CGinMTL Posted September 12, 2015 #1201 Share Posted September 12, 2015 As I've mentioned in other posts, my FIL was working with a PVP from carnival who told us these cabins would connect. This really is a minute detail compared to the fact that one of the four couples was shipped off home while the remaining three couples are still on the ship. We live in the same town, requested to stay and we're still split up. I apologize to the OP if you feel that my comments on the post you started were out of line. I figured this was a general post about the fire and evacuation as it's titled. To the others- As upset as I am about some of the outcome- most specifically being split from our group- I feel that it could have been much worse and I still saw some beautiful sights and spent some great time while we had it with the family. Not everything is black and white. I have the ability to look at the positives as well. As much as I wish that there would have been different outcomes -- at the end of the day- we didn't have any control over what happened and from this point forward all we can control is our attitudes. As disappointed as some aspects were, it was still better than being at work for the week. . ignore the negative. ...... You have more right to post here then I do. We feel for you and your group for being split up. Come back and tell us how the rest of the family found the rest of the week in SJ . . One thing I noticed is that some people "quote " stuff that was said 500 posts ago without reading the rest of the story........ this just confuses everything and everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky2 Posted September 12, 2015 #1202 Share Posted September 12, 2015 As I've mentioned in other posts, my FIL was working with a PVP from carnival who told us these cabins would connect. This really is a minute detail compared to the fact that one of the four couples was shipped off home while the remaining three couples are still on the ship. We live in the same town, requested to stay and we're still split up. I apologize to the OP if you feel that my comments on the post you started were out of line. I figured this was a general post about the fire and evacuation as it's titled. To the others- As upset as I am about some of the outcome- most specifically being split from our group- I feel that it could have been much worse and I still saw some beautiful sights and spent some great time while we had it with the family. Not everything is black and white. I have the ability to look at the positives as well. As much as I wish that there would have been different outcomes -- at the end of the day- we didn't have any control over what happened and from this point forward all we can control is our attitudes. As disappointed as some aspects were, it was still better than being at work for the week. Sorry I missed the part about your FIL working with a PVP. Unfortunately, not all PVPs are that knowledgable. I would be also be livid if I had been separated from my group to fly home. CCL should have had all of you fly home together or stay on the ship together. That was not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Poupon Posted September 13, 2015 #1203 Share Posted September 13, 2015 My bil and sil are supposedly still on the ship. Haven't heard from them since Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lylone Posted September 13, 2015 #1204 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I wonder.. So OP posted they were evacuated off the ship with no money and no ID? If you can grab a call phone always grab money and ID. ID, credit cards and medical cards are always in my possession no matter what. We have become a warped society to always have a cell but not ID and money. This is just the case to plan ahead for and all essentials together in one spot ready to grab in an emergency.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boat123 Posted September 13, 2015 #1205 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I have an excellent cell phone case that in addition to my phone, it is made to have spaces for one or two credit cards, drivers license and some cash. I don't bother to carry a purse anymore, I just stick this in my pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisequeen4ever Posted September 13, 2015 #1206 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I can not even imagine why anyone would attack you, Pauley! You have gone above and beyond to keep the CC world updated and have maintained an objective "tone" the whole time. Enjoy the last of your time in San Juan, and have a safe flight home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolreader Posted September 13, 2015 #1207 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I wonder.. So OP posted they were evacuated off the ship with no money and no ID?If you can grab a call phone always grab money and ID. ID, credit cards and medical cards are always in my possession no matter what. We have become a warped society to always have a cell but not ID and money. This is just the case to plan ahead for and all essentials together in one spot ready to grab in an emergency.:D If you had read the whole thread you would know that they were sent off the ship without the opportunity to "plan ahead....essentials together....grab in an emergency". I enjoy the freedom, as I know many others do, of being able to walk around the ship with just a sign and sail card in my pocket, or on a lanyard. Some people also carry their phones to have the time, send or receive a quick message, or take pictures. No one said people went back to their rooms and only grabbed their phones. I have really enjoyed this thread because Pauley gave us info without opinions on what others should do or not do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mcatmcat Posted September 13, 2015 #1208 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Quick update Where is the liberty now? Future sailing are cancelled or not? Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising maniac Posted September 13, 2015 #1209 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) God speed, Wog. See you back home in Orlando. Edited September 13, 2015 by cruising maniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podna's Posted September 13, 2015 #1210 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Quick update Where is the liberty now? Future sailing are cancelled or not? Thanks everyone! San Juan and no cancelations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob NC Posted September 13, 2015 #1211 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Great reporting Pauley!!! I also like reading peoples opinions of how they would feel about the situation. Reading peoples opinions telling others how THEY should feel, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lylone Posted September 13, 2015 #1212 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) If you had read the whole thread you would know that they were sent off the ship without the opportunity to "plan ahead....essentials together....grab in an emergency". I enjoy the freedom, as I know many others do, of being able to walk around the ship with just a sign and sail card in my pocket, or on a lanyard. Some people also carry their phones to have the time, send or receive a quick message, or take pictures. No one said people went back to their rooms and only grabbed their phones. I have really enjoyed this thread because Pauley gave us info