jules815 Posted November 8, 2015 #26 Share Posted November 8, 2015 We would love to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmasNana Posted November 8, 2015 #27 Share Posted November 8, 2015 We want to go but not at those prices. I figure Carnival is doing this fatham line thing to get their foot in the door before the other lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted November 8, 2015 #28 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I have been paying about 1600 a person for 7 day GS, I would do Cuba if I could get GS for about 1600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtex1622 Posted November 9, 2015 Author #29 Share Posted November 9, 2015 You have to work. And You are not allowed to leave the group and go off on your own to explore.:mad: Not for us. I know, I wonder how many people will actually pay that price. Have to work, No excursions, just to give Carnival a good name. Past cruise we met some from Sweden, they just went to Cuba, and loved the beaches. So apparently U.S. cruises have to work to visit, if you can call it that. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachtocruis Posted November 9, 2015 #30 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Until my family that is still in Cuba, can enjoy the same freedom's I do, I will not go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominichunter Posted November 9, 2015 #31 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Go to the Silversea forum and check out "Cuba.Where everyone loves Ron" thread. Fantastic pictures and info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtex1622 Posted November 10, 2015 Author #32 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Go to the Silversea forum and check out "Cuba.Where everyone loves Ron" thread. Fantastic pictures and info. Thanks ! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYcruzzer Posted November 10, 2015 #33 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I know, I wonder how many people will actually pay that price.Have to work, No excursions, just to give Carnival a good name. Past cruise we met some from Sweden, they just went to Cuba, and loved the beaches. So apparently U.S. cruises have to work to visit, if you can call it that. . Don't think Fathom passangers will have to actually work to be in compliance. People to People exchange programs qualify. I think passangers wil be led on tours that include cultural visits to museums, local preformances and lectures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w&k Posted November 10, 2015 #34 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I will not be putting it on my bucket list until both the price goes down drastically and it does not come with strings attached. Well said. As soon as these two conditions are satisfied, I'm in the front of the line. Wendy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrenalineRush Posted November 10, 2015 #35 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Don't think Fathom passangers will have to actually work to be in compliance. People to People exchange programs qualify. I think passangers wil be led on tours that include cultural visits to museums, local preformances and lectures. Correct, fathom pax arent required to work. This us from the fathom faq for Cuba The overarching objective of the Fathom experience in Cuba is to support cultural exchange and economic growth for the Cuban people. As such, the itinerary will include diverse onboard educational programming and on-the-ground immersion experiences in strict compliance with the travel authorizations contained in the Cuban Assets Control Regulations. Fathom activities in Cuba will include educational and cultural exchange, and these programs will be designed to deeply enrich the lives of Fathom travelers and of the Cuban people. Are travelers required to participate? Yes, while travelers to Cuba will have the flexibility to customize their trips before they board the ship, they will be required to participate in cultural exchange programs on-the-ground to be in compliance with the travel authorizations contained in the Cuban Assets Control Regulations. Involvement in on-board social-impact programs will have more flexibility, and are all designed to enrich the lives of Fathom travelers and enhance their travel experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted November 10, 2015 #36 Share Posted November 10, 2015 As long as the Castrols are in power, I would never stop foot on in that Country. They are in the same category as is Venezuela. I would not want to spend any of my money to assist a Communist, or a Socialist Country. China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Cares? Posted November 10, 2015 #37 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) I just got an E-mail, leaving Miami to 3 ports in Cuba.It is a little expensive, starting at $1,800 Per Person. I think it is just that it's new. BUT it is Carnival, NOT Royal. Do you think that Royal will start going there too? I know that 2016, and 2017 schedules are out, but they can always change. So would you go? and at those prices? Just to be clear, it's not Carnival Cruise Line offering this cruise. It's Fathom Cruises which is a new cruise line started by Carnival Corporation. It's a Peace Corp type, save the world cruise line where people pay exorbitant prices to go and work in other countries. And no, even if they paid me to take that cruise I would not go as long as Cuba is under a Communist regime. Edited November 10, 2015 by Who Cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Cares? Posted November 10, 2015 #38 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Go to Canada. Return airfare and a nice all inclusive resort will be around $1000 to $1200 per person. Even flying from Canada, an American will still have an American passport and will be denied entry. It is also illegal to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouhunter Posted November 10, 2015 #39 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I have been to Cuba several times and going again for a week in March. They have the most beautiful beaches I have ever seen. I would cruise there in a heart beat if pricing were equivalent to cruises today. That can be said for probably 20 Caribbean destinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted November 10, 2015 #40 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Even flying from Canada, an American will still have an American passport and will be denied entry. It is also illegal to do so. It's illegal by US law, not Cuban law. No, they will not be denied entry. Americans fly to Cuba every day from 3rd party countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laumicmah Posted November 10, 2015 #41 Share Posted November 10, 2015 As long as the Castrols are in power, I would never stop foot on in that Country. They are in the same category as is Venezuela. I would not want to spend any of my money to assist a Communist, or a Socialist Country. