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don24

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There was a big thread about it when it happened. Wasn't a private jet - it was a French military jet.

there is no way in heck thats any kind of milita, wait you said french military .sure why not.

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FreestyleNovice

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None yet. But we will be bothered if we did.

 

Not sure why nobody is bothered when a NYPD helicopter circles the ship in NY but are when an allied marked military aircraft does a few close passes.

 

When you're in distress you might want them to do the same low level passes on their search and rescue, dropping aid/rafts/whatever when they locate you, in a trained manner. :)

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Lido_Deck

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There was a big thread about it when it happened. Wasn't a private jet - it was a French military jet.

 

OK, if you can't recognize sarcasm then we can get technical. It was a "Private Jet" that is owned by the French Military, a Dasault Falcon 50 to be precise.

 

http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/dassault-falcon/50

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Not sure why nobody is bothered when a NYPD helicopter circles the ship in NY but are when an allied marked military aircraft does a few close passes.

 

When you're in distress you might want them to do the same low level passes on their search and rescue, dropping aid/rafts/whatever when they locate you, in a trained manner. :)

 

It was not clearly marked (if at all) and would have been of little use in a search and rescue at such high speeds. It was just some unprofessional hotdogs being *******es...

 

http://bernews.com/2016/06/french-aircraft-crew-apologise-for-disturbance/

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OK, if you can't recognize sarcasm then we can get technical. It was a "Private Jet" that is owned by the French Military, a Dasault Falcon 50 to be precise.

 

http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/dassault-falcon/50

 

What's "private" when it's owned by the French government? It was build as a military spec jet for maritime tasks on a private jet/small airline jet platform. No leather seats, lush carpeting and walnut decor around. ;)

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What's "private" when it's owned by the French government? It was build as a military spec jet for maritime tasks on a private jet/small airline jet platform. No leather seats, lush carpeting and walnut decor around. ;)

 

A business jet, private jet, or bizjet, or simply B.J., is a jet aircraft designed for transporting small groups of people. Business jets may be adapted for other roles, such as the evacuation of casualties or express parcel deliveries, and some are used by public bodies, government officials or the armed forces.

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It was not clearly marked (if at all) and would have been of little use in a search and rescue at such high speeds. It was just some unprofessional hotdogs being *******es...

 

http://bernews.com/2016/06/french-aircraft-crew-apologise-for-disturbance/

 

Never knew you were a pilot, I shall call you captain from now on heh. ;)

 

Here's the livery;

 

132-marine-nationale-french-navy-dassault-falcon-50-surmar_PlanespottersNet_395302.jpg

 

I agree the event might have been a surprise but do you really think the plane endangered the ship in any way?

 

Coastguards/border patrol at sea also conduct the same passes on cargo ships, inspecting them/fulfilling environmental tasks. It's not that strange.

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A business jet, private jet, or bizjet, or simply B.J., is a jet aircraft designed for transporting small groups of people. Business jets may be adapted for other roles, such as the evacuation of casualties or express parcel deliveries, and some are used by public bodies, government officials or the armed forces.

 

The Falcon 50 Surmar is for a maritime surveillance role. I won't expect many empty seats or extra legroom when the thing flies.

 

I concur that there are business jets in use as such, even in full leather configuration for top commanders.

 

This French one just wasn't one of them, sorry.

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Never knew you were a pilot, I shall call you captain from now on heh. ;)

 

Here's the livery;

 

132-marine-nationale-french-navy-dassault-falcon-50-surmar_PlanespottersNet_395302.jpg

 

I agree the event might have been a surprise but do you really think the plane endangered the ship in any way?

 

Coastguards/border patrol at sea also conduct the same passes on cargo ships, inspecting them/fulfilling environmental tasks. It's not that strange.

 

The ship was in Bermuda territorial waters and did not have permission to fly that close to the ship which was obviously not a cargo ship. And yes, it was strange and a matter of the crew being rude guests of the British Government.

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The Falcon 50 Surmar is for a maritime surveillance role. I won't expect many empty seats or extra legroom when the thing flies.

 

I concur that there are business jets in use as such, even in full leather configuration for top commanders.

 

This French one just wasn't one of them, sorry.

 

Sorry, but the Dassault Falcon 50 is classified as a Bizjet/Private Jet by the aircraft industry no matter what the application is. These particular "Hotdogs" were escorting a French Military Communications ship which requested permission to enter Bermuda territorial waters, but they failed to include the jets in that request.

 

[updated] Government House confirmed that a French naval ship was granted diplomatic clearance for its visit to Bermuda, however said they did not receive an application for the naval jet aircraft, adding that they received a report from the Department of Civil Aviation about the aircraft and are “following this up in consultation with the Ministry of Defence in London.”

 

The Bermuda Department of Civil Aviation said they “did not issue any permission to the operators of these jets to conduct any low flying high speed flights around the island” and “did not grant permissions for them to violate the Low Flying Rule of the Air.”

 

http://bernews.com/2016/06/government-house-following-up-aviation-report/

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Haven't had a fly by like that, but when we were on the Dawn when it lost power in 2009, U. S. Coast Guard helicopters would come by occasionally and circle the ship for a bit. Under the circumstances, DW found it a little bit unsettling. :eek:

 

Just curious what DW's feeling would be if the Coast Guard did NOT circle the ship for a bit checking on the well being of the Dawn.... that would be more unsettling to think you were alone and no one was looking out for you.

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