How common is it for passengers to be thrown off ship

[bogofman]

I have been reading though the Anthem of the seas reviews and it seems that every cruise so far is having passengers and families thrown off the ship for bad behaviour.

 

We did here it happening on our june cruise.

 

How often does this happen, i assume its not isolated to just Anthem.

 

Are RCI heavily discounting cruises, as i cannot believe someone who has paid several £****'s would risk being thrown off.

 

Any thoughts or experience of this?

[Clarea]

I once asked an officer on Monarch and they said about every two weeks.

[Aquahound]

It's actually pretty common. From what I've seen, the 2 biggest factors in the frequency of removals is the embarkation port and the length of the cruise. Here in Key West, most of the removals are from short Carnival cruises. On longer cruises, on this side of the pond, it seems to be more frequent on cruises that embark in New York/New Jersey and San Juan.

[worldspan]

Royal Caribbean is notorious for enforcing their "guest conduct policy". That being said, there have been a number of lawsuits from passengers who were thrown off that were "quietly" settled out of court by Royal Caribbean.

 

Worldspan

135 cruises strong (and no more!)

[Priusprof]

It's actually pretty common. From what I've seen, the 2 biggest factors in the frequency of removals is the embarkation port and the length of the cruise. Here in Key West, most of the removals are from short Carnival cruises. On longer cruises, on this side of the pond, it seems to be more frequent on cruises that embark in New York/New Jersey and San Juan.

Is there a way to really identify this? I can't imagine that the lines want to publicly acknowledge this happening. I can see where you would hear about this if people get kicked off in Key West based on the size of the community.

[vino123]

Yes. The folks next door to us on the Allure TA this past April were asked to leave in Malaga and not a moment too soon!

They were noisy, inconsiderate and caused many problems during the cruise, sadly we had to put up with them for 9 days as Malaga was the first and only port on the Eastbound crossing!

[Priusprof]

Royal Caribbean is notorious for enforcing their "guest conduct policy". That being said, there have been a number of lawsuits from passengers who were thrown off that were "quietly" settled out of court by Royal Caribbean.

 

Worldspan

135 cruises strong (and no more!)

I'm curious how you are privy to this. As you said, they were "quietly" handled out of court. Not so quietly that you are aware of the settlements.

[tlatrice]

Worldspan

135 cruises strong (and no more!)

 

:eek: no more? But...why?

[Priusprof]

Yes. The folks next door to us on the Allure TA this past April were asked to leave in Malaga and not a moment too soon!

They were noisy, inconsiderate and caused many problems during the cruise, sadly we had to put up with them for 9 days as Malaga was the first and only port on the Eastbound crossing!

I'm glad that RCCL took action for your sake. From my perspective I believe that the rules of conduct are there for the greater good of all passengers. If you can't abide by the rules then you should choose another type of vacation. People don't get kicked off for wearing shorts to the DR. Things that I have read about in the past include refusal to attend muster, public intoxication, fighting, and abusive behavior. In China recently they had to forcibly remove passengers from Quantum when they refused to leave at the end of their cruise. All because they changed the itinerary because of a typhoon. I think that they bend over backwards to inform and then warn people before taking action.

[Ladysilver]

Several years ago we were on the Mariner and a couple were arguing next door. Apparently the husband pushed the wife out in the hallway and locked the door because she came back to their room drunk at 2 AM. She went to guest services and told them. Her husband was "detained" and isolated by himself for two days before he was "put off" the ship in Roatan. I assumed he was on his own and had to fly home from there. His wife and daughter continued the cruise. We saw them several times during the week. :rolleyes:

[Homosassa]

On RCCL we have seen guests confined to their room (with a security guard posted at the door) and put off the ship at the next port because of their use of wacky tabacy.

[Aquahound]

Is there a way to really identify this? I can't imagine that the lines want to publicly acknowledge this happening. I can see where you would hear about this if people get kicked off in Key West based on the size of the community.

 

No, not really. About the only way is through the crime stats they report to the FBI. Otherwise, there's really no way of knowing unless someone has personal knowledge of it. Mine is based on what I see here in KW and from what I read internally at other ports (I'm USCG).

[Lionesss]

The first time we sailed the Freedom, we saw two families at customer service as we were getting ready to dock in Grand Cayman, via the grapevine heard their kids brought back "Marijuana" from Jamaica and were smoking by the pool late at night and got caught by security.

 

They were escorted off.

 

Later

[happy traveler69]

bad behavior fueled by alcohol will do it every time!!

[gkrebs]

When I first saw the Thrown off title I was wondering by whom. The crew, the police or a spouse. Was thinking more of being thrown overboard lol, not put off the ship

:D

[Tagsalong]

Had a reception with senior officers on Oasis two weeks ago and asked a three plus striper how often were pax escorted off the ship at ports of call for violating the code of conduct, or for other reasons. He said just about every week he has to take someone off at one port or another to find their own way home.

 

Now we are on the Freedom and we had lunch with the HD and I asked the same question. He also has to have passengers removed from the ship almost every week.

