twroths Posted March 3, 2016 #1 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Does anyone know if the Oosterdam is due for a refit and update any time soon? We are just off the 10 day Southern Caribbean and she is in need of some love. While she was clean and seemed mechanically sound, the carpets were tattered and the decor was off by a few decades. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yj_eugene Posted March 3, 2016 #2 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) Does anyone know if the Oosterdam is due for a refit and update any time soon? We are just off the 10 day Southern Caribbean and she is in need of some love. While she was clean and seemed mechanically sound, the carpets were tattered and the decor was off by a few decades. Just my opinion. April, when they're also going to ruin the best area of the Crows Nest by wasting its space on a silly art studio. Edited March 3, 2016 by yj_eugene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMLincoln Posted March 3, 2016 #3 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Sorry to hear these comments. When I cruised on O'dam several years ago I thought she was a most elegant ship. Haven't seen her recently, and now to hear that they are chopping up the Crow's Nest is not good news to me. I guess they need more revenue-producing square footage. I think I'd rather pay a little more. m-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted March 3, 2016 #4 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) Oosterdam has long had the most bilious carpets afloat and those dreadful blue boy benches. She does deserve a good redo. Sorry to hear about the Crows Nest changes - bad enough when they put the Library up there. Love the S-X-Y-Z cabins on the Vista ships, but there is not much to like elsewhere compared to her older, better endowed sisters. Edited March 3, 2016 by OlsSalt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted March 3, 2016 #5 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Does anyone know if the Oosterdam is due for a refit and update any time soon? We are just off the 10 day Southern Caribbean and she is in need of some love. While she was clean and seemed mechanically sound, the carpets were tattered and the decor was off by a few decades. Just my opinion. How was the service onboard? On our Dec cruise it was not bad, but nowhere near as good as on the Zuiderdam we were on 9 months earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZNative2000 Posted March 3, 2016 #6 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Does anyone know if the Oosterdam is due for a refit and update any time soon? We are just off the 10 day Southern Caribbean and she is in need of some love. While she was clean and seemed mechanically sound, the carpets were tattered and the decor was off by a few decades. Just my opinion. It has been mentioned that O-Dam is scheduled for an extensive dry dock in April. They will be adding all the new suite upgrades and many other things at that time. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising_Bif Posted March 3, 2016 #7 Share Posted March 3, 2016 How extensively do they tend to replace carpets during drydocks? I'm sailing on the Noordam in May and understand she underwent a drydock last April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheWASide Posted March 3, 2016 #8 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) It has been mentioned that O-Dam is scheduled for an extensive dry dock in April. They will be adding all the new suite upgrades and many other things at that time. Cheers! The items I can think of right off the top of my head are: Rijksmuseum at Sea (port side of Crow's Nest) Upgrades to all the Signature and Neptune Suites Piano and Sports Bar become Billboard Onboard Northern Lights becomes Gallery Bar Explorers Lounge becomes Lincoln Center Stage Lido Restaurant becomes Lido Market (if they didn't already work that in) Extra rooms up top aft of Crow's Nest Retreat Cabanas added on top of newly added staterooms Obviously all the TYPICAL drydock stuff and it wouldn't surprise me if there's a couple more things I'm not thinking of Edited March 3, 2016 by InTheWASide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheWASide Posted March 3, 2016 #9 Share Posted March 3, 2016 How extensively do they tend to replace carpets during drydocks? I'm sailing on the Noordam in May and understand she underwent a drydock last April. For the most part I think all public rooms are done. Rooms and corridors on the stateroom decks are on more of an as needed approach I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted March 3, 2016 #10 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Oosterdam has long had the most bilious carpets afloat and those dreadful blue boy benches. She does deserve a good redo. Sorry to hear about the Crows Nest changes - bad enough when they put the Library up there. Love the S-X-Y-Z cabins on the Vista ships, but there is not much to like elsewhere compared to her older, better endowed sisters. I think Zuiderdam gets the prize for carpets. IIRC, they were bright orangy-red and purply-blue. After the understated decor of Cunard, Zuidy was a shock to my eyeballs! I made a survey of carpets on Oosterdam. They're all the same basic pattern with variations in the color palette. I found five different color variations. (Sea day with nothing to do but experiment with a new camera.) Don't get me started on the strange collection of chairs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted March 3, 2016 #11 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Does anyone know if the Oosterdam is due for a refit and update any time soon? We are just off the 10 day Southern Caribbean and she is in need of some love. While she was clean and seemed mechanically sound, the carpets were tattered and the decor was off by a few decades. Just my opinion. Sorry to hear that she is showing her age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted March 3, 2016 #12 Share Posted March 3, 2016 The items I can think of right off the top of my head are: Rijksmuseum at Sea (port side of Crow's Nest) Upgrades to all the Signature and Neptune Suites Piano and Sports Bar become Billboard Onboard Northern Lights becomes Gallery Bar Explorers Lounge becomes Lincoln Center Stage Lido Restaurant becomes Lido Market (if they didn't already work that in) Extra rooms up top aft of Crow's Nest Retreat Cabanas added on top of newly added staterooms Obviously all the TYPICAL drydock stuff and it wouldn't surprise me if there's a couple more things I'm not thinking of Thank you for the information. Sounds like the Captain's Corner going to go to make room for the Rijksmuseum. Sure isn't going to be much of the original Crow's Nest left. