KansasK Posted June 25, 2016 #51 Share Posted June 25, 2016 On the Allure, the Casino Bar was in the smoking section. We had two mornings when the weather was cloudy and it cleared off about noon. Both days many smokers went to the casino for a place to smoke indoors. I think this is how it will be. There is no other place to smoke indoors. I just view the casino as a place that I don't spend much time in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTownNick Posted June 25, 2016 #52 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Lighten Up Francis I assume you are referring to the casino, as there are outside smoking areas on all Celebrity ships. Yes. Celebrity has all non smoking casinos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG1924 Posted June 25, 2016 #53 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) As soon as smokers realise how hated they are how disgusting the habit is and how bad it is for everybody who's with them and themselves they might understand why people react the way they do. Blow smoke anywhere near me and people are likely to get hurt. I consider it an assault on my health. Fair game to respond in kind Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Take it down a notch there....I am a smoker :o and I assure you that I have many people in my life that do not hate me for it. If you are in a smoking area and I am blowing smoke out, I would really hope you don't hurt me. I promise I'm a nice person with a gross habit. That being said, I know it's disgusting and harmful. But it's also not illegal as stupid as it may be. The more and more they keep taking away spots to smoke at, the more crowded the smoking areas will be. There were 3 spots to smoke on the Allure-a small section on deck 15, an even smaller section on deck 16, and the Casino. Every single night the casino was packed with smokers. It was actually even uncomfortable for me being a smoker. I don't have a solution for it and I get why people don't like it, but I also don't like posts like that implying that smokers are simply bad people. Edited June 25, 2016 by KG1924 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeypapa Posted June 25, 2016 #54 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Smoking is allowed on all ships and companies!!!! It is 100 yards off the aft of the ship!!! Enjoy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasK Posted June 26, 2016 #55 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Take it down a notch there....I am a smoker :o and I assure you that I have many people in my life that do not hate me for it. If you are in a smoking area and I am blowing smoke out, I would really hope you don't hurt me. I promise I'm a nice person with a gross habit. That being said, I know it's disgusting and harmful. But it's also not illegal as stupid as it may be. The more and more they keep taking away spots to smoke at, the more crowded the smoking areas will be. There were 3 spots to smoke on the Allure-a small section on deck 15, an even smaller section on deck 16, and the Casino. Every single night the casino was packed with smokers. It was actually even uncomfortable for me being a smoker. I don't have a solution for it and I get why people don't like it, but I also don't like posts like that implying that smokers are simply bad people. I agree that smokers are not simply bad people. My brother smoked for 40 years and he is a great guy and he was a courteous smoker. If you are smoking in a smoking area, it is up to me to avoid the area if I do not want to breathe smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartbda Posted June 26, 2016 #56 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Smoking is allowed on all ships and companies!!!! It is 100 yards off the aft of the ship!!! Enjoy!!!! Just so you know, this :cool: smiley means cool. So by the look of your post, it seems like you think smoking is cool.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Dancer Posted June 26, 2016 #57 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I agree that smokers are not simply bad people. My brother smoked for 40 years and he is a great guy and he was a courteous smoker. If you are smoking in a smoking area, it is up to me to avoid the area if I do not want to breathe smoke. I don't do either, but you are OK with only smokers can gamble? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharaoh Posted June 26, 2016 #58 Share Posted June 26, 2016 The reason I feel that it needed to be said is because people in general FAR TOO OFTEN use the excuse of an allergy when in fact they DO NOT actually have one!! If you do not like something or can not be around it then don't be. But don't use the excuse that you "Have an Allergy" when in fact you simply don't want to be around smoke! People who have actual Life Threatening Allergies will thank you for correcting your choice of words. When cigarette smoke causes someone's asthma to flare up and they have an attack and CANNOT BREATHE, I think that counts as life threatening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnDeNo.UK Posted June 26, 2016 #59 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Has anyone else seen confirmation of this, checked the usual Royal FB page and saw nothing. Hopefully someone on Indy can confirm soon. The no smoking started on May 1st. We were on the T/A, went to the Casino for a cigarette, no ash trays anywhere. I asked the bartender if I could have a cigarette, I was told, as from that day, there was no smoking in the Casino. Not all the staff new about this 'new rule'. I do believe there was the odd night that smoking was allowed in there. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs-M Posted June 26, 2016 #60 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Was on the Indy from Southampton June 4th sailing and there was no smoking whatsoever in the casino, we actually went in there this time because of that, whereas we've never bothered before as it was everywhere. Still the normal spots on Deck 4 and 11 in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjen Posted June 26, 2016 #61 Share Posted June 26, 2016 As a non-smoker, I actually welcomed the smoke smell in the casino on Anthem....for some reason it gave the place a "partying" atmosphere. I think that's because I'm playing in a band on weekends and it's all part of the venues I play at....I feel bad for the smokers and think it should be allowed in the casinos. Smoking is very difficult to quit, so hat's off to you smokers, you should at least have that place to have a cigarette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucymorgan Posted June 26, 2016 #62 Share Posted June 26, 2016 As a non-smoker, I actually welcomed the smoke smell in the casino on Anthem....for some reason it gave the place a "partying" atmosphere. I think that's because I'm playing in a band on weekends and it's all part of the venues I play at....I feel bad for the smokers and think it should be allowed in the casinos. Smoking is very difficult to quit, so hat's off to you smokers, you should at least have that place to have a cigarette. I agree (from personal experience) that smoking is very difficult to quit. I also agree that there should be an indoor place to smoke for those who need to(although it is banned indoors in most of Australia). However, why should non-smokers (or ex-smokers) have to breath in the smoke in the casino and have it pollute their clothes when it is difficult or expensive to get them cleaned onboard. I don't judge smokers at all but I also don't think that having all smokers gather in the casino is a good idea. It concentrates the damage in a place where people who don't smoke also gather. Perhaps there should be a resurgence of the cigar rooms which also cater for smokers just as there are smoking rooms in many airports in Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MommaBear55 Posted June 26, 2016 #63 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I agree with you here. Normally I am disappointed with over use of the word 'allergic' but I think you have a good point. Asthma is a fine example of the body having an inappropriate immune system / inflammatory over-reaction to something which would not cause such a reaction: an 'allergic reaction' is apt. And since it is a histamine mediated response in some asthmatics, it is technically an allergy, The classic treatment for allergy is an antihistamine, epinephrine and steroids, which is how an acute phase response of an asthma exacerbation is treated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MommaBear55 Posted June 26, 2016 #64 Share Posted June 26, 2016 When cigarette smoke causes someone's asthma to flare up and they have an attack and CANNOT BREATHE, I think that counts as life threatening. Yep, as a medical professional and an adthmatic, I concur. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelly55 Posted June 26, 2016 #65 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I agree (from personal experience) that smoking is very difficult to quit. I also agree that there should be an indoor place to smoke for those who need to(although it is banned indoors in most of Australia). However, why should non-smokers (or ex-smokers) have to breath in the smoke in the casino and have it pollute their clothes when it is difficult or expensive to get them cleaned onboard. I don't judge smokers at all but I also don't think that having all smokers gather in the casino is a good idea. It concentrates the damage in a place where people who don't smoke also gather. Perhaps there should be a resurgence of the cigar rooms which also cater for smokers just as there are smoking rooms in many airports in Asia. On Freedom class ships (and I think Voyager class) there is the connoisseur club which is a dedicated smoking lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted June 26, 2016 #66 Share Posted June 26, 2016 On Freedom class ships (and I think Voyager class) there is the connoisseur club which is a dedicated smoking lounge. Even that may not be for long. That lounge is scheduled to be turned into a card room/library on Adventure later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearthosesteeldrumsplayin Posted June 26, 2016 #67 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I would appreciate non-smoking in the casino! Bring it on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjen Posted June 26, 2016 #68 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I agree (from personal experience) that smoking is very difficult to quit. I also agree that there should be an indoor place to smoke for those who need to(although it is banned indoors in most of Australia). However, why should non-smokers (or ex-smokers) have to breath