 

Last night when we went to our cabin a security person was sitting on a chair in front of a inside cabin down the hall from us. She was gone this morning and I ask our room steward what was going on. He said a young lady ?? was put off the ship as soon as we arrived in Falmouth because of getting into a fight with someone yesterday.

 

So, I would say it happens very frequently on Caribbean sailings.

Edited September 16, 2015 by Tagsalong

[ryano]

A security officer on Freedom told me its almost a weekly occurrence and that there are more weeks it happens than weeks it dont :eek:

 

An old friend joined us on our last Freedom cruise sailing solo. He got too much in to the brown liquor of which he has never been able to handle and got mouthy over drink prices. :rolleyes: They tried to give him a chance but he kept pressing his luck. He was the first one escorted off the ship in Falmouth after being confined to his room with a guard outside his door for three days. Rightfully so. Cost him over 600.00 to fly home from Jamaica and he only had a Passport card. Needless to say that even with a letter from the cruise line, he ran into some problems in Miami.

[RocketMan275]

Is there a way to really identify this? I can't imagine that the lines want to publicly acknowledge this happening. I can see where you would hear about this if people get kicked off in Key West based on the size of the community.

 

I'm not sure if you're referring to the fact that some passengers behave so badly that they deserve being thrown off or if you're referring to the fact that some are being thrown off.

 

Quite frankly, I wish the cruise lines would make a major deal out of throwing a passenger off the ship. Announce that tours will be delayed so that a passenger can be removed. Announce when it happens so that every one can watch. Announce why the passengers are being removed. Make sure that everyone knows that if they will get thrown off for misbehavior.

[SherriZ366]

I'm not sure if you're referring to the fact that some passengers behave so badly that they deserve being thrown off or if you're referring to the fact that some are being thrown off.

 

Quite frankly, I wish the cruise lines would make a major deal out of throwing a passenger off the ship. Announce that tours will be delayed so that a passenger can be removed. Announce when it happens so that every one can watch. Announce why the passengers are being removed. Make sure that everyone knows that if they will get thrown off for misbehavior.

I think the fact that folks see a guard at the door and someone disembarking with luggage gets around the ship pretty quickly. Edited September 16, 2015 by SherriZ366

[snorkelman]

... via the grapevine heard their kids brought back "Marijuana" from Jamaica and were smoking by the pool late at night and got caught by security.

 

They were escorted off.

 

On one eastern sailing we had a later-than-normal boarding time because the drug dogs alerted to some idiots who bought marijuana in Jamaica and put it in their suitcases. Instead of just getting escorted off, they were arrested!

[BuffettFan1]

We were on Enchantment earlier this year and a group of guys were in a room a few doors down from ours. They were all pretty drunk and obnoxious by muster call. The next morning we noticed a security guard sitting outside their door. Our stateroom attendant told us one of them started a fight the night before and was confined to his stateroom for the rest of the trip. He said the Captain was being nice to this guy by not kicking him off the ship in Nassau and just making him stay in his room for the rest of the cruise.

 

He also told us that if they kick you off the ship they report you to the local authorities at the port and if charges are filed it is by the local government and their laws. And when they kick you off the ship they also inform the FBI of you shenanigans.

[Aquahound]

He also told us that if they kick you off the ship they report you to the local authorities at the port and if charges are filed it is by the local government and their laws. And when they kick you off the ship they also inform the FBI of you shenanigans.

 

I can go one further.....here in Key West, when a passenger is thrown off, it is a violation of the PVSA. So not only do they get thrown off the ship, they also get slapped with a $300 fine from CBP.

[TEXASMUNK]

Too many of these clowns think they are in a bar in New York, or Dallas or Los Angeles. They think they will be escorted outside and that is the end of it. They are probably clueless that the instant that ship leaves their US port that they are subject to the Captain's authority or the laws of the country they maybe visiting.

Just think, it also means the lines at disembarkation are faster!!! Less passengers in line!

Edited September 16, 2015 by TEXASMUNK

[RocketMan275]

I think the fact that folks see a guard at the door and someone disembarking with luggage gets around the ship pretty quickly.

 

You're right. Some scumbag lawyer would take the case, intentional public embarrassment. Maybe some lawyers should be publically embarrassed.

[Parramatta]

When we were o the Oasis in 2012 our ports were reversed due to a hurricane so Nassau was the last port and a short stay as well for our Eastern Carribean itinerary, some teenagers threw a life buoy overboard, the life buoy was spotted by a passenger who reported it.

 

The ship turned around to pick it up and investigate, at this time Oasis recognised it as one of their own and due to the number on the buoy, found out where it came from and reviewed the security footage and found out who threw it overboard. The kids where tracked down and disembarked at Nassau along with their families.

 

We heard rumours about fines, lifetime RCI bans and having to pay the extra fuel costs but I don't know how much of that is true.

 

As the port visit was already short some tours were cancelled and others very rushed like ours.

 

I don't imagine the kids were very popular with their families as this was the last port before home and would have created a lot of additional costs for them or the people who missed their tours and may not get the opportunity to cruise again.