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twroths Posted March 3, 2016 Author #13 Share Posted March 3, 2016 We thought the service was quite nice. Our cabin Steward was charming and helpful. MDR staff was nice. I thought a couple of the people at the Front Desk were a little testy, but it just might have been a bad day. Most of the bar servers were quite nice as well. We spent most afternoons in the Crows Nest and the bartender and servers all knew what I drank after about day 3 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ofmyheart Posted March 3, 2016 #14 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I am happy to hear about her face lift, we will be on her in Nov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammiedawg Posted March 3, 2016 #15 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I think Zuiderdam gets the prize for carpets. IIRC, they were bright orangy-red and purply-blue. After the understated decor of Cunard, Zuidy was a shock to my eyeballs! I made a survey of carpets on Oosterdam. They're all the same basic pattern with variations in the color palette. I found five different color variations. (Sea day with nothing to do but experiment with a new camera.) Don't get me started on the strange collection of chairs! Zuiderdam is butt ugly, the ugliest ship I have seen. The ugliness goes beyond carpet color. I think Holland America interiors are unattractive across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey & Sophie Posted March 3, 2016 #16 Share Posted March 3, 2016 April, when they're also going to ruin the best area of the Crows Nest by wasting its space on a silly art studio. We just got off the Oosterdam. The Crow's nest was pretty much unusable for most of the voyage due to Trivia and other gatherings. Pretty aggravating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted March 4, 2016 #17 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Good. We will be tetaively watching Oosterdam and Eurodam for a late booking Oct. Med cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted March 4, 2016 #18 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The items I can think of right off the top of my head are: Rijksmuseum at Sea (port side of Crow's Nest) Upgrades to all the Signature and Neptune Suites Piano and Sports Bar become Billboard Onboard Northern Lights becomes Gallery Bar Explorers Lounge becomes Lincoln Center Stage Lido Restaurant becomes Lido Market (if they didn't already work that in) Extra rooms up top aft of Crow's Nest Retreat Cabanas added on top of newly added staterooms Obviously all the TYPICAL drydock stuff and it wouldn't surprise me if there's a couple more things I'm not thinking of What is the Lincoln Center Stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPH814 Posted March 4, 2016 #19 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The items I can think of right off the top of my head are: Rijksmuseum at Sea (port side of Crow's Nest) Upgrades to all the Signature and Neptune Suites Piano and Sports Bar become Billboard Onboard Northern Lights becomes Gallery Bar Explorers Lounge becomes Lincoln Center Stage Lido Restaurant becomes Lido Market (if they didn't already work that in) Extra rooms up top aft of Crow's Nest Retreat Cabanas added on top of newly added staterooms Obviously all the TYPICAL drydock stuff and it wouldn't surprise me if there's a couple more things I'm not thinking of What change is being made to the Piano Bar? Hopefully it will not be eliminated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted March 4, 2016 #20 Share Posted March 4, 2016 What change is being made to the Piano Bar? Hopefully it will not be eliminated? Pretty much, yes. :( The whole concept is being changed with the walls removed, space opened up to encompass the former Sports Bar/Casino Bar. Two pianos. Gone are the days of an intimate area where a musician and the crowd had a party every night. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linerguy Posted March 4, 2016 #21 Share Posted March 4, 2016 How extensively do they tend to replace carpets during drydocks? I'm sailing on the Noordam in May and understand she underwent a drydock last April. Really? I was just on her in September and kept thinking how incredibly tired and dated she looked. Maybe they just replaced the light bulbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mightycruisequeen Posted March 4, 2016 #22 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Seeing posts about a HAL ship looking tired always makes me snicker a little. The passenger mix has to be factored in, don't you think? I mean, most of your fellow pax look pretty tired, and you want to check for a pulse on a few. It's enough to make the Koningsdam look like it's in dire need of a refit. ;) Edited March 4, 2016 by mightycruisequeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summersigh Posted March 4, 2016 #23 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Seeing posts about a HAL ship looking tired always makes me snicker a little. The passenger mix has to be factored in, don't you think? I mean, most of your fellow pax look pretty tired, and you want to check for a pulse on a few. It's enough to make the Koningsdam look like it's in dire need of a refit. ;) We, with the gray hair, once were young like you .... and sooner than you think you'll be "tired" like us. Basically we're proud to have gotten this far. We worked, raised our kids, paid taxes, saved what we could and now deserve something for ourselves.... like a cruise. Do you think you younger folks would have as many choices of ships to sail without the "tired pax" keeping so many of them busy off season when school is in session for younger families? Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mightycruisequeen Posted March 4, 2016 #24 Share Posted March 4, 2016 We, with the gray hair, once were young like you .... and sooner than you think you'll be "tired" like us. Basically we're proud to have gotten this far. We worked, raised our kids, paid taxes, saved what we could and now deserve something for ourselves.... like a cruise. Do you think you younger folks would have as many choices of ships to sail without the "tired pax" keeping so many of them busy off season when school is in session for younger families? Just sayin' Why would you assume that I'm young? My kids have gray hair!:D We're retired, raised our bunch of kids (who all now have a bunch of their own kids). We're probably older than you are, but we're hardly "tired". No, actually, we are tired of the entitlement attitude we see way too much of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising_Bif Posted March 4, 2016 #25 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Really? I was just on her in September and kept thinking how incredibly tired and dated she looked. Maybe they just replaced the light bulbs. What a bummer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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