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Frances Posted November 10, 2015 #42 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) As long as the Castrols are in power, I would never stop foot on in that Country. They are in the same category as is Venezuela. I would not want to spend any of my money to assist a Communist, or a Socialist Country. Europeans and Canadians have been going (in the millions) to Cuba for years. The people are fabulous and the country is beautiful. I know our friends who go to Cuba every year worry about what will happen to it when (sooner than later I think) when their close neighbours in the US start arriving. We hope it doesn't change into Diamonds International or something. We have travelled to Vietnam twice, done a 2 week land tour of China (incredible country). St Petersburg, Russia and just revisited beautiful Shanghai for the second time. It is a shame to limit your travel options because of politics in another country IMO. Besides, I have heard our friends to the south call us in Canada "Socialists" more than once or twice lol Here is a taste of Cuba:) http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/unseen-cuba-first-aerial-photographs-reveal-islands-spectacular-beauty-1501542 Edited November 10, 2015 by Christine Frances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnetpalmetto Posted November 10, 2015 #43 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) This! So I assume you're not going to get off the ship in the Dominican Republic when you visit? After all, those nasty social democrats (the PLD) are currently in power, holding the presidency and a majority in the legislature. Edited November 10, 2015 by garnetpalmetto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rum & monkey Posted November 10, 2015 #44 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Carnival Corp is not the only cruise line going, come this January and February you can go with Chicago based luxury cruise liner Haimark out of Miami (10 days, 9 Cuban ports- you visit different cities and encircle the entire island). People to people restrictions is enjoying their culture in each city, not necessarily working. You can also go with Globus (a touring company out of Colorado) that has the Greek cruise line Celestyal Cruises (they already do Cuban cruises from Jamaica and Cuba) chartered doing 9-19 days of Cuba from Miami. There are also many land based companies offering visits to Cuba but none of the other options are any cheaper than Carnival Corp. option. So far the people to people puts laying on the beach as not an option but as long as you are interacting with the culture and the people it is allowed (museums, seeing the architecture of the cities, interacting with the locals, etc.) and you can even do it on your own without a touring company you just need to follow the guidelines and so far vacationing on the beach is not in those. Several airlines have direct flights from Miami and you can even book through Airbnb for accommodations but do need to get your plans approved for your people to people cultural experience. All the touring plans look incredible and you will come away with more of an appreciation for the culture and the people of Cuba (that does not mean the government) than you would a week at the beach but it is still very expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Frances Posted November 10, 2015 #45 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Also Cuba Cruise which was originally Canadian but now bought out http://yourcubacruise.com/ and Oceania http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=6477 And lots of info here http://boards.cruisecritic.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1009 Edited November 10, 2015 by Christine Frances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZandZ Posted November 10, 2015 #46 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I would love to go, but not at this price and not on those terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted November 10, 2015 #47 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Dad's a native, 80 years old, left in 59. Clock is ticking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Cares? Posted November 11, 2015 #48 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Europeans and Canadians have been going (in the millions) to Cuba for years. The people are fabulous and the country is beautiful. I know our friends who go to Cuba every year worry about what will happen to it when (sooner than later I think) when their close neighbours in the US start arriving. We hope it doesn't change into Diamonds International or something. We have travelled to Vietnam twice, done a 2 week land tour of China (incredible country). St Petersburg, Russia and just revisited beautiful Shanghai for the second time. It is a shame to limit your travel options because of politics in another country IMO. Besides, I have heard our friends to the south call us in Canada "Socialists" more than once or twice lol Here is a taste of Cuba:) http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/unseen-cuba-first-aerial-photographs-reveal-islands-spectacular-beauty-1501542 Why? People limit their travel options all the time for all different kinds of reasons, why should the political nature of an area be any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Cares? Posted November 11, 2015 #49 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) So I assume you're not going to get off the ship in the Dominican Republic when you visit? After all, those nasty social democrats (the PLD) are currently in power, holding the presidency and a majority in the legislature. Ah, so you agree they were voted into power instead of being a dictatorial regime? :rolleyes: Edited November 11, 2015 by Who Cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Frances Posted November 11, 2015 #50 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Why? People limit their travel options all the time for all different kinds of reasons, why should the political nature of an area be any different? Well you can always float in circles around the Caribbean:) Just not for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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