Rare jpalbny Posted June 22, 2016 #3626 Share Posted June 22, 2016 ??? Have you been into the box of wine again, Jeff? There must be special rules for you. Over on this side of the pond, we can write German with impunity. Now if you want to write about a certain political party from Germany, it will most definitely be asterisked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 22, 2016 #3627 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Good Morning JP, No .... no wine at all. :( Sadly over the last few days the "Jerman" contribution to our debate has been to warn us that if we vote to leave then we will be punished and and example would be made of us in order to dissaude other states from moving in the same direction. Such is the state of respect for democracy. Slowly the vote is polarising between those that feel angry and those that feel scared. It is shameful. I wonder what Americans would feel if they were in our situation? That is why Brits are angry with Obama. This time in two days it will be over either way. :) Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les37b Posted June 22, 2016 #3628 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Jeff have you seen that Sugar has piped up complaining about Geiser Stuart saying she's not allowed to have an opinion because she's German. I expect his own bitterness towards who was responsible for the Holocaust clouds the hypocrisy from his mind. Ironically she has come across in my mind as the best of all the campaigners that I've seen. It's also ironic that jo Cox murder is being used as it is complaining that out voters support right wing politics. The right certainly supports Brexit that's true. But once out there would be declining support. Its only risen bease of anti EU sentiments. OTOH will continue to rise if we remain. That ill feeling will always exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnip eater Posted June 23, 2016 #3629 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) Today's the day........the weather is awful, thundering and lightning in the night! Hope that it doesn't put people off voting....well depends which side they are voting for. :eek::D Edited June 23, 2016 by turnip eater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les37b Posted June 23, 2016 #3630 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) Did you notice yesterday the EU commissioner slapping cameron for telling people he will be back for more concessions and firmly stated its never going to happen. That's huge.... Yet ignored by the media apart from the obvious in voter Faisal Islam who tried to say he was talking about a brexit win and no negotiations about leaving which of course is BS. Is he seriously trying to say the UK will not be part of negotiations going forward on post EU trade and other things of similar stature. Instead they showed clips of the emotional husband of Jo Cox urging people to continue with her work and fight against evil. The other thing that annoyed the hell out of me last night was comments about unity and security within the brotherly love of our European Allies. I suppose the loud cheers and dances of success from French workers in the factory on each Exorcet (sp) missile that sunk our ships was imaginary. Out out out Edited June 23, 2016 by les37b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnip eater Posted June 23, 2016 #3631 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I hope people vote with their 'informed' heads, not knee-jerk reactions. Sigh! I can't believe Cameron saying that he'll renegotiate for us, when his last attempt was ignored. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 23, 2016 #3632 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Today Britain decides whether it is going to be self-governed or ruled by a man who use to be the Prime Minister of Luxembourg a country with a population roughly the same as Sheffield. Perhaps his most memorable quotes were: "When it becomes serious, you have to lie." — Juncker when asked about Greece's economic crisis "I'm ready to be insulted as being insufficiently democratic, but I want to be serious ... I am for secret, dark debates" “Of course there will be transfers of sovereignty. But would I be intelligent to draw the attention of public opinion to this fact?,” - On EU monetary policy... “If it's a Yes, we will say 'on we go', and if it's a No we will say 'we continue” -On French referendum over EU constitution "We decide on something, leave it lying around, and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back." - On the introduction of the euro “We all know what to do, we just don't know how to get re-elected after we've done it” - On eurozone economic policy and democracy Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les37b Posted June 23, 2016 #3633 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) I hope people vote with their 'informed' heads, not knee-jerk reactions. Sigh! I can't believe Cameron saying that he'll renegotiate for us, when his last attempt was ignored. :mad: Not only ignored, but confirmed that there are no further negotiations. But they still keep saying we will negotiate further. Not going to happen. Now wind back 3 months and Cameron saying if we dont get what we want, he will campaign to leave. Has he ever been truthful? Hopefully it will be raining latter and a poor turnout. Out out out. Edited June 23, 2016 by les37b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tothesunset Posted June 23, 2016 #3634 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Well, that's our remain votes cast. But in the event of a collective fit of the vapours leading to an exit vote then I shall clutch with relief my Irish passport and put the UK one back in the drawer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare spinnaker2 Posted June 23, 2016 #3635 Share Posted June 23, 2016 The tension is palpable. When zactly will we all know the outcome.