in the smoke in the casino and have it pollute their clothes when it is difficult or expensive to get them cleaned onboard. I don't judge smokers at all but I also don't think that having all smokers gather in the casino is a good idea. It concentrates the damage in a place where people who don't smoke also gather. Perhaps there should be a resurgence of the cigar rooms which also cater for smokers just as there are smoking rooms in many airports in Asia. The smoke in there is actually controlled very well. It's doable for non-smokers....at least I felt that way. Everyone, smokers and non-smokers, were having a good time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogofman Posted June 26, 2016 #69 Share Posted June 26, 2016 The smoke in there is actually controlled very well. It's doable for non-smokers....at least I felt that way. Everyone, smokers and non-smokers, were having a good time! No way, these days I cannot stand it, as it sets off my sinuses, my wife suffers with migraine and smoke is one of the triggers, see can smell it at 100 paces :) I remember the bad old days in the UK, when pubs here were so full of smoke, my eyes were steaming with tears, (I have not been a smoker) but must have consumed many 1000s with passive smoking It's so good to have no smoking in side theses days any where in UK And every one has got used to it Not that long ago , you could be in a resturants and the tables around you would all light up while you were still eating. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel_cruise Posted June 26, 2016 #70 Share Posted June 26, 2016 And since it is a histamine mediated response in some asthmatics, it is technically an allergy, The classic treatment for allergy is an antihistamine, epinephrine and steroids, which is how an acute phase response of an asthma exacerbation is treated. This is how my doctor has explained it to me as well - since it causes my sinuses to flare and my eyes to water, it is an allergy and is treated with an antihistamine. True - it's not life threatening, but most allergies are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted June 27, 2016 #71 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) I sure hope this goes feet-wide! I have not been in one of the casinos in more than a decade because I just can't stand the smoke. I know I am in good company with those wishes. Same here. Mom and step-dad love playing in the casino, but won't step foot in there at all. Edited June 27, 2016 by ReneeFLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted June 27, 2016 #72 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Indy is sailing from the UK now, right? Not surprising, I believe the same thing happens when sailing from Australia. Do you know if this happens from Sydney to Honolulu on the Radiance? It would be fantastic if it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted June 27, 2016 #73 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Do you know if this happens from Sydney to Honolulu on the Radiance? It would be fantastic if it did. Sorry, I don't recall seeing anything about smoking on that cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted June 27, 2016 #74 Share Posted June 27, 2016 We went to the casino and gambled one afternoon. We went to the casino to smoke every day of the cruise though. It was the only place you could smoke and order a drink. Outlaw it everywhere but 2 spots on the ship and guess what, everyone is going to congregate and smoke in those 2 spots. Not hard to figure out. Over 20% of Americans are smokers. That's a lot of business they lose out on if they outlaw it on ships completely. Imagine if they said "Hispanics and multi-racial people are banned from all ships". That's the same % of Americans as smokers... But hey, they run a business I'm sure they know more than I do. They would not lose any business if they banned smoking. Those smokers that are serious gamblers would still gamble in between smoking breaks taking outside. More non-smokers who would never gamble would now be gambling. I would say allowing it on the balconies, but not the casino would be a fair trade. I don't smoke and have never been bothered by it on balcony when it was allowed. I thought it was just millennial's who are over-sensitive, but I guess not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Absolutely not. It would not be a fair trade off. I like my balconies for many reasons. One is to go out there and enjoy the FRESH AIR while I am reading, napping, morning coffee or whatever else I want to do. It's my own little sanctuary. Having smokers around me would totally ruin it. If they want to gamble with their life that's their peragotive, but not with mine. I have had people smoking on the balcony near mine and I have reported it if I smell it. If I see it and don't smell it then I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Cruisers Posted June 27, 2016 #75 Share Posted June 27, 2016 They would not lose any business if they banned smoking. Those smokers that are serious gamblers would still gamble in between smoking breaks taking outside. More non-smokers who would never gamble would now be gambling.... Agree with you, Renee. The non-smoking casinos on Celebrity ships are packed - no business lost there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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