dailies and they were then placed on the Community Bulletin Board. They said at the time that AA was for medical purposes and that other groups were just affinity groups. Most complaints came at the time from Friends of Dorothy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry ATL Posted June 20, 2015 #21 Share Posted June 20, 2015 It also goes back to a few years ago when they eliminated all the groups from being in the dailies and they were then placed on the Community Bulletin Board. They said at the time that AA was for medical purposes and that other groups were just affinity groups. Most complaints came at the time from Friends of Dorothy.[/QUOT} Friends of Dorothy, the Bridge/Canasta group, etc. I see those as activities. If there is room in the dailies then great. If not, there is not a lot lost (and I am A Friend of Dorothy). Friends of Bill W is an entirely different matter. I also assume NA folks are welcome at the Friends of Bill W meetings on a ctuise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanb41 Posted June 21, 2015 #22 Share Posted June 21, 2015 It also goes back to a few years ago when they eliminated all the groups from being in the dailies and they were then placed on the Community Bulletin Board. They said at the time that AA was for medical purposes and that other groups were just affinity groups. Most complaints came at the time from Friends of Dorothy. Friends of Dorothy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYKWIA Posted June 21, 2015 #23 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Friends of Dorothy? Yes, it's a group for people who've never heard of Google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted June 21, 2015 #24 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Cleverest post of the day so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted June 21, 2015 #25 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Can someone pass me the bug spray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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