without opinions on what others should do or not do. Sorry, but I do plan ahead whenever I walk out the door or go anywhere and have cell, ID, one credit card and medical cards in cell phone case. Having a heart condition that likes to rear it's ugly head at the worst opportune times has taught me to always be prepared. There may be times when you don't have the opportunity to go back to the room, go to your desk at work or etc. Hence I am always prepared. People want to take chances.. they can. Edited September 13, 2015 by lylone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiquitys Posted September 13, 2015 #1213 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Have a safe trip home Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolreader Posted September 13, 2015 #1214 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Sorry, but I do plan ahead whenever I walk out the door or go anywhere and have cell, ID, one credit card and medical cards in cell phone case. Having a heart condition that likes to rear it's ugly head at the worst opportune times has taught me to always be prepared. There may be times when you don't have the opportunity to go back to the room, go to your desk at work or etc. Hence I am always prepared. People want to take chances.. they can. I was not putting you down because you plan ahead, and considering your condition it is a good idea. It read as if you were scolding people for not picking up money, credit cards, etc, but only their cell phones. I was simply trying to inform you, in case you had not had the time to read the entire thread, that people did not have the chance to go back to their cabins. The passengers in this situation already had an unpleasant time, to say the least, and did not deserve to be told they should of done something differently. I rarely post on Cruise Critic, with the exception of Roll Calls, because it irritates me to see people say 'you should have done it my way'. For me and many cruisers I have spoken to they do not carry much around with them on the ship, and this freedom is part of the appeal of cruising. If it had been me I would not even had a phone, as my flip phone costs too much to keep on while out at sea, and it does not work in most ports (except continental U.S.) Saying "I plan ahead", and "People want to take chances...they can" just sounds like you feel you are superior to most people in this unfortunate situation. I hope nothing bad ever happens to you in which people scold you, rather than have empathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwbound Posted September 13, 2015 #1215 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Has Carnival or USCG stated what caused the fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekinglemer Posted September 13, 2015 #1216 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I was not putting you down because you plan ahead, and considering your condition it is a good idea. It read as if you were scolding people for not picking up money, credit cards, etc, but only their cell phones. I was simply trying to inform you, in case you had not had the time to read the entire thread, that people did not have the chance to go back to their cabins. The passengers in this situation already had an unpleasant time, to say the least, and did not deserve to be told they should of done something differently. I rarely post on Cruise Critic, with the exception of Roll Calls, because it irritates me to see people say 'you should have done it my way'. For me and many cruisers I have spoken to they do not carry much around with them on the ship, and this freedom is part of the appeal of cruising. If it had been me I would not even had a phone, as my flip phone costs too much to keep on while out at sea, and it does not work in most ports (except continental U.S.) Saying "I plan ahead", and "People want to take chances...they can" just sounds like you feel you are superior to most people in this unfortunate situation. I hope nothing bad ever happens to you in which people scold you, rather than have empathy. If CC had a "like button".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauleydm Posted September 13, 2015 Author #1217 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I wonder.. So OP posted they were evacuated off the ship with no money and no ID?If you can grab a call phone always grab money and ID. ID, credit cards and medical cards are always in my possession no matter what. We have become a warped society to always have a cell but not ID and money. This is just the case to plan ahead for and all essentials together in one spot ready to grab in an emergency.:D Unfortunately, we had just finished trivia and only had our Sail and Sign cards and our cell phones to take pictures with. We were not allowed to go to our cabins when we were told to leave the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepeka Posted September 14, 2015 #1218 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Unfortunately, we had just finished trivia and only had our Sail and Sign cards and our cell phones to take pictures with. We were not allowed to go to our cabins when we were told to leave the ship. Like many others, I want to thank you for your timely and objective reports from the Liberty during this incident. As you've noted, there are people who will second guess and say "I would never do that!" or "why didn't you do this?" but I'm sure you understand the Monday morning quarterback mentality and hopefully you will ignore them as well as the trolls and take pride in the service you did for all of us on CC. Many, many of us appreciate it and hope you have a long future of pleasant cruises on Carnival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv0828 Posted September 14, 2015 #1219 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just curious - has this week's cruise sailed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepeka Posted September 14, 2015 #1220 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just curious - has this week's cruise sailed? I don't believe it was scheduled to depart until 10PM and as of this moment, it's still in SJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepenfun Posted September 14, 2015 #1221 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Liberty is still sitting in San Juan? Last I heard it's next sailing was going to happen and with its original itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Cruisers Posted September 14, 2015 #1222 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Liberty has just departed from SJ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summersigh Posted September 14, 2015 #1223 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Liberty is still sitting in San Juan? Last I heard it's next sailing was going to happen and with its original itinerary. Liberty was scheduled to sail at 10pm. It's now 10:55 and she's well north of the San Juan harbor. She only has to go as far as St Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tad510 Posted September 14, 2015 #1224 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Am I missing something, Liberty is still sitting in San Juan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tad510 Posted September 14, 2015 #1225 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Nevermind, I see that they are on there way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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