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 23, 2016 #3636 Share Posted June 23, 2016 The tension is palpable.When zactly will we all know the outcome.. It deoends on how close it is. The final result will be around 7am on Friday earliest. Most results will be 3am onwards. An early vote from Sunderland at shortly after midnight might be an early indication. If that is remain at 53/47ish then that denotes possibly a 50/50 split nationally .... any variance from that is an early sign of good or bad gamble. A 12 point remain advantage in Newcastle at the same time ish denotes 50/50. Swindon is expected to be a 12% leave for Brexit. Oldham and Darlington 10points .... so,allthese might be early indicators. Monumental day for the UK and potentially the whole of Europe. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 23, 2016 #3637 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Only 50.7% for remain in Newcastle! Too close ..... should have been higher. They are playing with my affections. :) Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 23, 2016 #3638 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Sunderland shocker ....l.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare spinnaker2 Posted June 23, 2016 #3639 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Huh? Translate plzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 23, 2016 #3640 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) Only 5 out of 382 areas have been counted, and as you know they are all counted together. So far ....it is far too early, but the margin for stay wasn't near where it should have been for them so far it is 49.5% for remain. The pound has plummeted. Hope that is clearer. Jeff Edited June 23, 2016 by UKCruiseJeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 23, 2016 #3641 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) duplicate Edited June 23, 2016 by UKCruiseJeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 23, 2016 #3642 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Only 5 out of 382 areas have been counted, and as you know they are all counted together. So far ....it is far too early, but the margin for stay wasn't near where it should have been for them so far it is 49.5% for remain. The pound has plummeted. Hope that is clearer. Jeff .....just moved to 53% remain ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jpalbny Posted June 23, 2016 #3643 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Just saw this on Yahoo's news feed... a few seconds ago The results are in from Swindon, with a win for Leave. 61,745 votes for Leave, compared to 51,220 for Remain. This gives the Out campaign an overall lead of 50.7% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jpalbny Posted June 23, 2016 #3644 Share Posted June 23, 2016 But, will we need a recount? :D 5 minutes ago Meanwhile, in Scotland: A Counting Agent in the Highlands has been escorted from the building - because he's had too much to drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 24, 2016 #3645 Share Posted June 24, 2016 .....running total is only50.2%'for leave .....:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 24, 2016 #3646 Share Posted June 24, 2016 .........dare we hope? 53% for leave is the running total. It may all be decided by London ...... Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted June 24, 2016 #3647 Share Posted June 24, 2016 ....leave 49% ....:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TLCOhio Posted June 24, 2016 #3648 Share Posted June 24, 2016 It's now 20 minutes till midnight here in the USA's eastern time zone and CNN has just reported that both the ITV and BBC news people have called "it" as a win for the Leave side. Saying final margin will be 52-48% supporting the Leave viewpoint. Been watching things most of the evening. Interesting results, especially when you looking at the maps with the various votes in the different regions of the UK!! THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Enjoyed a 14-day, Jan. 20-Feb. 3, 2014, Sydney to Auckland adventure, getting a big sampling for the wonders of "down under” before and after this cruise. Go to: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1974139 for more info and many pictures of these amazing sights in this great part of the world. Now at 145,945 views for this posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les37b Posted June 24, 2016 #3649 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Excellent news. My flight details for cruise next year have come through. On that note...... I'm leaving..... on a jet plane..... :D I woke expecting to be staying..... Happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les37b Posted June 24, 2016 #3650 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Oops.... I voted twice.... :-) Edited June 24, 2016 by les37b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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